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| Robert (Dibble) Deeble migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Great Migration (Series 2), by R. C. Anderson, vol. 2, p. 345) Join: Puritan Great Migration Project Discuss: pgm |
Biography
Robert Dibble (in records and signature, also Deeble or Deebell) was born about 1586-87, based on a reasoned calculation of his age at the time of a marriage that took place about 1611. Though a possible parentage is currently shown in this profile, his origin remains uncertain; Robert Charles Anderson’s “Great Migration” classifies it as “Unknown”, but with a qualifier: the discovery of early-17th-Century birth records at Glastonbury that may prove to be those of three of his children may associate Robert with that place.[1]
Anderson reports that Robert Dibble emigrated from Weymouth, in Dorsetshire, on the ship Recovery in 1634, and he settled at Dorchester, in Massachusetts Bay. The spouse acquired in his ca. 1611 marriage remains nameless; if the Glastonbury records noted in “Great Migration” of a father named Robert Dibbell with offspring christened John (“Johnes”, 1605), Joanna (“Johana”, 1609), and Frances (“Frauncisca”, 1611)[2] are in fact his, the 1611 union must have been his second. As with much about this man, the facts remain elusive and his biography rather fluid.
The one child known to be his, from clear records, is son Thomas, who emigrated at a later date but resided at Dorchester; the two are specifically mentioned as father and son in land grant records of December 1635 and January 1636. Thomas’s emigration, however, appears to connect him via the 1635 passenger list of the ship Marygould to a sister (“soror”) named Frances, with their ages given as 22 and 24 respectively; Frances is easily taken to be the “Frauncisca” of the 1611 baptismal record at Glastonbury -- the arithmetic supports the claim. Thomas and Frances are thus generally accepted — and listed by Anderson — as Robert’s offspring.
The case for two other possible sons is more complex (See "Alternate Dibble History" links in the "See Also" section below).
John Dibble appears in Massachusetts, though in the Springfield area, by the early 1640s, at the right time to be a member of this family — not the “Johnes” christened in 1605, as this John Dibble was born in England after this date — but very little specific evidence ties him to Robert as father. That said, Anderson was not entirely correct in a 2001 assertion, “Nothing other than identity of surname suggests a relationship” between the two: descendant Alan Dibble makes a reasoned 2013 case, citing a land transaction involving John’s known son Zachariah, that
“The best evidence [of a familial relationship] is Zachariah's Windsor land deals. That Zachariah was John's son we know. His purchase of land between Thomas Dibble and his son Israel would be just a wild coincidence had he not known them before -- clearly they were related. The sale of the property to his cousin Ebenezer is just another indication of the relationships that existed. If Zachariah was related to Thomas and his sons then John was also. Age wise he is right to have been Robert's son and Thomas' brother. It's proven that Thomas was Robert's son so the logical conclusion is that John was also.”[3]
A somewhat parallel deductive case also applies to Abraham Dibble: the birth and baptism of Abraham’s son John is recorded in Boston in 1648 (the child may have been lost in infancy, as a second christening of a son under the same name appears in 1650); the 1648 christening record reads, "John Deeble the Sonne of Abraham Deeble a Dismissed member from the Church at Dorchester”, showing that John had previously resided in precisely the place where Robert settled.[4]
Thus, although WikiTree profiles for John and Johana — but showing a Cornwall origin — that were previously linked to Robert’s have been at least for the present detached, a case could still be made for individuals by those names as his children if based on the Glastonbury records, and in John's case, on the logic applied by Alan Dibble. The profile for Abraham has been left attached, given its claim of a Dorsetshire birth and the proof of Abraham’s Dorchester residency. That John and/or Abraham could have been, say, nephews rather than sons is certainly arguable, but that there was some familial connection seems a near certainty.
A few other facts of Robert Dibble’s life in Dorchester — where he likely remained, despite some claims that he followed son Thomas (and/or John) to the Connecticut River Valley[5] — are known. Anderson reports that Robert was made a freeman on 6 May 1635; signed a petition on 7 February 1642; was selected as a bailiff on 13 February 1639; and retained that position into the year following. His name, and Thomas’s, as noted above also appear in land grant records.
