Walter (Berkeley) de Berkeley (abt. 1136 - abt. 1193)

Possibly, Berkeley-303 ought to be merged with Barclay-2860 ?

Just a thought, gladly confess to my low level of medieval scholarship . . .  :-)

Or maybe some note with each to warn about potential confusion with the other? And maybe the question about a Barclay-Berkeley link?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Barclay "Since the eighteenth century, Barclay historians, noted for their low level in medieval scholarship,[3] have assumed the Scottish family Barclay (de Berchelai) is a branch of one of the Anglo-Norman Berkeley family of Berkeley, Gloucestershire. However, the link between the Scottish and English families is disputed ... "

Walter was almost certainly from Berkeley near Frome in Somerset, and arrived in Scotland with hi brother Robert around 1165, he was appointed to succeed Philip de Valoignes as Chamberlain to William I King of Scotland around 1171. He held estates Inverkerlor and was baron of Redcastle and Newton near Hawick; he also held property at St. Boswells and Plenmeller in Tynedale and in Galloway he received the large lordship of Urr from Uchtred, son of Fergus of Galloway, around 1170, Walter mau have married firstly a lady who was heir of Ardoyne, Aberdeenshire and secondly Eve, who may have been a daughter of Uhtred, lord of Galloway. She later married Robert de Quincy(d c 1200) Walter and Eve had one son, John who seems to have died soon after his father; he was succeeded by two daughters, one of whom, Agatha, married Humphrey, son of Theobald de Adeville, Humphrey took the Barclay surname the other daughter (unnamed) married Ingram Balliol, though which marriage the Balliols inherited Urr and Inverkeilor, Walter Barclay died around 1193, K,Stringer, 'Walter of Berkeley'. ODNB, v, 392;

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From the clan Barclay wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia,org/wiki/Clan_Barclay

Since the eighteenth century, Barclay historians, noted for their low level in Medieval Scholarship have assumed the Scottish family Barclay (de Berchelai) is a branch of the Angl0-Norman Berkeley family of Berkeley, Gloucestershire. However the link between the Scottish and English families is disputed. One theory of the Barclay origin, put forth by the historian G.W.S.Barrow, points to the small village of Berkley in Somerset which in 1086 belonged to Robert Arundel whos main tenant was a Robert , Aundel's manores included Cary Fitzpaine near Castle Cary , Cary Fitzpaine seems to be held by the tenant Robert as well. At the same time as Henry Lovel of Castle Cary, there appears the name of Godfrey de Arundel and Robert and Walter de Berkeley.

Sir Walter de Berkeley was Chamberlain of Scotland and SIr David Barclay was a close associate of Robert the Bruce, took part in the Wars of Scottish Independence and was present at most of his battles, most notably the Battle of Methven where he was captured.

References The Kingdom of the Scots, p. 331-334

Way,George and Squire, Romily.

Collins Scottish Clan and Family Encyclopedia (Foreward by The Rt Hon. The Earl of Elgin, Convenor.

The Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs punlished in 1994 p. 72-73

Clan Barclay: official site.

The Misty origins of the Barclays baronage. co. uk

The Earlier House of Berkeley: A Revised History Foundations, 9: 47-70.

The First Berkeleys in Scotland. The Scottish Genealogist. LXIV (3): 83-9 Barclay, T (2018)

The Origin of the Scottish Barclays: Part 1. The Scottish Geanologist. LXV (1) 12-25.

Doc 1/6/164 King William to the church of Inverkeilor and to Master Henry _persona_of that church; he has granted an by this charter established the remission of_grescan_ (pasture tribute ?) made to them by Walter of Berkeley.

Doc 1/6/206 King William to Arbroath Abbey; he eas granted and by his charter confirmed the church of Inverkeilor as the charter of Walter de Berkeley bears witness.

Doc 3/83/1 Walter of Berkeley has remitted to the church of St Mo-Chonoc of Inverkeilor and to Master Henry persona of said church and King's clerk, the grescan (pasture tribute'? ) and every other service which the land of the church of Inverkeilor.

Doc 3/83/2 Walter de Berkeley chamberlain to the King of Scotland, has given, granted and by his charter established, to Arbroath Abbey the church of Inverkeilor with all its just pertinents, in free, pure and perpetual aims.

https://www.baronage.co.uk/bphth-02/moa-07ahtm1>:

John de Berkeley had an eldest son, Sir Walter de Berkeley who married Eva dtr of Ughtred of Galloway by Gunnilda of Allerdale (grand daughter of Gospatrick, Earl of Northumberland. At this time there appear to be several Berkeley's well establishes all of which would be sons or nephews of John de Berkeley, Various charters give their names as Walter, William, Humphrey, Robert, Theobald and Richard, and the first two of theses held the office of Great Chamberlain of Scotland

Source <The Scottish Nation: Or The Surnames, Families, Literature.,,, Partie 1>Par William Anderson; 'Barclay, the same name as the English Berkeley, who were originally descended from Roger de Berkeley who is said to have come over with Duke William , and according to the custom of the time, assumed his surname from Berkeley Castle in Gloucestershire, the place of his residence and possessions. During the twelfth-century a branch of this family settled in Scotland and in 1165 we find Walter de Berkeley a chamberlain of the kingdom

209 Father is also a sibling (Berkeley-303,Berkeley-469)

Berkeley-332 and Berkeley-303 appear to represent the same person because: country is wrong, but the year's the same. "Dewalter" had been attached to Thomas Berkeley-20, who was born bout 1250. I think these profiles were intended to be for the same person. Please merge if you agree. Thanks.