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Charles Brütsch
[edit]Could you check the VIAF of Charles Brütsch (Q110215050): conflation - don't use? It seems conflated, and probably the GND should be moved elsewhere and a new one should be created. Thanks, --Epìdosis 09:33, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
- This conflated item has been created in 2021 by Reinheitsgebot. It includes at least two authors:
- 1905-1971: Charles Brütsch (Q136969629): Swiss theologian (1905-1971)
- 1907-1954: Charles Brütsch (Q137114744): Swiss journalist and poet (1907-1954)
- Two more hits:
- fl. 1941: Charles Brütsch-Gurini, Zürich 4, Stüdliweg 4 (GND 126239703); could be the parson
- 1907-1990: unknown author; possibly incorrect year of death
- We have to wait till User:Thomas Kerboul (BGE) is back to check IdRef 058596992. --Kolja21 (talk) 10:21, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
- I corrected https://www.idref.fr/058596992 to match Charles Brütsch (Q136969629): Swiss theologian (1905-1971); according to his own dissertation and several other sources (1, 2) he was born in Nîmes, not Buch. I have created https://www.idref.fr/295143177 for Charles Brütsch (Q137114744): Swiss journalist and poet (1907-1954). I am unable to tell if either is the editor of Parlamentarische Logik, Taktik und Rhetorik. --Thomas Kerboul (BGE) (talk) 13:50, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking into it. I've corrected GND 1120360501 accordingly. Parlamentarische Logik, Taktik und Rhetorik is part of the series Schriften zur Lebensweisheit (DNB 580080447) so it could be the theologian but I've found no proof. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:24, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- I corrected https://www.idref.fr/058596992 to match Charles Brütsch (Q136969629): Swiss theologian (1905-1971); according to his own dissertation and several other sources (1, 2) he was born in Nîmes, not Buch. I have created https://www.idref.fr/295143177 for Charles Brütsch (Q137114744): Swiss journalist and poet (1907-1954). I am unable to tell if either is the editor of Parlamentarische Logik, Taktik und Rhetorik. --Thomas Kerboul (BGE) (talk) 13:50, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Asterisks
[edit]What should we do with these Tp6 masterpieces created by DE-7?
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1157573118 * * *
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1157462820 ***
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1157466516 ****
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1157837913 *****
Found through https://qlever.dev/wikidata/430NLF (list of Tp6 created by DE-7 and not used in Wikidata, 69270 results as of now) :) --Epìdosis 12:58, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, these are the GNDs the Göttingen State and University Library is famous for. I would ignore them for now. If they apply to one person, I can individualize them, but they’re often ambiguous. GND 1157573118 e.g., is used for different authors:
- Examen d'une lettre ecrite par le Sieur Ernest Ruth d'Ans ... a Monsieur Michael Loefs ..., alors connu sous le nom de Pere Cyprien de Brusselles / Par Monsieur * * * a Monsieur de * * * a * * * (1697)
- Sr. Luillier Reise nach Ost-Indien aus dem französ. übersezt durch M.V. (2. Aufl., 1709)
- Ein Spaziergang von der Kaiser-Wilhelm-Brücke bis zur Weltausstellung (1889)
- --Kolja21 (talk) 19:01, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Ozerov
[edit]The only connected work of https://d-nb.info/gnd/1055246932 seems to point Ozerov Ivan Khristoforovich (Q4332116): Russian economist (1869-1942), and I find no homonyms in the dates 1640-1717. Could you check? Thanks, --Epìdosis 16:00, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- DE-7. No comment. Created for:
- Za čto my boremsja? / Otkryrki I. Ch. Ozerova (Moskva 1915)
- I have corrected the error and reported the duplicate. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:19, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Coraboeuf
[edit]Similar strange case: https://prometheus.lmu.de/gnd/105525515X has works pointing to Jean Baptiste Corabœuf (Q3170533): French geographer, despite the strange dates 1661-1741 in https://d-nb.info/gnd/105525515X. Could you check? Thanks, --Epìdosis 16:03, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- DE-7 without citation created for:
- Mémoire sur les opérations géodésiques des Pyrénées et la comparaison du niveau des deux mers / ... Coraboeuf (Paris 1831)
- I have no idea why his name was written "Čoraboeuf" and where the incorrect vital data came from.
