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Magic Rises (Kate Daniels, #6)
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Jul 30, 2013
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2.5 stars - Spoilers
Not impressed. I've never given an Ilona Andrews book less than 3 stars before but there was just too much WTFery in Magic Rises to rate it any higher. I loved all the earlier Kate Daniels books, they had the right balance of plot, action, romance and humour. Sadly, Magic Rises was a complete mess.
Random thoughts:
-What's what: Pack kids go loup, need medicine, loads of melodrama, Kate/Curran offered medicine and in exchange must protect pregnant shifter (Desendra), Kate and gang travel to Europe for the job, the gang wary of trap, loads of posturing from foreign packs, Curran acts like fucker, mystery monsters, Kate acts like doormat. The end.
-I hated all the focus on pack and pack politics. I'm sick of all their rubbish, the series feels more about the pack than about Kate. I miss Kate going on her solo adventures, I'm tired of her being tied to the pack and Curran.
-I was annoyed that Kate was the one who seemed to be handling all the pack bullshit instead of Curran. She was the one organising the security detail for the pregnant shifter, she was the one investigating the mystery monsters, and she was the one holding the group together. Curran left it all to Kate whilst he spent all his time flirting and getting his ego stroked by a hot young wolf princess (Lorelei). I didn't buy his silly excuses for hanging out with Lorelei - he did it because he wanted to, not because of Kate.
-I used to love Curran but after reading Magic Rises, I no longer like him. He did way too many unforgivable things — the way he treated Kate was awful.
It made no sense whatsoever that Curran didn't tell Kate that someone wanted her dead — he knew before they even got off the boat, but he still kept it from her. She was going to dangerous, foreign territory, and he didn't think Kate ought to know that someone was out to get her?! WTF?! Her life was in even more danger than she thought — how would keeping her in the dark help in any way?!
How dare Curran risk Kate's life further by not warning her of another threat! Did Curran have that little trust and faith in her? He didn't even have all the information on who hired the pirates to kill Kate until Saiman further question the pirate, so why not tell her straight away? His whole excuse at the end didn't add up.
-As soon as Curran saw Lorelei, he was all over her and that was BEFORE he even realised her involvement in Kate's assassination attempt. Curran only bribed Lorelei's uncle after he found out from Saiman that the money the pirate had was from Lorelei's country. So why was he all over her from the get go unless he genuinely wanted her?!
Curran's flirting with Lorelai was too much, actually he was basically mating with her, what with giving her food, letting her kill the animals he hunted, letting her sit next to him, standing naked next to her, going on romantic walks with her, talking about his relationship to Kate with her, and bitching about Kate. Ugh. I have no doubt that Curran enjoyed his time with her — he was probably buttering up Lorelai in case anything happened to Kate, that way he'd have a back up. The dick.
Hugh was right when he said that Curran wanted to have sex with Lorelei and that Curran must have thought about it. I don't know why Kate ignored Hugh's opinion — he was spot on about Curran.
-Not only did Curran cheat on Kate (yea, he did cheat on her in shifter terms), he humiliated her in front of EVERYONE, and then he lied about it repeatedly. I was irritated that Kate just believed Curran's lies. Why didn't she ask Curran that if he really didn't want Lorelei why the fuck was he spending so much time with her? Why didn't she question him further?
-The reason for Curran's behaviour towards Lorelei was BULLSHIT. He thought getting touchy feely with Lorelai would stop the assassination attempt but there was no guarantee of that. If the fuckers were willing to kill Kate in the first place so that Lorelai could have him then why wouldn't they decide to just finish Kate off straight away? That way Curran would be vulnerable enough for Lorelai to seduce him. None of it made sense. If he really wanted to keep Kate safe he should have told her and spent as much time with her as he could instead of leaving her all alone thus making it easier for her to be killed.
-If Curran had told Kate his nonsensical plan at the beginning, then not only would she have been more careful, she would have played along. She would still have been pissed and jealous at Curran's flirting even though she knew it wasn't real — it's not like she would been cool with seeing Curran pretending to want another women. It would have still hurt her — so her responses would have been genuine. That's why I didn't buy Curran not telling Kate his plan, him saying Kate couldn't lie and that she was worse at lying than a child was ABSOLUTE UTTER BULLSHIT.
Since when has Kate not being able to lie especially to strangers?! Curran might see through Kate but that's only because she wants him to - Kate could have easily played along and fooled a bunch of strangers! Also, Kate is actually a great liar — she spent her whole fucking life hiding who she was, she regularly has to act in front of the pack so they don't see her weaknesses or tiredness, she hid her emotions and feelings from everyone growing up. So how the fuck was she a bad liar?! I very much doubt she would have had any trouble pretending, acting and lying. Did he know Kate at all?! Curran's excuses were pure BULLSHIT. He must have just liked lying, humiliating and hurting Kate, and he must have loved getting cozy, and bitching about Kate with Lorelei. The FUCKING dick.
-The most unforgivable thing was not letting Kate know there was an extra threat, Curran knew their weren't at home, that they were outnumbered and that they had little control there. He knew that Kate could have easily been isolated and then killed but he still didn't feel the need to warn her so she could be extra careful. And he didn't even tell the rest of the pack that they needed to keep an extra close eye on Kate. It wasn't like Curran himself was watching out for her — he was too busy sucking up to Lorelai. So Kate was left on her own and she was in more danger than she knew — that just showed how little Curran cared for Kate's safety.
