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Cinémathèque royale de Belgique

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La Cinémathèque royale de Belgique est une institution fédérale belge, pas communale ou régionale.

En conséquence, arrêtez d'imposer votre version.


En vous remerciant,

Salutations, 94.109.120.176 17:46, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

It is not a Federal institution but a independent one, it's not affiliated with the government. It get subsidies from the federal government because it is a bilingual institution. But for the rest the government has nothing to do with it. Jhowie Nitnek 17:49, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Please have a look into the legal documents it doesn't refence the federal government, please stop the vandalism
http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_tsv/tsv_rech.pl?language=nl&btw=0406613706&liste=Liste Jhowie Nitnek 18:01, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Vous vous trompez : il s'agit d'une institution fédérale comme les musées fédéraux.
De surcroît, une autre cinémathèque est située également à Bruxelles, la Cinémathèque de la Communauté française Wallonie-Bruxelles.

Toro Osborne

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Hi:

I see you removed well referenced instances statements for several Toros in Wikidata. I see the point of adding instance as Osborne bull (Q302741) but I think it is not appropriate to remove the previous statements which express exactly the source of the original authority. Could I ask you to restore the removed statements, please? —Ismael Olea (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I think the way they where originally tagged was flawed. This is the reason I removed it. Jhowie Nitnek 04:26, 20 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
As said, those are the statements with references and from a recognized authority. I could agree the instanced class can be enhanced but you can do it without removing anything. Also, you can even increase the new values rank if find appropriate. So, please, restore the removed statements. —Ismael Olea (talk) 18:56, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Public Interest Organizations (Q3356161)

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Hey @JhowieNitnek, Het ding is Public Interest Organizations (Q3356161) wordt gebruikt door govdirectory.Wikidata:WikiProject Govdirectory/Belgium. En het staat ook zo vermeld op de website van de FOD BASO. Als je een beter model weet dan hoor ik het graag.

Alvast bedankt. RVA2869 (talk) 07:40, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Regenbooghuizen

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Why did you decide to merge Q59202257 with the more general Q6458277? Azertus (talk) 14:10, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Incorrect use of subclass of (P279)

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Hello –

This edit to "royal burgh" (Q2928458) was in error. Because subclass of (P279) is transitive (for example, see this tree of parent classes), such errors lead to numerous false inferences, such as royal burgh (Q2928458)subclass of (P279)award (Q618779) Before you use the properties instance of (P31) and subclass of (P279), please be familiar with Help:Basic membership properties, and look at the value item in your statement to be sure it's the one you intend. (In particular, note that "A" is only a subclass of "B" if all instances of "A" are also instances of "B".) There is often another property that can accurately express the relationship you had in mind; in this case, instance of (P31) works better. You can search through available properties here. Thanks! Swpb (talk) 14:56, 21 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

WikiProject Public Art

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Hoi @JhowieNitnek, van harte welkom om je ook aan te sluiten bij Wikidata's WikiProject Public Art. Daar vind je ook documentatie over de manier waarop we dergelijke objecten modelleren hier op Wikidata.

Zou je waar mogelijk zoveel mogelijk bronnen willen toevoegen aan je bewerkingen? Dat maakt Wikidata een stuk meer verifieerbaar en is ook een policy hier. Ik denk er zelf ook niet altijd aan maar probeer het wel zoveel mogelijk te doen. Er zijn best veel databases met kunst in de publieke ruimte waarnaar verwezen kan worden. Hartelijke groet en veel plezier gewenst met Wikidata bewerken, Spinster 💬 22:52, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

@JhowieNitnek, ik heb de indruk dat een vriendelijke handreiking niet geholpen heeft, dus ik ga strenger worden. Ik verzoek je met grote drang om het statement genre (P136)public art (Q557141) niet meer te verwijderen. Dat statement is een afspraak binnen WikiProject Public Art om het mogelijk te maken om breed hergebruik van data over kunst in de publieke ruimte mogelijk te maken, met uniforme data modellering. Als je van mening bent dat public art (Q557141) geen genre is, dan verwijs ik je graag naar de entry van public art in de in de kunstwereld standaard gebruikte Art & Architecture Thesaurus van het Getty Institute.
Daarnaast heb ik ook gezien dat je statements overschrijft met gegevens die niet in een vermelde bron staan (voorbeeld: deze bron geeft 100% expliciet aan dat dit een kunstwerk in de publieke ruimte is maar jouw vervangende concept commemorative statue (Q107194468) staat helemaal nergens op die pagina vermeld). Wikidata is een database met verifieerbare data en daar hoort niet bij dat je zelf maar verzint wat in een bron staat. Als je volhardt in dit soort acties zal ik om bemiddeling gaan vragen, want dit is disruptief bij werk dat al jaren door deze community gedaan wordt. Spinster 💬 17:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Spinster, sorry ik had uw eerdere bericht gemist. Ik zal in de toekomst rekening houden met uw opmerking. Nog is sorry voor de problemen die ik heb veroorzaakt. Jhowie Nitnek 19:53, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Musée du cinéma de Bruxelles