Done --Kolja21 (talk) 19:44, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Hotman
[edit]https://d-nb.info/gnd/1055140476 (1803-1873) in https://prometheus.lmu.de/gnd/1055140476 has only publications before he was born; cf. Antoine Hotman (Q2854060): French advocate and writer. Thanks, --Epìdosis 06:31, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
Done Thanks. Again DE-7 without citation. This kind of errors should not happen. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:40, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
Galli da Bibbiena
[edit]https://d-nb.info/gnd/1055475966 again evidently wrong dates (1657-1743), he is Giuseppe Galli da Bibbiena (Q872778): Italian artist (1696-1757) but they took the dates of the father Ferdinando Galli-Bibiena (Q701319): Italian painter (1657-1743). Thanks, --Epìdosis 22:25, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
- P.S. I am now experimenting this federated query: https://w.wiki/KHSE (GND persons born in Italy and absent in Wikidata); FYI @Thomas Kerboul (BGE): maybe you can adapt it for some purpose. Buona notte da Napoli, Epìdosis 22:35, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
Done Corrected and reported the duplicate. Thanks for the query (4,545 results) & enjoy Naples. --Kolja21 (talk) 01:23, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
Comma between surname and name
[edit]I started working on https://w.wiki/KeR7 considering meta:Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2026; I found https://d-nb.info/gnd/1376941260 (= Q12107512: no description) without a comma between surname and name; is it worth reporting? Thanks, --Epìdosis 11:03, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- The field "Persönlicher Name" was intentionally selected by the Austrian National Library (instead of "Nachname", "Vornamen"). Therefore, it is not considered an error, despite the fact that most librarians would handle it differently. Слава Україні! --Kolja21 (talk) 11:19, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- OK, thanks! Yes, in fact it seemed intentional. Epìdosis 11:20, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- BTW, the two updated federated queries I am using to find GND IDs of Ukrainian people not yet in Wikidata are https://w.wiki/Kiso (based on the presence of vyč in the name) and https://qlever.dev/wikidata/N03jwL (based on the country code XA-UA). Epìdosis 11:06, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- OK, thanks! Yes, in fact it seemed intentional. Epìdosis 11:20, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Heiss
[edit]https://d-nb.info/gnd/1038874726 seemingly was born in 1809 and died in 1811, probably these are activity dates. Thanks! --Epìdosis 09:38, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- Of course you're right. Kallías (Q108730240) cites as source:
- Heiß, ... [Bibliographie]. Erschienen in: Grundriss zur Geschichte der deutschen Dichtung aus den Quellen (Q19209516) : aus den Quellen. - 11,2 = Buch 8, Abt. 4 (Drama und Theater). Vom Weltfrieden bis zur französischen Revolution 1830. - 11,II. 2.Aufl. 1953. Seite 188-189.
Done It's a list of his performances, without any biographical information. I corrected the GND and created Heiß (Q138876465): no description. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:05, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
Keine Dubletten-Warnung mehr bei GND ID (P227)?
[edit]Hallo @Kolja21, kann es sein, dass seit Kurzem nicht mehr gewarnt wird (mit einem Ausrufezeichen), wenn ich eine bereits in einem anderem Item vorhandene GND eintrage? Danke und viele Grüße: Ronald Weiss (talk) 12:38, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Ja leider. Das ist mir auch schon aufgefallen. Ich vermute, das System ist überlastet. --Kolja21 (talk) 12:39, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- I also fear the same, since the property has many millions of values; although I remember WMDE was working on a better system to check constraints, so maybe it will be fixed in the next months. Epìdosis 12:49, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
Wrong dates - last digit missing
[edit]Hi! With https://qlever.dev/wikidata/AJ8z48 I have discovered some dates of birth from GND which seem clearly wrong:
- Ernst Maurer (Q137317589) Ernst Maurer 0188-01-01T00:00:00Z
Done Born 1899 (HathiTrust). @Thomas Kerboul (BGE): IdRef missing: https://www.sudoc.fr/06385208X --Kolja21 (talk) 19:56, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- Julia Klemm (Q136854365) Julia Klemm 0193-01-01T00:00:00Z
Done Born 1983 (Diss.). --Kolja21 (talk) 19:56, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- Sebastian Rubach (Q137336779) Sebastian Rubach 0194-01-01T00:00:00Z
Done Unknown. "Der Lebenslauf ist in der Online-Version aus Gründen des Datenschutzes nicht enthalten" (Diss. 2020). --Kolja21 (talk) 20:34, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- Bettina Marugg (Q138999586) Bettina Marugg 0196-01-01T00:00:00Z
Done Born 1960 (helveticarchives.ch). --Kolja21 (talk) 21:30, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- Nobuo Mikami (Q139061184) Nobuo Mikami 0197-01-01T00:00:00Z
Done Born 1927 (NDL). --Kolja21 (talk) 21:43, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- Bilge Albayrak (Q136857624) Bilge Albayrak 0198-01-01T00:00:00Z
Done Unknown. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:52, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- Domenico Prudenzano (Q137319395) Domenico Prudenzano 0198-01-01T00:00:00Z
Done Unknown. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:58, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- Dario Fußmann (Q136974471) Dario Fußmann 0199-01-01T00:00:00Z
Done Born 1990 (Diss.). --Kolja21 (talk) 22:05, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- Suitbert Koch (Q137313014) Suitbert Koch 0199-01-01T00:00:00Z
Done Unknown (Diss. 1985). --Kolja21 (talk) 22:33, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
It seems like the final X is missing ... could you have a look? Thanks! --Epìdosis 15:10, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- That’s what I thought at first, too. But these are human (unpredictable) not technical errors. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:57, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
Hans Rudolph
[edit]Could you find the GND of the Hans Rudolph author of Deutschsprachiger Arbeitskreis für Krankenhaushygiene? Cf. deprecated VIAF in Hans Rudolph (Q1582148): German historian of antiquity (1907-1980). Thanks! --Epìdosis 15:16, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
Done I created Hans Rudolph (Q139593177): Dr. med.; II. Chirurgische Klinik, Diakoniekrankenhaus, Germany (fl. 1988) = GND 1397846968. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:32, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
- PS: Possible doctoral thesis: Ergebnisse der chirurgischen Behandlung von 121 Patienten ... Berlin, F. U., Med. F., Diss. v. 2. Juni 1966. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:36, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
Hi Kolja, könntest du 127807772 auf den Buchstaben Ż korrigieren? Ẓ gibt's im Polnischen nicht. Und ggf. Metadaten der Charité ergänzen? --Printstream (talk) 13:17, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- Beim Bruder 127807764 möglichst auch --Printstream (talk) 13:29, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- Der DNB-Server ist - mal wieder - offline. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:07, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
Done Beide Datensätze korrigiert und ergänzt. --Kolja21 (talk) 02:16, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
- Der DNB-Server ist - mal wieder - offline. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:07, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
GND gender mismatches
[edit]Hi! I think you have already seen Property talk:P227/Gender mismatches :) if you want to work on it and the relatively big size of the page is problematic, feel free to split it in subpages as you prefer. FYI @Emu, Silewe, Wurgl, Jneubert: and if you know others potentially interested in it, you can inform them. Of course in the future I can try to produce similar mismatches tables for other data; gender is the easiest, but also for other data it should be relatively easy. --Epìdosis 15:53, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. A very helpful list. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:57, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
