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Latest comment: 21 days ago by Multichill in topic Erfgoedstatus
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Painting oddity

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Hi, hope you're having a good holiday break! I've just come across Portrait of a Gentleman (Q118984667) is described at [1], which is where your bot imported it from, but the V&A website says different at [2] - which agrees with the label on display next to it. Any ideas what's happened here? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:20, 27 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Q137179520

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Hello Multichill, noticing this edit, I was wondering, if this file would be an option to replace it and in the meantime labelling the shelter or orphanage for less fortunate children in Amsterdam (1828–1940) here. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 05:23, 30 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

infobox-missing-commons-category

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Hi! Could you please take a look at the job infobox-missing-commons-category of User:BotMultichillT? If I understand https://k8s-status.toolforge.org/namespaces/tool-multichill/ correctly, this job has been running since around 00:00 CET on 21 December – without making a single edit since then. I guess it’s stuck. Maybe it doesn’t handle tens of thousands of subcategories well? —Tacsipacsi (talk) 14:49, 2 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Tacsipacsi: looks like some other jobs got stuck consuming all the CPU and/or memory making it impossible to start new jobs. Killed a bunch of them and now the bot came alive here.
That job won't work because the bot doesn't handle blocks that well (disabled in October). I'm not feeling my work is appreciated in Wikimedia Commons so I'm barely active. Multichill (talk) 15:26, 2 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the restart! I was confused why a Commons block affects the bot running on Wikidata, but now I see in the source code that it tries to null-edit category pages, and that’s probably what fails. (My theory is supported by the fact that this one edit went through, then I manually purged the connected category a few hours later, making this second edit going through. Of course, using manual purges and one edit per hour, working through the backlog would take five and a half years, even without accounting for new categories appearing in the backlog…)
I see two options to work this around:
  • Wrap the purges in try-except blocks; after all, the purge is not crucial part of the task (in theory, it wouldn’t be necessary at all – maybe this could even be fixed easily in Wikibase; apparently it doesn’t purge all caches it should). Of course, this means that until the pages actually disappear from the category, the bot will iterate through them again and again.
  • Forget about Commons, and use SPARQL to query the backlog:
    SELECT ?item ?article
    WHERE {
      ?article schema:about ?item; schema:isPartOf <https://commons.wikimedia.org/>.
      MINUS { ?item wdt:P373 []. }
      FILTER (STRSTARTS(STR(?article), 'https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:')).
    }
    LIMIT 100
    
    Try it!
    However, this is currently a bit slow, and could get even slower as the backlog gets smaller (the probability of the first filter finding pages that match the other two filters gets lower and lower).
So neither of the options are great; but I hope you can implement one of them, as I appreciate your work, and apparently so does the Wikidata community (since the bot is not blocked over here). Actually, I stumbled upon this while working on Wikipedia, not Commons itself, so the bot could also help communities other than the Commons one. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 18:52, 2 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Please do not remove information

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Please do not remove information. I added "point in time", like discussed on Wikidata talk:WikiProject sum of all paintings. Thanks, Yann (talk) 20:59, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

If these should not be in collection, then a warning should be given. So far it works without a warning. Yann (talk) 21:02, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings#WD:SOAP_is_being_killed stop acting like a jerk. Multichill (talk) 22:10, 2 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Erfgoedstatus

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Hoi @Multichill, wat betreft https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2638520&oldid=prev&diff=2462399815&diffmode=source: op talloze andere items zie ik dat ook staan. Bovendien is dat gekoppeld aan Wikipedia. Waarom mag die eigenschap overal gebruikt worden, behalve hier? Met vriendelijke groet, Mondo (talk) 20:24, 10 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Omdat het geen rijksmonument is. Delen wel zoals bijvoorbeeld Administratiegebouw BG, Amsterdam (Q17302660) en die hangen onder het complex Q18772262. Q18772262 en Q2638520 zouden wellicht kunnen worden samengevoegd, maar dat loopt spaak op Commons met C:Category:Binnengasthuis, Amsterdam en c:Category:Binnengasthuis (monumentcomplex). Moet ik op een rustig moment nog eens uitzoeken.
Rijksmonumenten moeten altijd Rijksmonument ID (P359) hebben anders klopt er iets niet. Dat is, zoals je ziet, soms een hele puzzel. Multichill (talk) 20:33, 10 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Ik ging er vanuit dat het een rijksmonument was, gebaseerd op de informatie in het Nederlandstalige artikel, maar die informatie moet dan kennelijk worden aangepast. Bedankt voor je snelle en inzichtelijke reactie. 🙂 Mondo (talk) 20:36, 10 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Het is soms wel wat gepiepel om het allemaal gelijk te krijgen en lukt soms ook niet. Neem bijvoorbeeld:
In Wikipedia zit dat allemaal in een artikel, hier in meerdere items. Multichill (talk) 20:40, 10 February 2026 (UTC)Reply