-Kate was decent enough until she turned into a doormat and forgave all Curran's bullshit after one conversation. I didn't expect her to dump him but she should have at least taken a step back. Curran's non-stop lies and full on flirting with another woman showed that their relationship wasn't right.
Their whole conversation at the end was ridiculous, Kate said they weren't okay and that she wasn't sure what to do, and then her next sentence was literally that everything was cool between them. WTF?!
Oh and then, Curran told her he would act the same way if he had to do it all again. Really?! So he basically told Kate he still didn't trust her or have faith in her, and Kate was okay with that?! When did she turn into such an idiot?
I really hated how Kate tried to justify Curran's reasoning by saying she would have done the same thing. There's NO WAY she would have lied, flirted with another man, and humiliated Curran like that. I hate when the hero and heroine have huge problems in their relationship and the heroine glosses them over by saying she would have done the same thing when it's so obvious she wouldn't have.
By the end of Kate and Curran's conversation, they didn't sort anything out - Curran made dumb excuses and then Kate made even more dumb excuses for him. Their relationship was a mess.
-The thing that really pissed me off was that if the situation was reversed, Curran would not have forgiven Kate straight away, he would have acted like a dick towards her and held a grudge for ages. And Kate would have had to apologise over and over again, and then she would have had to make it up to him and prove herself. Then she'd have to make several grand declarations — then maybe just maybe he would have deigned to take her back. But it wouldn't end there, because he still wouldn't trust her completely and she'd forever have to work for his trust or some bullshit. Ugh.
-Kate's attitude towards Desendra pissed me off. She was really judgmental and unsympathetic towards her especially at the beginning. Did Kate not realise that Desendra was pregnant with twins? Had a dad who wanted her dead? Had two ex's that had their own agendas? And had no-one that genuinely loved and cared for her? With Desendra's history, it was no surprise she behaved the way she did - Kate was a total cow with her judgy attitude. I did like that Kate eventually managed to get some perspective and stopped looking down at Desendra so much.
-I loved all the scenes with Hugh D'Ambry. He was the best thing about the book, he definitely had some chemistry with Kate. I was actually wishing Kate would dump Curran and instead have a fling with Hugh.
-The secondary characters were all good - I loved Aunt B, Doolittle, Derek, George, Barbaras. I still hated Mahon, his whole acceptance of Kate was a case of too little, too late. Aunt B's death was sad, I would have preferred if Mahon had died.
I was disappointed that there was no Dali at all, I was looking forward to a little interaction between her and Jim.
Desendra's character was great - I felt sorry for her not only having a bastard dad but also two uncaring, cowardly, greedy husbands. I was so glad she killed her dad — but I was left confused as to who inherited his territory.
The Christopher thing at the end was cheesy, Hugh must have known that Christopher knew how to make panacea — there's no way Hugh would have let Christopher go, he would have at least tried to kill him.
-There were too many info dumps about the mystery flying monsters. It was really boring reading Kate's speculation about what they were and their origins and whatnot.
-I was annoyed at Kate's constant crying. Okay, she cried twice but it was still annoying.
-All the sudden marriage talk irritated me. Kate and Curran were fine before, and the whole let's get married felt less a natural step in the next stage of their relationship and more a thing they forced because other people kept bringing it up.
All in all, I was disappointed. The story wasn't my cup of tea because there was too much pack nonsense, Kate was a pushover, and Curran was a dick - I don't think he's as bad as Reyes (from the Charley Davidson series) or Owen (from the Elemental Assassin series) but he's definitely well and truly ruined for me.
Not impressed. I've never given an Ilona Andrews book less than 3 stars before but there was just too much WTFery in Magic Rises to rate it any higher. I loved all the earlier Kate Daniels books, they had the right balance of plot, action, romance and humour. Sadly, Magic Rises was a complete mess.
Random thoughts:
-What's what: Pack kids go loup, need medicine, loads of melodrama, Kate/Curran offered medicine and in exchange must protect pregnant shifter (Desendra), Kate and gang travel to Europe for the job, the gang wary of trap, loads of posturing from foreign packs, Curran acts like fucker, mystery monsters, Kate acts like doormat. The end.
-I hated all the focus on pack and pack politics. I'm sick of all their rubbish, the series feels more about the pack than about Kate. I miss Kate going on her solo adventures, I'm tired of her being tied to the pack and Curran.
-I was annoyed that Kate was the one who seemed to be handling all the pack bullshit instead of Curran. She was the one organising the security detail for the pregnant shifter, she was the one investigating the mystery monsters, and she was the one holding the group together. Curran left it all to Kate whilst he spent all his time flirting and getting his ego stroked by a hot young wolf princess (Lorelei). I didn't buy his silly excuses for hanging out with Lorelei - he did it because he wanted to, not because of Kate.
-I used to love Curran but after reading Magic Rises, I no longer like him. He did way too many unforgivable things — the way he treated Kate was awful.
It made no sense whatsoever that Curran didn't tell Kate that someone wanted her dead — he knew before they even got off the boat, but he still kept it from her. She was going to dangerous, foreign territory, and he didn't think Kate ought to know that someone was out to get her?! WTF?! Her life was in even more danger than she thought — how would keeping her in the dark help in any way?!