Goria GND
[edit]Should Alexandre Goria (Q4720848): French pianist and composer (1823-1860) be reported? Thanks, --Epìdosis 21:06, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- That's a question for the German Music Archive (Q27901). "Adolf Goria" is not listed here as a pseudonym. Note: "Mit diesem Vornamen nur bei Pazdirek verzeichnet. In den Ausgaben meist nur als Goria bezeichnet. Es ist möglich, dass hier eine Verwechslung vorliegt und es sich tatsächlich um Alexandre Goria handelt." I added a link at GND 115628517. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:03, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- PS: Looking at NKČR-AUT imho we shoud restore Q55898461 and link the two items with said to be the same as (P460). @Vojtěch Dostál: What do you think? --Kolja21 (talk) 23:16, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- Alexandre Goria (1823-1860) vs. Brief von Adolf Goria an Choudens, 1866 six years after the death of Alexandre Goria. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:22, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- PS: Looking at NKČR-AUT imho we shoud restore Q55898461 and link the two items with said to be the same as (P460). @Vojtěch Dostál: What do you think? --Kolja21 (talk) 23:16, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
Der User stört derzeit empfindlich, indem der alle Namensansetzungen außer "mul" löscht. Das beeinträchtigt weiter nachhaltig den Daten-Export in Richtung FactGrid. Ist das hier in wd eine neue Politik oder macht er das "nur so"? Weist Du, wer der richtige Ansprechpartner wäre, um das zu unterbinden?--Kresspahl (talk) 06:53, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
- Hallo Kresspahl, es war angedacht, alle Namensansetzungen außer "mul" zu löschen, aber das Projekt wurde, soweit ich weiß, gestoppt. Am besten fragst du auf Wikidata:Forum nach. @Emu: Weiß du, wo die Diskussionen zu dem Thema stattfanden? --Kolja21 (talk) 09:11, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
- Im Ergebnis wäre die dirigistische Vernichtung von Namensvarianten und -ansetzungen ein herber Wissenverlust und ein eklatanter Eingriff in die Wissenschaftsfreiheit hier... Unglaublich, das man überhaupt auf so eine Idee kommen kann.--Kresspahl (talk) 11:16, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
- Die Namensvarianten sind von "mul" nicht betroffen. Die sollen nicht gelöscht werden. Es geht ausschließlich um redundante Angaben. --Kolja21 (talk) 11:25, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
- PS: "... alle Namensansetzungen außer 'mul' zu löschen", war falsch ausgedrückt. --Kolja21 (talk) 11:26, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
- Die Namensvarianten sind von "mul" nicht betroffen. Die sollen nicht gelöscht werden. Es geht ausschließlich um redundante Angaben. --Kolja21 (talk) 11:25, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Kolja21 Nicht wirklich, leider. Wenn ich mich richtig erinnere, wurde trotz der gefühlt unendlichen Vorbereitungszeit auf
mulmanches nicht bedacht. Aber im Detail weiß ich es nicht. --Emu (talk) 12:09, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
- Im Ergebnis wäre die dirigistische Vernichtung von Namensvarianten und -ansetzungen ein herber Wissenverlust und ein eklatanter Eingriff in die Wissenschaftsfreiheit hier... Unglaublich, das man überhaupt auf so eine Idee kommen kann.--Kresspahl (talk) 11:16, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
doppelte Geschlechtsangabe
[edit]Hallo Kolja21, bei der Abarbeitung von "Gender mismatches" fällt mir gerade bei den japanischen Personen auf, dass dort sowohl das Geschlecht männlich, als auch weiblich eingetragen ist. z.B. Yoshio Hishikawa (Q11620180) = GND 1235797864. Hast Du dafür eine Erklärung? Ich traue mich bei diesen Datensätzen jetzt nicht irgendetwas zu löschen... Vielen Dank und Grüße, Silke (talk) 14:00, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- Hallo Silke, ich vermute, im Fall von Yoshio Hishikawa (DE-1) war sich jemand unsicher, und hat statt "unbekannt" (korrekt) "Mann" und "Frau" angeklickt. Es kann sich aber auch um einen Einspielungsfehler handeln. Im DNB-Katalog wird nur "männlich" angezeigt. Leider wieder so ein Datensatz, der sich nicht über das Webformular korrigieren lässt:
- korrektes Unterfeld (z.B. '$g') fehlt in 'Andere Namen - Vornamen/Nachname' vor '$T01'
- Da bleibt nur der langwierige Weg über de:WP:GND/F. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:32, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- Vielen Dank für Deine Einschätzung. Na, dann werde ich einmal fleissig melden, --Silke (talk) 17:35, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