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Bonjour, le musée du cinéma de Bruxelles (rebaptisé « Cinematek » en 2009) a depuis toujours (1962) été la vitrine de la Cinémathèque royale de Belgique. Meilleures salutations, 94.108.10.112 21:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Flanders (Q234)

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Hi@JhowieNitnek,

What is your reasoning for this edit?1 & 2 RVA2869 (talk) 15:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi @RVA2869,
Legually Flanders doesn't exist. Flemish Region and Flemish Community are separate entities who have the smae Goverment but there isn't a thing called Flanders except the historical region or ethnic region Jhowie Nitnek 15:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Scottish geolocatable items

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Please do not remove located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) values pointing to Scottish Council Areas, from Scottish geolocatable items, as you did here - diff. Scottish Councils are the extant administrative territorial entities in Scotland; Scottish parishes were abolished in 1975. All Scottish geolocatable items have a P131 pointer to the council area, and most tools for maintaining Scottish geolocatable items have a dependency on this sort of P131 value. It follows that removing such values is both wrong and disruptive. thx. Tagishsimon --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:57, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi,
Thank you for correcting my mistake I will not do it again. Jhowie Nitnek 09:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

commons:Category:Lennekemarekapel naar commons:Category:Chapel of Marie la Misérable)

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Beste jHowieNitnek, ik kan de hernoeming van de commonscategorie niet appreciëren. Het is een regelrechte bijdrage tot de verfransing van Brussel. Aangezien het gebouw er staat van ver voor de verfransing begon en toen iedereen hier nog Brabants sprak is Lenneke Marekapel de originele benaming. Ik zou het zeer appreciëren mocht je stoppen met Nederlandse benamingen te verfransen. Dat ligt zeer gevoelig. Ik ga ervanuit dat je ook niet gaat beginnen met onderwerpen uit oost-Oekraïene in het Russisch te vertalen. (Alhoewel ik zeker ben dat ook dat gebeurt door anderen). Groeten uit Brussel. SvenDK (talk) 05:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Beste, dit is de Engelse naam die op een informatiebord staat bij de kapel. Ik heb voor een neutrale Engelstalige naam hernoemd juist om deze discussie te voorkomen Jhowie Nitnek 14:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@SvenDK Jhowie Nitnek 14:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ik denk niet dat zoiets de bedoeling kan zijn. Als je dit systematisch wil doen, denk ik dat het best is om daar eerst een discussie te hebben met moderatoren en bredere wiki gemeenschap. We gaan toch niet alles wat meertalig is vertalen naar het Engels. Dan kan je dadelijk beginnen met Ierse, Schotse, Welshse, Baskische, bretoense, Zwitserse, Friese en vele andere dingen in het Engels zetten. Laat de dingen gewoon zoals ze zijn. SvenDK (talk) 09:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@SvenDK Ik denk dat je gelijk hebt dat er een bredere discussie over dit onderwerp gevoerd moet worden. Het is belangrijk dat we verschillende perspectieven en meningen in overweging nemen om tot een goed geïnformeerde en evenwichtige conclusie te komen. Echter, het direct aanvallen en beledigen van mij is niet de juiste aanpak.
Respectvol met elkaar omgaan is essentieel, vooral in een gemeenschap zoals die van Wikimedians. We moeten streven naar een constructieve dialoog waarin iedereen zich gehoord en gewaardeerd voelt. Daarom zou ik het op prijs stellen als je in de toekomst meer respect toont tegenover andere Wikimedians. Samen kunnen we op een positieve manier bijdragen aan de groei en verbetering van onze gemeenschap. Jhowie Nitnek 10:08, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Q239 vs. Q111901161