How dare Curran risk Kate's life further by not warning her of another threat! Did Curran have that little trust and faith in her? He didn't even have all the information on who hired the pirates to kill Kate until Saiman further question the pirate, so why not tell her straight away? His whole excuse at the end didn't add up.
-As soon as Curran saw Lorelei, he was all over her and that was BEFORE he even realised her involvement in Kate's assassination attempt. Curran only bribed Lorelei's uncle after he found out from Saiman that the money the pirate had was from Lorelei's country. So why was he all over her from the get go unless he genuinely wanted her?!
Curran's flirting with Lorelai was too much, actually he was basically mating with her, what with giving her food, letting her kill the animals he hunted, letting her sit next to him, standing naked next to her, going on romantic walks with her, talking about his relationship to Kate with her, and bitching about Kate. Ugh. I have no doubt that Curran enjoyed his time with her — he was probably buttering up Lorelai in case anything happened to Kate, that way he'd have a back up. The dick.
Hugh was right when he said that Curran wanted to have sex with Lorelei and that Curran must have thought about it. I don't know why Kate ignored Hugh's opinion — he was spot on about Curran.
-Not only did Curran cheat on Kate (yea, he did cheat on her in shifter terms), he humiliated her in front of EVERYONE, and then he lied about it repeatedly. I was irritated that Kate just believed Curran's lies. Why didn't she ask Curran that if he really didn't want Lorelei why the fuck was he spending so much time with her? Why didn't she question him further?
-The reason for Curran's behaviour towards Lorelei was BULLSHIT. He thought getting touchy feely with Lorelai would stop the assassination attempt but there was no guarantee of that. If the fuckers were willing to kill Kate in the first place so that Lorelai could have him then why wouldn't they decide to just finish Kate off straight away? That way Curran would be vulnerable enough for Lorelai to seduce him. None of it made sense. If he really wanted to keep Kate safe he should have told her and spent as much time with her as he could instead of leaving her all alone thus making it easier for her to be killed.
-If Curran had told Kate his nonsensical plan at the beginning, then not only would she have been more careful, she would have played along. She would still have been pissed and jealous at Curran's flirting even though she knew it wasn't real — it's not like she would been cool with seeing Curran pretending to want another women. It would have still hurt her — so her responses would have been genuine. That's why I didn't buy Curran not telling Kate his plan, him saying Kate couldn't lie and that she was worse at lying than a child was ABSOLUTE UTTER BULLSHIT.
Since when has Kate not being able to lie especially to strangers?! Curran might see through Kate but that's only because she wants him to - Kate could have easily played along and fooled a bunch of strangers! Also, Kate is actually a great liar — she spent her whole fucking life hiding who she was, she regularly has to act in front of the pack so they don't see her weaknesses or tiredness, she hid her emotions and feelings from everyone growing up. So how the fuck was she a bad liar?! I very much doubt she would have had any trouble pretending, acting and lying. Did he know Kate at all?! Curran's excuses were pure BULLSHIT. He must have just liked lying, humiliating and hurting Kate, and he must have loved getting cozy, and bitching about Kate with Lorelei. The FUCKING dick.
-The most unforgivable thing was not letting Kate know there was an extra threat, Curran knew their weren't at home, that they were outnumbered and that they had little control there. He knew that Kate could have easily been isolated and then killed but he still didn't feel the need to warn her so she could be extra careful. And he didn't even tell the rest of the pack that they needed to keep an extra close eye on Kate. It wasn't like Curran himself was watching out for her — he was too busy sucking up to Lorelai. So Kate was left on her own and she was in more danger than she knew — that just showed how little Curran cared for Kate's safety.
-Kate was decent enough until she turned into a doormat and forgave all Curran's bullshit after one conversation. I didn't expect her to dump him but she should have at least taken a step back. Curran's non-stop lies and full on flirting with another woman showed that their relationship wasn't right.
Their whole conversation at the end was ridiculous, Kate said they weren't okay and that she wasn't sure what to do, and then her next sentence was literally that everything was cool between them. WTF?!
Oh and then, Curran told her he would act the same way if he had to do it all again. Really?! So he basically told Kate he still didn't trust her or have faith in her, and Kate was okay with that?! When did she turn into such an idiot?
I really hated how Kate tried to justify Curran's reasoning by saying she would have done the same thing. There's NO WAY she would have lied, flirted with another man, and humiliated Curran like that. I hate when the hero and heroine have huge problems in their relationship and the heroine glosses them over by saying she would have done the same thing when it's so obvious she wouldn't have.
By the end of Kate and Curran's conversation, they didn't sort anything out - Curran made dumb excuses and then Kate made even more dumb excuses for him. Their relationship was a mess.
-The thing that really pissed me off was that if the situation was reversed, Curran would not have forgiven Kate straight away, he would have acted like a dick towards her and held a grudge for ages. And Kate would have had to apologise over and over again, and then she would have had to make it up to him and prove herself. Then she'd have to make several grand declarations — then maybe just maybe he would have deigned to take her back. But it wouldn't end there, because he still wouldn't trust her completely and she'd forever have to work for his trust or some bullshit. Ugh.
