Comments on: Hijacker Working at Heathrow Airport https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html Mon, 27 Jan 2020 11:43:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: suoersnail https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html/#comment-88803 Thu, 22 May 2008 07:50:31 +0000 https://www.schneier.com/hijacker_workin/#comment-88803 Nothing surprosing here.

Large UK companies have been outsourcing and subcontracting to dubious employment agencies for years in order to avoid thier legal obligations as employers.

Its not surprisning they dont know who “works” for them.

Not as funny as the illegal immagrants paid to clean the Home Office thouugh.

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By: Thomas https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html/#comment-88802 Wed, 21 May 2008 11:38:53 +0000 https://www.schneier.com/hijacker_workin/#comment-88802 Despite all the CCTV cameras, no-fly lists, RFID passports, nail-clipper confiscation, databases and shoe-removal we can’t even keep track of ‘terrorist hijackers’ that we know about.

Security Theater: every show is sold out, and they always do an encore!

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By: Eponymous https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html/#comment-88801 Tue, 20 May 2008 14:19:19 +0000 https://www.schneier.com/hijacker_workin/#comment-88801 What makes a former terrorist potentially recidivist is not his methods, but his motives. The fact that he used a method similar to the 9/11 attacks clouds the fact that his motives were incidental and not ideologically anti-western or fanatical at all. I’d bar him from working at an airport due to his past, but otherwise leave the guy alone, he served his time. The job of security is to secure, not to stereotype.

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By: Anonymous https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html/#comment-88800 Tue, 20 May 2008 09:01:54 +0000 https://www.schneier.com/hijacker_workin/#comment-88800 I’ve worked at heathrow before, and the main (new) BA offices are close enough to the site to be considered “At Heathrow”. There are also existing offices just outside the perimeter fence, but inside the perimeter road but I don’t know what security is needed for there. It could be the BAA requirements, or just BA’s own.

I used to work at the BA Engineering base at Heathrow as a contractor and even then before 9/11 there was a minor background check to get a pass. When that was upgraded to an airside pass then a slightly more extensive check was made, but it’s still not even close to that of basic security clearance needed to work for the MOD.

But, I would still have thought being a convicted hi-jacker would not have been able to get any BAA security pass.

Would be a good place for a terrorist to get intel though….

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By: Kaukomieli https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html/#comment-88799 Tue, 20 May 2008 07:24:56 +0000 https://www.schneier.com/hijacker_workin/#comment-88799 If this was bad publicity for a company I could not avoid the feeling that a there is some serious astroturfing going on in the comment-section of this article.

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By: csrster https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html/#comment-88798 Tue, 20 May 2008 06:38:04 +0000 https://www.schneier.com/hijacker_workin/#comment-88798 This was the hijacking where, iirc, over half the “victims” (ie passengers) claimed asylum in the country they were hijacked too.

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By: Sejanus https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html/#comment-88797 Tue, 20 May 2008 06:07:19 +0000 https://www.schneier.com/hijacker_workin/#comment-88797 A stupid question: whats wrong with a hijacker working at the airport? I. e. Guys with a real hacking experience work at IT and security in specific :]

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By: Timm Murray https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html/#comment-88796 Mon, 19 May 2008 23:54:26 +0000 https://www.schneier.com/hijacker_workin/#comment-88796 “Nazamuddin Mohammidy, 34, was one of a gang of nine that threatened to blow up an internal flight in Afghanistan, along with 173 passengers and crew, unless they were granted political asylum.”

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“The men, who said they had taken enormous personal risks to organise secret schools for girls in Afghanistan, said they considered themselves to be allies of Britain in its struggle against terrorism. ”

These guys were trying to get political asylum from the Taliban, albeit in a questionable way. That’s quite a terrorist they caught, there. Next you’ll tell me I can’t fly with nail clippers.

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By: askme23 https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html/#comment-88795 Mon, 19 May 2008 23:14:29 +0000 https://www.schneier.com/hijacker_workin/#comment-88795 rats, this blog really has hit the skids. Too bad as I was startign to put thison my daily must read list.

Any suggestions for other security blogs?

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By: Davi Ottenheimer https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/hijacker_workin.html/#comment-88794 Mon, 19 May 2008 22:50:05 +0000 https://www.schneier.com/hijacker_workin/#comment-88794 Wow, you really have to read the story all the way. The guy not only served time in prison, but he was found to be part of a group seeking asylum.

I suppose motive does not appeal to some, but if a British national escaped from a foreign country by hijacking a plane to return home, he (or she) might be termed a hero and given a job anywhere they want…even at the airport.

Alas, now he only identified as a hijacker?

Here are the details I found enlightening:

“Mohammidy was jailed for 30 months for his part in the hijacking but all of the gang members later had their convictions quashed by the Court of Appeal, which decided they had been acting under duress as they fled the Taliban.

They went on to win a High Court ruling preventing the Government from deporting them.

In 2006 they issued a joint statement saying they were desperate to be allowed to work and contribute to British society.”

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