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Online translation: Please explain the difference between City of Brussels (Q239) and Brussels (Q111901161), which one is bigger? What is their relationship? Ыфь77 (talk) 16:00, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Ыфь77 City of Brussels is the administrative area while Brussels is the physical location Jhowie Nitnek 16:38, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Q239 = physical location? Ыфь77 (talk) 17:01, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Ыфь77 No Q239 is a administrative area while Q111901161 is a physical location. Administrative areas are human constructs for governance, while physical locations are defined by their spatial existence. Jhowie Nitnek 17:03, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Online translation: How many communes are included in Q239 and how many in Q111901161? Ыфь77 (talk) 17:03, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
In Q239 is while Q111901161 is undetermand as it depends on what you see as Brussels and what not. Is Brussels just the City of Brussels, the Brussels-Capital Region or the metropolitan. Physical location is less defiend. Jhowie Nitnek 17:05, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Online translation: I'm sorry, but I didn't understand both of the last answers. Could you reformulate them. Otherwise, the war of edits will continue. Ыфь77 (talk) 17:12, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Fusion de Charnoy (Q63047584) et Charleroi (Q18290864)

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Bonjour,

Vous avez fusionné Charnoy et Charleroi. Cette fusion n'était pas à faire, car les deux éléments se suivent mais ne se correspondent pas. Pourquoi ne pas avoir d'abord consulté les créateurs des deux éléments ?

Je vous demande de défaire cette fusion.

Bien à vous. Jmh2o (talk) 18:24, 10 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Merci. --Jmh2o (talk) 10:39, 11 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

What is a multi-sports competition?

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I happened to come across the data objects international multi-sport event (Q135740745), international multi-sports competition (Q135740984) and recurring international multi-sports competition (Q135741070), which you created. I'm surprised by the term multi-sports competition. Could you please explain this term to me? --Gymnicus (talk) 22:46, 28 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Mini Wikimedia Hackathon

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Hoi, we organiseren weer een Mini Wikimedia Hackathon in Utrecht(nl) op 25 oktober. Misschien wat voor jouw? Het is kleinschalig, technisch georiënteerd en in-person. Als dit bij jou past kan je je aanmelden via de evenement pagina Daanvr (talk) 17:43, 13 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hoi @Daanvr,
Ik zou graag meedoen maar jammer genoeg zit ik in het buitenland tot het einde van het jaar. Jhowie Nitnek 17:48, 13 October 2025 (UTC) Jhowie Nitnek 17:48, 13 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hopelijk ben je intussen terug! In maart organiseren we de Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026 op 13-14 maart in Arnhem. Het is een tweedaagse, technisch georiënteerde hackathon met Wikimedianen uit de regio. Registratie sluit half januari of eerder als het vol is. Daanvr (talk) 10:40, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Translations of thoroughfares

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Hi Jhowie, and Merry Christmas!

Just a kind reminder that thoroughfares (streets, avenues, boulevards, squares, lanes, quays, etc.) are generally not translated from their original language (unless the translations are "official" or WP:COMMONNAME), so please avoid adding English or German translations for Brussels streets (e.g. Bessie Coleman Street, Ingrid-Daubechies-Straße, etc.), even if such forms may appear logical or are occasionally used in the foreign press. This is not Brussels-specific, but applies across all WP projects. For Brussels items, to keep things consistent, we should therefore maintain the 'FR/NL' sequence (on Wikipedia/Wikimedia) and the 'FR - NL' sequence (on Wikidata) for all foreign languages. In the same vein, could you also clarify the difference between 'Isala Van Diest Street' that you created (and which should be 'Rue Isala Van Diest - Isala Van Dieststraat' accordingly) and the existing item with that name? You marked them as 'not to be confused', but they seem to refer to the same place. Thanks! Jason Lagos (talk) 12:54, 26 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Jason Lagos!
Both Isala van Diest Streets refer to diffirent streets, they both very close togeter and one is the official name of the street and the other the onofficial name. As for the rest I will keep it in mind!
Happy Holidays !
JhowieNitnek (talk) 13:21, 26 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the clarification, though I am still a bit confused... What is Q136736107's official name, if 'Isala Van Diest' is only an unofficial one? Does either street actually exist yet? It seems a bit odd that two streets so close together would share the same name. Jason Lagos (talk) 18:27, 26 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
A few years ago Extensa and the City of Brussels released a map with "street" names of the new neigbouhood, the names never got officialized. With the exception of Dreve du Parc and Dreve Maritime, Dreve Van Thurn und Tassis got the official namr the Dreve Anna Bosch. All the others are not in the Official Gazette.
Link to map: https://www.thebulletin.be/ceci-nest-pas-une-rue-locals-pick-surreal-street-names-new-brussels-neighbourhood
JhowieNitnek (talk) 18:50, 26 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Local names and decriptions