-Kate's attitude towards Desendra pissed me off. She was really judgmental and unsympathetic towards her especially at the beginning. Did Kate not realise that Desendra was pregnant with twins? Had a dad who wanted her dead? Had two ex's that had their own agendas? And had no-one that genuinely loved and cared for her? With Desendra's history, it was no surprise she behaved the way she did - Kate was a total cow with her judgy attitude. I did like that Kate eventually managed to get some perspective and stopped looking down at Desendra so much.
-I loved all the scenes with Hugh D'Ambry. He was the best thing about the book, he definitely had some chemistry with Kate. I was actually wishing Kate would dump Curran and instead have a fling with Hugh.
-The secondary characters were all good - I loved Aunt B, Doolittle, Derek, George, Barbaras. I still hated Mahon, his whole acceptance of Kate was a case of too little, too late. Aunt B's death was sad, I would have preferred if Mahon had died.
I was disappointed that there was no Dali at all, I was looking forward to a little interaction between her and Jim.
Desendra's character was great - I felt sorry for her not only having a bastard dad but also two uncaring, cowardly, greedy husbands. I was so glad she killed her dad — but I was left confused as to who inherited his territory.
The Christopher thing at the end was cheesy, Hugh must have known that Christopher knew how to make panacea — there's no way Hugh would have let Christopher go, he would have at least tried to kill him.
-There were too many info dumps about the mystery flying monsters. It was really boring reading Kate's speculation about what they were and their origins and whatnot.
-I was annoyed at Kate's constant crying. Okay, she cried twice but it was still annoying.
-All the sudden marriage talk irritated me. Kate and Curran were fine before, and the whole let's get married felt less a natural step in the next stage of their relationship and more a thing they forced because other people kept bringing it up.
All in all, I was disappointed. The story wasn't my cup of tea because there was too much pack nonsense, Kate was a pushover, and Curran was a dick - I don't think he's as bad as Reyes (from the Charley Davidson series) or Owen (from the Elemental Assassin series) but he's definitely well and truly ruined for me.
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Jul 30, 2013 01:57AM
No WAY will Curran go bastard! You must be having a laugh! :-p
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I'm really glad that I'm not the only one that's pissed with him and that's going to stay pissed with him.I've just read his excuses and yea, I'm not impressed. I'm also annoyed at Kate becoming a doormat and forgiving him straight away. I think this'll be 2 stars for me :(
LOL, we're not alone! I thought I was overreacting again after seeing so many 5 and 4 star rated reviews!I'm glad that someone else sees Curran's douchery - I honestly think he could have just told Kate the truth from the get go. She's not some ridiculous bint who can't lie or act if it's a life or death situation. Curran knows that but he still chose to repeatedly lie to her and hurt her. I'm just left thinking that Curran wanted to hurt and humiliate Kate.
WTF is going on with Currain? I'm only about a fourth of the way in and I'm already getting pissed at him.
I am...not pleased with the direction their relationship seems to be taking. I like them exactly BECAUSE they seemed so above all this relationship drama bullshit in the last book. Curran considering this twenty year old as an option seems totally out of character and in direct contradiction to what he's claimed to want. GRRRRR.
Yep, I loved Kate/Curran because they actually had a swoony, sweet, entertaining relationship without resorting to cheap drama that makes no sense.I just don't buy Curran fucking over Kate to supposedly help her instead of trusting her and working with her to tackle the problem - that's not the Kate and Curran I knew from the last 5 books.
Curran has been ruined for me for the sake of cheap relationship angst.
Yeah, I skipped ahead to see what Curran's explanation was, and it doesn't make any sense. Kate spent twenty-some years BEFORE Currain hiding who she was, and now she supposedly can't lie? I was also pretty upset at the heavy-handedness, because I thought Kate and Curran were a TEAM. I'm with you: I'm not sure Curran deserves Kate after this book.
Just to add: I also really dislike how Kate acts around Curran in this book. Instead of making each other stronger (which I THOUGHT they did) Curran makes her question herself. He proved that he's okay with making decisions for her, without her consent, and admitted that he would do it again. I can't believe Kate found that forgivable.
The sudden obsession with marriage was also really frustrating...like Kate and Curran's partnership suddenly didn't count because they aren't married? Even though I'm pretty sure Curran referred to Kate as his wife in book 5.
I finally finished it - I wasn't impressed with the lame resolution to Curran's unforgivable actions. He treated Kate like shit, and then he roared a bit, and Kate was all over him again. WTF?! The lack of trust Curran had for Kate was a major thing, that needed to be worked on that before anything. Instead lame excuses were made and they both decided to get (view spoiler) instead of actually working on their relationship.
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Right?! The plot holes and lazy writing in this book were kind of shocking, and don't even get me started on the deus ex machina that was Christopher. WTF.And yeah, Curran's lack of trust in Kate was a HUGE deal, and using marriage as the solution was problematic. (Even though they clearly considered themselves married in the last book, pffft.) Kate's explanation of "who else would have us?" wasn't funny and seemed kind of sad...like if she left Curran she would be alone forever.
I still love me some Kate, but Curran really let me down in this book. Not sure I can keep rooting for them.