Robert Dibble’s demise remains almost as vague a matter as the question of his birth, and that of the correct identification of his wife or wives, and their full array of children. The date chosen for this profile, “about 1652”, may be a too-liberal choice, though it is based on an assertion in James Savage’s “Genealogical Dictionary” that Robert was alive in Dorchester in that year. Anderson’s more conservative estimate (“After 7 February 1641[/2]… (and possibly after 1646)”), based on Dorchester records, is perhaps safer. The possibility also exists, as noted above, that Robert joined Thomas, and/or John, and/or Abraham, to the west — Anderson notes that this is claimed in one history — but no actual known record places him anywhere this side of the Atlantic other than Dorchester.
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Robert Dibble-- summary of data originally entered from gedcom:
- Husband: John Dibble
- Wife: Margery May; marriage, 1585
- Child: Robert Dibble
- Robert Deeble
- Birth: 1587; St. Germans, Cornwall, England
- OR Somerset, England
- Immigration: about 1630
- OR arrival 1635; at Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusetts
- Residence, 1635, Massachusetts
- Death: 1652, Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusetts
- OR 1666, Windsor, Hartford, Connecticut
- Probate 1666 Exeter, Devonshire
- ?from Dibblee-Perry; Author: Conlon, Alice Izelle Dibblee, p. 79
Sources
- ↑ Great Migration 1634-1635, C-F. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C-F, by Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001; https://www.americanancestors.org/DB115/i/7373/345/22175285 (subscription required)
- ↑ Post by Alan Dibble on ancestry.com, 25 Nov 2014; https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/26010334/person/26113170366/media/0e692636-c406-40ba-8664-c4c6a65942c9?_phsrc=BIy750&_phstart=successSource
- ↑ Alan Dibble, post on ancestry.com, March, 2013; https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/26010334/person/26113170366/media/f45ca4fc-2aaf-42cf-a64a-9bbb418d4100?_phsrc=BIy750&_phstart=successSource
- ↑ Baptism of son John, 1648: "John Deeble the Sonne of Abraham Deeble a Dismissed member from the Church at Dorchester being about 9 Dayes old." -- Volume 39: The Records of the First Church in Boston, 1630–1868; https://www.colonialsociety.org/node/1070
- ↑ The Pioneers of Massachusetts: A Descriptive List, Drawn from Records of the Colonies, Towns, and Churches, and Other Contemporaneous Documents, by Charles Henry Pope, Heritage Books, 2010, p. 138; https://books.google.com/books?id=k___uh7sQAkC&
- Marriage (?2) (wife's name not recorded; "c1611"; no location given): U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700, Third Supplement to Torrey´s New England Marriages Prior to 1700, p. 78; https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/3824/flhg_supptorreysnewengmarr2-0096?pid=177060&treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BIy420&_phstart=successSource (subscription required)
- Marriage (alt. record; NEHGS): "DEEBLE, Robert1 (-1652+) & ____ ____; in Eng, by 1613?; Dorchester/Windsor, CT {Dorchester Hist. 50; Fulton Anc. 519; Reg. 5:398; Pope's Pioneers 139; Warner-Harrington 172; Pepoon-Phelps 1}" -- New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015; https://www.americanancestors.org/DB1568/i/21174/450/426883602 (subscription required)
- A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England, Showing Three Generations of Those Who Came Before May, 1692, by James Savage, 1860, p. 46; https://books.google.com/books?id=918BAAAAQAAJ
See also:
- Dibblee--Perry and allied families, by Alice Izelle Dibblee Conlon, Portland, OR, A.I. Conlon, 1983, p. 79 (not currently available online as of April, 2019)
- John Dibble, Son of Robert Deeble website analysis titled "Dibble Dibble Dumpling, My Son John" described as "This page is part of the Some Dibble History website, which is principally concerned with descendants of Lieutenant Jonathan Dibble of Stamford, CT who moved to southeastern Indiana and southern Minnesota, and related families." for an interesting analysis on the possible son John of this profile along with the more extensive page Alternate Explanations of Dibble History both of which list their primary and secondary sources.