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Hi Jhowie,

Two small remarks/suggestions:

  • When an item has the same name in all languages, please do not delete the local variants, as you did in several places (e.g. La Pharmacie Anglaise, Athénée Robert Catteau, etc.), even if it may seem logical to only keep one name as default. This allows all versions of Wikidata to locate the item properly. I have reinstated them accordingly.
  • Please also keep descriptions as brief as possible, typically between 2-12 words. For a location, simply use "[type of location] in [subregion], [country]" (see Help:Description#Length). No need to add the neighbourhood, architect, construction date, etc. (e.g. Chalet Norvégien, Presbytery of Our Lady of Victories at the Sablon, etc.)

Thanks again! Jason Lagos (talk) 15:04, 17 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Walloon verbs

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Thanks for adding the verb ansiner (L1553055) to Wikidata! Please consider adding a verb lexeme for the Walloon equivalent of 'avoir' and then deleting the composed forms of 'ansiner' that simply use that 'avoir' verb with a participle. (For comparison the French verb manger (L309) does not have forms that contain 'avoir'.) Mahir256 (talk) 18:28, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Mahir256 thank you for the suggestion, I will do that!, should I delete the "aveur" forms then? JhowieNitnek (talk) 18:34, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
"and then deleting the composed forms of 'ansiner' that simply use that 'avoir' verb with a participle"; so yes. Mahir256 (talk) 18:36, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Dutch lexemes without senses

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Thanks for creating new Dutch lexemes! This query lists Dutch lexemes (currently over 2,000) that don't have any senses, their lexical categories, and any WNT/woordenlijst lemma IDs if they exist. You may wish to start adding meanings to these lexemes before creating new ones. (For context, I am trying to get every French lexeme to have at least one sense—and I still have over 8,000 more lexemes to do—before Wikimania in Paris in July so that I can demonstrate something with those lexemes at that event. Maybe you would be interested in trying to get the Dutch number down to zero before I get the French number to zero; you already have a head start!) Mahir256 (talk) 22:56, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Mahir256,
Thank you for the query! I definitly do that once I am finised adding all "jenever" combination lexemes like "jeneverboom" and "jeneverolie"
JhowieNitnek (talk) 07:42, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
A couple things: 1) you seemed to have missed some 'jenever' combination lexemes, and 2) once you've added senses to the lexemes listed in the query above, please consider creating new Dutch lexemes directly through Mishramilan (মিশ্রমিলন) rather than creating then and then manually adding the IDs in a separate step. (The WNT and woordenlijst are already in that tool, and the Vlaams Woordenboek will also be added to the tool once that property is created.) Mahir256 (talk) 19:17, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hi, thank you for adding it to Mishramilan, @Mahir256. I was actually waiting for the Woordenlijst Nederlandse Taal to be added, but I hadn’t realised you had already done so.
I do have a question about lexemes. Brussels Dutch (Q2668371) is a standardised dialect of Dutch, yet its spelling differs quite substantially from standard Dutch and it includes many French loanwords. If I want to add Brussels dialect lexemes, would it be better to classify them under Dutch, or should they be treated as a separate variety? For reference, its IETF language code is nl-u-sd-bebru.
JhowieNitnek (talk) 19:29, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
That's a good question; my perception would be to treat them separately since there is an intelligibility problem with standard Dutch, but what matters is to be consistent with all lexemes within that variety. (Does this affect the Vlaams Woordenboek at all, or should those all be considered Dutch words?) Mahir256 (talk) 20:31, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Some of the words might be in the Vlaams Woordenboek but a lot might not be in there. Most info about words are not in databases but in books or PDF's, an exemption might be the Woordenbank van de Nederlandse Dialecten, but I can't find a way to find ID's for a potential property.
JhowieNitnek (talk) 20:45, 16 February 2026 (UTC)Reply