Also, Ferdy: I had the same thoughts about Hugh that you mention in your review. I know he's kind of violent and crazy, but he was certainly looking like a better option in this book than Curran. At least he treats her like his equal, even though Kate claimed he was manipulating her. (Yet she forgave Curran for doing the same thing?)
Becky wrote: "Right?! The plot holes and lazy writing in this book were kind of shocking, and don't even get me started on the deus ex machina that was Christopher. WTF.And yeah, Curran's lack of trust in Kate..."
Yea, Christopher felt like such a deus ex machinas. It was so cheesy how he just so happened to know how to make panacea.
The marriage nonsense was ridiculous for a number of reasons, the main one them having major trust issues - it felt like the solution to Curran lying and humiliating Kate was for them to get married. It was laughable that after Curran betrayed Kate she was open to marrying him. Was the proposal meant to be romantic or something?! It was a fucking joke. I can't believe how much of a doormat Kate was.
Why do they even need to get married? They were already mates - isn't that meant to be the same thing? I just hope Kate doesn't change her last name.
Becky wrote: "Also, Ferdy: I had the same thoughts about Hugh that you mention in your review. I know he's kind of violent and crazy, but he was certainly looking like a better option in this book than Curran. A..."
Yes, I was getting major vibes from Hugh and Kate. It was clear that Hugh respected Kate and treated her as a equal after he saw her in action. I was really intrigued by their banter.
Litchick wrote: "Absolutely Ferdy. I was so angry I almost stopped reading right there. She was such a doormat for him.
And what the hell was up with them [spoilers removed]
Lawd, I'm still so pissed about this."]
The buddy system was a joke. Kate was on her own loads, and like you said Curran even left her with Hugh so he could hunt with his new girlfriend.
How did Curran know for sure that Hugh wouldn't kill Kate? It wasn't like he knew Hugh's MO at that point. Also, Hugh was more powerful and experienced than Kate. So why would Curran leave her on her own?!
I was so pissed that Curran did NOTHING to Lorelei. She took a hit out on the woman he supposedly loved - why was he cool with that?!
And his whole Lorelei is stupid and naive thing pissed me the fuck off. Since when was it stupid and naive to hire someone to kill the competition?! It's not.
For Lorelei to end the life of someone she hadn't even met was obviously cold, cunning and manipulative. She wasn't some lost little butterfly, she knew what she was doing. But Curran didn't care that she tried to kill Kate, he obviously wanted to protect his mate's would be murderer. Ugh.
Curran's behavior toward Kate was really inconsistent and made zero sense. He trusted her ability to protect herself enough to leave her alone pretty frequently, but she couldn't take care of herself if she knew there was a hit out on her. The mate thing is annoying and contradictory to previous books (and what the authors claimed in the past). I'm 99% sure that Curran referred to Kate as his wife in book 5, and not long after reading Magic Slays I went to Ilona Andrew's website to clarify what the deal was between them.
Ilona wrote that Kate and Curran were "married but hadn't had the party yet", which fits with the way Curran and Kate treat each other in Magic Slays. Yet suddenly in this book, Kate is bothered by the fact that they "aren't married" and is even questioning her future with him because of it.
I'm guessing there was outside pressure to keep their relationship "exciting", hence all the manufactured relationship dramaz in this one.
Becky wrote: "Curran's behavior toward Kate was really inconsistent and made zero sense. He trusted her ability to protect herself enough to leave her alone pretty frequently, but she couldn't take care of herse..."Yea, nothing added up and everyone was so OOC. Curran left Kate alone so many times even though he knew her life was threatened. It would have been fine if Kate knew that someone else was after her but she didn't - she was left vulnerable. Why would Curran be cool with that? I still don't get the thinking behind Curran's actions.
I thought being someone's mate/consort was basically the same as marriage, if not more serious than marriage. That's what we've been led to believe from previous books, so this sudden turn around that Kate's position is seen as temporary and not important because she's not married to Curran makes no sense.
The cheap relationship drama was annoying, I for one didn't find it exciting.
I would have been fine with relationship drama if it made sense - Curran not telling Kate the truth because she apparently couldn't lie made no sense, Curran not trusting Kate made no sense, Kate not demanding answers from Curran when he brushed her off made no sense, Kate being doormat at the end no made sense. It was all OOC and bullshit.
If Kate and Curran had to have problems, then the drama should have been organic and they should have still kept within their characters. Sadly, that wasn't the case.
I agree 100% with what everybody has said. I'm still pissed off about it. I gave the book 4 stars because I did enjoy most of it. I would have given it 5 stars if it wasn't for Curran's behavior. I think it was just a silly drama that they felt they needed to add to their relationship 6 books in, but it was just so out of character and stupid. I adored this series exactly because there wasn't any relationship drama. I'm 34. I'm not interested in angst. I like to read about adult relationships that work, not the will they won't they crap that we can find anywhere and that teens seem to love and I abhor.
Oh, and my favorite part was when Curran said that Barjabas had tried to attack him. I was like Go, Barabas, kick his fucking ass. Although, I think Kate should have kicked his ass.
Barbara (VampAngel) wrote: "I agree 100% with what everybody has said. I'm still pissed off about it. I gave the book 4 stars because I did enjoy most of it. I would have given it 5 stars if it wasn't for Curran's behavior. I..."Yea, the relationship nonsense and the lack of communication was like a lame YA book.
All the drama was contrived for the sole purpose of adding angst.
Curran and Kate were in a good place, their relationship was healthy and strong, and they were a team. So Curran acting like some emo teen by hiding things from Kate, and then acting like a manslut was ridiculous.
It was like I was reading a completely different couple.
If angst had to be written in then it should have been authentic angst where the characters still acted like themselves.
Barbara (VampAngel) wrote: "YES! That's exactly it. It was contrived. They are way better as authors to have to resort to this."Yea, I expected much more. Maybe it's because the series was extended so like other UF authors they messes with relationship for filler purposes.
Barbara (VampAngel) wrote: "Oh, and my favorite part was when Curran said that Barjabas had tried to attack him. I was like Go, Barabas, kick his fucking ass. Although, I think Kate should have kicked his ass."
I was so pleased that Kate had people on her side. I felt so sorry for her when she felt like an outsider and not part of the group. That dick Curran made her feel like that. After all that hurt and insecurity he caused Kate, he was forgiven way too easily.
Kate and Curran's relationship will never be the same as before for me - the way Curran acted, the lame make up between them, and the sudden marriage proposal just made them so blah.
Yes. He made her feel awful and alone and was so humiliating. He humiliated her in front of so many people. I don't think I would be able to forgive a man that, even if it was supposedly done to protect her. And I wanted Lorelei to have her ass kicked by Kate. She deserve it. And Curran treating her like a child was silly. If you are adult enough to hire people to kill someone you are a fucking adult and a horrible one at that. I wanted to see her dead, which although I'm bloodthirsty is justified. Curran and Kate have killed people for less.
And yeah, their relationship lost most of its shine for me too. That broke my heart even worse than what Curran did. Their relationship up to book 5 was my happy place. I'm sad now.
Barbara (VampAngel) wrote: "Yes. He made her feel awful and alone and was so humiliating. He humiliated her in front of so many people. I don't think I would be able to forgive a man that, even if it was supposedly done to pr..."The lying and shiter-cheating were bad enough but the humiliation on top of that, ugh.
Not only was she humiliated in front of her own pack but also in front of a load of others. And not only that, she was verbally attacked by them because of what Curran was doing. How could she forgive him so quickly after all that? Curran knew exactly what he was doing, and he still chose to lie and hurt Kate all so he flirt with another woman.
I don't believe for one second that if Curran had told Kate the truth that she'd be incapable of playing the game. Especially if it meant her death. She's acted her whole life, she would have more than handled it.
And Curran letting his little princess off pissed me right off. She tried to kill his mate and he didn't punish her! WTF?! Like you said, they've killed people for less. He must have obviously have a huge soft spot for Lorelei if he let her off after not only putting Kate's life in danger but also ruining his relationship.
Curran must be keeping Lorlei as a backup in case something happens to Kate. Why else would he call Lorelei a weak, naive child when it's so clear she's a ruthess, cunning shifter? Curran likes having options.
I hated Curran more than Lorelei, he's the one who supposedly loved and respected Kate yet he chose to hurt her. Lorelei on the other hand was just another shifter who wanted to climb the ladder - Kate was nothing to her. And she didn't force Curran to flirt with her, he chose to that.
And yea, that brilliance in their relationship has gone, and now they're just another cliched UF couple with the typical-doormat-heroine and the standard-boring-lying-cheating-douchey-hero.
Oh, I'm pissed off at Curran not Lorelei. If she hadn't wanted to murder Kate I would have been fine with her. Curran is the huge asshole here. He's the mated one. Argh. I'm so mad. I just can't even find words to review the book.
I can't believe they let her get away with putting a hit on Kate. They should have ripped her apart.Lorelei was clearly taken with Curran, and Curran acted like he wanted her by giving her food, hunting with her, bitching about Kate etc.. It'd be perfectly reasonable for Lorelei to think Curran genuinely wanted her and is now somehow trapped with Kate. So how do they know she wouldn't try get and rid of Kate and 'free' Curran at some point in the future??
LOL, I know what you mean - it took me a while to actually calm down enough to write some sort of review.
Barbara (VampAngel) wrote: " Curran is the huge asshole here. He's the mated one."This.
The fact that the book finished with Lorelei as the bad guy in the Curran/Lorelei dynamic did not sit well with me at all. Lorelei might have been morally corrupt, but she was also led on by Curran, a much older, more experienced, and far more powerful person. Her taking out a hit on Kate is nowhere near as bad as Curran BETRAYING HIS MATE. Lorelei did not know Kate and never owed her any kind of loyalty. She also grew up in an incredibly corrupt society. Curran owed Kate his loyalty, betrayed her anyway, and didn't even learn from the situation. He admits he would do it again, which is the exact opposite of the teamwork they had in previous books.
This book did not fit in with the prior books at all. If this is how the rest of the series will go, they should not have extended it and I will not continue to buy it.
Becky wrote: "Barbara (VampAngel) wrote: " Curran is the huge asshole here. He's the mated one."This.
The fact that the book finished with Lorelei as the bad guy in the Curran/Lorelei dynamic did not sit well..."
Yea, I hated that Curran came out smelling like Roses, and Lorelei was made out to be the evul one.
She wasn't, she was like any other opportunistic hunter - manipulative and cunning.
Kate was a doormat for forgiving Curran especially after he said he'd still lie, humiliate and betray her. He doesn't deserve Kate.
Belphegoris wrote: "Your random thoughts are spot on. Great review!"
Thanks :)
Angela wrote: "Great review. I think I'll skip this one. Kate and Curran were in a good place in the last book and I'd rather leave them as the perfect UF couple than have them ruined. Denial is my crack apparently."Thanks :)
I don't blame you for wanting to preserve Kate and Curran's once great relationship!
I am so glad to see I am not the only one disappointed with this book. Looking at the 5 star reviews given by all the book blogs, I wondered if I was the only one who didn't enjoy it as much as the previous books.
Reearry wrote: "I am so glad to see I am not the only one disappointed with this book. Looking at the 5 star reviews given by all the book blogs, I wondered if I was the only one who didn't enjoy it as much as the..."You are not alone, it was definitely a disappointment compared to earlier books in the series.
Characters acted OOC, and it was all so contrived just to add silly drama and and angst.
I think it was all down to the fact that the series was extended - that's usually when filler plot and cheap drama is added.
Angela wrote: "Ferdy wrote: "Reearry wrote: "I am so glad to see I am not the only one disappointed with this book. Looking at the 5 star reviews given by all the book blogs, I wondered if I was the only one who ..."I don't even remember the villains in book 5, so yea they must have been lame.
I definitely think if the series hadn't been extended a lot of things would have been different.
I doubt we would have been introduced to loads of new characters, and there wouldn't have been all the idiotic relationship drama, and everything would have taken place in Atlanta.
Also, the whole panacea drug for the shifter kids wouldn't have been such a focus either.
It would all been purely about Hugh and Roland.
I actually enjoyed this more than the last one. Probably because of Hugh and Lorelei. Finally some selfish characters. I get so sick of heroes.
Many people have raised the issue of why didn't Curran just tell Kate about the additional threat. Personally, I think that most of the books in the series have established that Curran is great at Pack politics, but a shitty strategist when people he cares for are at risk. Without getting too spoilery, he ignores the nagging doubt "attention-seeking" merc Kate feels in the first book and endangers his girlfriends; in the second he makes a huge tactical error that almost costs everyone everything; silver golem in the third; in the fourth, Kate's aunt nearly kills him after he ignores Kate's pleas. I think Book 5 is the only one lacking some colossal blunder from Curran, and we got spoiled. Kate sympathizes with his shitty planning because she also would do anything and everything she thought was necessary to protect people she cares about. Kate's just seems to do it better and a little more violently.But for Curran, couple this shelter-at-all-costs with a restive pack demanding the panacea and the looming presence of Roland, you get his Lorelei plan. He probably recognized, just as B and Barabbas did that Lorelei was meant to be a temptation from someone, and he played into that right away. Only a little bit later did he learn she was responsible for the contract and not a panacea problem, but by that point you also have to deal with Hugh and winged beasts, etc.
Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I don't think Curran's stupidity and Kate's reaction is drama for drama's sake. They've proven time and again with their actions that they love each other, and Curran always comes for her. I think this lack of trust when one of the pair's life is at stake and the fear that causes each to try to take everything on solo is going to be a key hurdle to overcome to defeat Roland. Basically, Curran can't try to keep shielding Kate and she can't keep thinking of walking away, or in the alternative, taking the bullet for everybody. Their conversation at the end doesn't resolve this issue--particularly when Kate agrees that if Roland shows up, she'd walk away if he agreed to leave her Pack alone--but that's a nice little segue into the next book.
Cstillsquare wrote: "I think Book 5 is the only one lacking some colossal blunder from Curran, and we got spoiled."The big change with books 4 and 5, though, was that Curran and Kate became a couple. Curran himself acknowledged (I think in book 4?) that he did a lot of reckless things to protect Kate because he was afraid she would get herself killed. But when Kate protects herself and holds the Pack together, Curran gets to see the aftermath of it. At that point, Curran clearly sees her as an Alpha of the pack, since he insists she come to meetings with him. Curran seemed to be changing and growing.
The giant backwards shift between the last book and this book is noticeable. Had this book occurred AFTER book 4, the relationship progression would have made more sense. But I don't think the lack of a "colossal blunder" from Curran in book 5 was coincidental: he repeatedly looks to Kate for guidance and her opinion there, and here behaves like he's the lone Beast Lord again, making decisions without Kate.
THAT is what makes the book feel like the drama is manufactured: not just that it occurs, but that it occurs out of order from the character progression we've seen so far.
Cstillsquare wrote: "Many people have raised the issue of why didn't Curran just tell Kate about the additional threat. Personally, I think that most of the books in the series have established that Curran is great at..."Basically what Becky said.
Kate and Curran were in place in their relationship that was strong, they were equals, they respected each other, they trusted each other, they were a team.
So for Curran to start keeping things from Kate like she's some delicate little flower who doesn't know how to handle herself didn't add up.
I wouldn't have minded angst or drama if it was organic. But what happened in Magic Rises was contrived - the Curran from book 5 saw Kate as his partner in everything, he knew what she was capable of, they'd faced bigger and badder things. So his decision to keep her in the dark made no sense.
And even at the end of Magic Rises, Curran told Kate that he would still lie, humiliate and betray her rather than trust in her and work together on whatever they were facing.
I didn't like this new Curran who thought he knew what was best for Kate. She's an adult who can make her own decisions especially when it comes to her life.
Ferdy wrote: "And even at the end of Magic Rises, Curran told Kate that he would still lie, humiliate and betray her rather than trust in her and work together on whatever they were facing.I didn't like this new Curran who thought he knew what was best for Kate. "Things could have been salvaged, I think, if Curran had acknowledged that most of his problems this time around were of his own making. Instead, his proclamation that he would do it all over again was bizarre, and Kate's agreement that she would do the same didn't fit.
Honestly, Magic Rises comes really close to outright contradicting earlier books a few times. Didn't Curran and Kate have a Big Discussion about how Kate wasn't going to run anymore in book 4 or 5? I couldn't understand why Kate was suddenly considering leaving the Pack. I was just like, WE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS.
Becky wrote: "Ferdy wrote: "And even at the end of Magic Rises, Curran told Kate that he would still lie, humiliate and betray her rather than trust in her and work together on whatever they were facing.I didn't..."Yea, I would have still been pissed at Curran if he admitted he was wrong and that he wouldn't lie/betray Kate again but at least that would have been a step in the right direction.
I kind of got the feeling that Curran saying he would do the same thing all over again was basically sending a message that what he did was right and that Kate was in the wrong. Yea, I didn't like that.
I think the relationship issues in MR would have worked better before book 5.
The fact that Kate/Curran reached a level of trust and understanding in book 5 makes me think that if they do reach another level of trust in the future that it really won't mean much - if Curran managed to go behind Kate's back when they were equals and a team in book 5 then what's stopping him from doing so again when they're back to being solid equals?
Roksana wrote: "Another book to stay clear....remember Ferdy we were so angry at the authors to allow the heroin take all the crap and the hero is of the hook! This guy Curran is a total pig-headed jackass and she..."I was so pissed with Curran and his fucking lies. I loved him in the previous 5 books, but in this one he was awful. He's no longer swoon worthy. And Kate turned into a doormat.
I'll still read future books, but I'm not as fond of the series any more.
This is why I follow your reviews. You hate cheating/jackass heroes almost as much as me. Unfortunately, lately Ive read way to many fantasy series where the books start out with a kickass heroine and an awesome hero but as the series goes on the hero starts behaving like an ass and the heroine just takes it all.
I hate it. Maybe im just bloodthirsty, but once I just want to see a heroine who stands up for herself, gets angry and doesnt forgive and forget.
I tend to get very emotional so thanks for the warning (and my bf would probably thank you too, cuz i tend to go on an all-men-are-assholes rampage after books like these...yeah i know i have issues:P)
Auraya wrote: "This is why I follow your reviews. You hate cheating/jackass heroes almost as much as me. Unfortunately, lately Ive read way to many fantasy series where the books start out with a kickass heroin..."
Same here, all the UF series I'm reading all have the hero acting like a fucker at some point. That's fine but don't make the heroine a doormat. Let her have revenge, let her move on, and let that fucker grovel. But no, all these authors like their heroines being spineless Mary Sues. Ugh.
I get really invested in books too, so when the hero acts like a dick, I feel betrayed. LOL, we both have issues :P
Roksana wrote: "Ferdy wrote: "Roksana wrote: "Another book to stay clear....remember Ferdy we were so angry at the authors to allow the heroin take all the crap and the hero is of the hook! This guy Curran is a to..."
I tried reading that silver shark book or whatever it's called but I could never get into it. I might give it a another go.
Every UF author seems to be pissing me off lately. It's like they're all in competition with each other to make their hero the most douchiest. Ugh.
Roksana wrote: "WOW you hit the mark with this one.."to make their hero the most douchiest! We need an honest reviews like that, not the author's friends crap reviews! "Yep, I do think most reviews are legit especially the bigger releases. I just think other readers are more easily pleased than us - we don't accept any BS :D
oh no.... i liked Curran before, you really put me off this one now. I hate cheaters with a burning passion of a thousand suns.
Ivie wrote: "oh no.... i liked Curran before, you really put me off this one now. I hate cheaters with a burning passion of a thousand suns."Me too, I think Curran's weeks of lying was the bigger betrayal than him practically cheating on Kate. It showed how little respect he had for Kate, and it showed that he would lie again if it suited his needs.
You know what? Maybe he will turn out to be like Lucas from Secret McQueen. The only thing about Secret McQueen though is that she doesn't take any shit. I LOVED this series because of how strong Kate was and how grounded. It sounds right now that she turned spineless. I don't know should i read it or wait for the next one. You made very good points in your review, points that i care about a lot. I just think it would ruin this series for me for good. I hate pushover heroines.
Ivie wrote: "You know what? Maybe he will turn out to be like Lucas from Secret McQueen. The only thing about Secret McQueen though is that she doesn't take any shit. I LOVED this series because of how strong K..."Kate turned into a doormat, she let Curran get away with everything. It was sickening.
I've seen some snippets of the next book and it just seems like all the crap Curran pulled has been forgotten about, they're back to their normal banter. Ugh, it's putting me off reading the next one because like you I can't stand pushover heroines.



