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BBFC reference
reference number for a film or video game (-2012) media content rating decision on BBFC's official website
Associated itemBritish Board of Film Classification (Q861670)
Applicable "stated in" valueBBFC database (Q105296939)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainfilm (Q11424) or video game (Q7889)
Allowed values[A-Z]{3}\d{6}
ExamplePostal (Q700905)AVV252599
Manhunt 2 (Q1799879)DDM235014
Postal (Q1049783)ADM151575
Formatter URLhttps://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.bbfc.co.uk/$1
Related to country United Kingdom (Q145) (See 351 others)
See alsoBBFC rating (P2629), FVLB work ID (P8680), Australian Classification (P3156), Australian Classification ID (P8326), OFLC classification (P7327), PEGI rating (P908)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total744
Main statement8 out of 1,319 (1% complete)1.1% of uses
Qualifier50067.2% of uses
Reference23631.7% of uses
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Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8794#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Format “[A-Z]{3}\d{6}: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8794#Format, SPARQL
Type “film (Q11424), video game (Q7889): item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “film (Q11424), video game (Q7889)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8794#Type Q11424, Q7889, SPARQL
Item “BBFC rating (P2629): Items with this property should also have “BBFC rating (P2629)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8794#Item P2629, search, SPARQL
Scope is as reference (Q54828450), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8794#Scope, search (main only), SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8794#Entity types

Scope

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If it had to be created, I would propose to change its scope from main value to qualifier, and connect directly to the ratings. Make it a subproperty of rating certificate ID (P2676). Máté (talk) 12:42, 13 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

How about using it as both? @Máté: --Trade (talk) 12:47, 13 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Trade: What purpose would that serve? As an external ID, it is totally misguided. – Máté (talk) 12:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
I think it makes perfect sense to link the classification decisions with the creative works that they are classifying. It's not like we haven't done that before

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Notified participants of WikiProject Video games Thoughts? --Trade (talk) 13:03, 13 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Well, then use it as a qualifier. – Máté (talk) 13:12, 13 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
We are not supposed to use qualifiers to replace references. The only reason that the property ended up as it did is because it's more stable. --Trade (talk) 08:19, 16 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Who said anything about using it to replace references? It would replace another qualifier. References would remain intact. – Máté (talk) 10:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Moreover, BBFC reference has been depreciated. Ratings from this October on no longer have an identifier. – Máté (talk) 10:39, 16 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Máté:, several of the BBFC reference numbers added in November and before have started to die on me. Any idea why? --Trade (talk) 08:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Trade: I'll try to look it up or contact BBFC but probably it has to do with the website overhaul and the depreciation of the BBFC reference just as this property was on proposal. It would be nice if at least the redirects remained (I've already complained about the old links not working but at least the reference redirects did.) – Máté (talk) 09:41, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply