• Hi, version 6.9 is killing everything…. and I also downgraded.

    How you can release something which breaks half of billion websites?

    I wonder….

    from the looks of it you guys created this wordpress for some ai driven crazy super servers of the future….

    but for the good servers with solid cloudflare / wordpress / top bare metal and stack it looks like HAMMERING.

    HOW YOU can explain this it happens every 3 min:

    /wp-includes/js/dist/token-list.min.js – 78
    /wp-includes/js/jquery/ui/core.min.js – 76
    /wp-includes/js/dist/commands.min.js – 73
    /wp-includes/js/heartbeat.min.js – 69
    /wp-cron.php – 65

    why would you guys create a core that hammers backedn and basically doesn’t expect anything else to be there, even basic plugins have no longer any space like wordfence of yoast… even removing these doesn’t help… maybe think of creating something useful for everyone?

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  • Thread Starter hellobonjour2025

    (@hellobonjour2025)

    @threadi, do you think removing my replies will solve the issues you made for millions of people?

    that’s jsut lousy way of helping, don’t you think?

    you can close this topic if you like – I don’t expect much from you anyway… but maybe FIX THE WORDPRESS – woudl be great thing to start….

    Moderator threadi

    (@threadi)

    I understand your frustration. A website that isn’t working properly is always awful. However, to better help you with your specific problem, we would need more information about your project. Which theme are you using? Which plugins?

    The reason for this question is that since the update to WordPress 6.9, I’ve heard reports of problematic themes causing exactly this kind of increased CPU load. I’m also unclear how this can even happen, as none of the websites I manage experience this issue. If you switch the theme on an affected project, the load disappears – at least, that’s what some reports I’ve read recently suggested. To analyze this properly, we would need more details about the affected project, and then we can help you find a solution.

    You would probably solve your specific problem most quickly by reverting to WordPress version 6.8.3. Alternatively, you could try deactivating all plugins to rule them out as the cause. Switching themes might also be worth a try.

    Please note:
    This forum is a help forum for users, by users for users. I’m just a WordPress user like you and the many others who help each other here. See the forum guidelines: https://wordpress.org/support/guidelines/

    Also, please note:
    WordPress is open-source software developed collaboratively by thousands of people worldwide. There’s no “you” you can address in this context.

    From now on, a moderator’s note:
    Please phrase your questions in a more friendly tone.

    Thread Starter hellobonjour2025

    (@hellobonjour2025)

    Mr @threadi ,

    Thank you very much for taking your time and lecturing. Your time is very much appreciated. Your comment helped a lot. I hope the tone of my message aligns with your expectations. As you “another user” of WordPress – my message was not addressed to you but to developers.

    I’m thrilled to know that your websites work perfectly under the new core version. Which is not in our case, and not the case of the million of other users.

    That’s been said.

    Have a wonderful day.

    Ana

    ________________________________

    After investigation of the issue of our corporate mirror website we noticed that the new core gives lots of API calls to different services.

    To developers bug report: 

    Heartbeat API
    WP-Cron: Core updates checks, Plugin/theme update checks, Health checks & transient cleanup etc.
    What we have: A cron event crashes or times out → never clears → gets rescheduled → retried on almost every page load – New scheduled tasks related to site health / auto-updates / recovery.
    Site Health / Background Checks
    Too many, too often REST API checks for availability, Loopback requests, Background updates availability, HTTPS / SSL cert, etc.
    Adding here: Auto-Updates / Background Updater
    If update checks keep failing (DNS, WAF, connectivity to api.wordpress.org / downloads.wordpress.org):
    Cron sees failures
    Retries aggressively
    Constant remote HTTP calls
    6.9 may have slightly changed behavior around self-repair, auto-rollback, or core health, causing more chatter.
    Recovery Mode hooks may:
    Re-check, re-log, re-filter
    Try to generate links, notifications

    Additional note: it is important to know that Cloudflare covers 30% of the global internet, so working with them is essential as there are millions of WordPress users out there. 

    Two things happened at the same time.
    WordPress 6.9 core update – really is misbehaving on some stacks (including Cloudflare setups).
    Cloudflare itself had a major global outage on Dec 5 that hit dashboards and APIs.

    On December 5, Cloudflare acknowledged a big incident:

    • Around 40% of global traffic impacted, including dashboard + API requests (that includes great number of WordPress users).
    • Root cause: an internal change in their WAF / React security patch that went wrong, not an attack.

    That means:

    • Any time a browser → Cloudflare dashboard, or Cloudflare → origin/API, those paths could stall or fail.
    • From our point of view: “admin suddenly loads in 10 minutes” – because the route, not our server (any server in that matter), was choking.

    WordPress 6.9 new core introduction (separate but overlapping).

    At the same time:

    • Agencies are reporting 6.9 breaking big plugins like WooCommerce, Yoast SEO and Elementor unless they’re updated in a specific order.
    • Other tests show 6.9 can be very fast on frontend, on clean, managed stacks with their own CDN, with no essential plugins: no Wordfence, no Hummingbird, no Yoast SEO, and no Cloudflare.
    • A Reddit thread from a few days ago shows people with permanent 100% CPU usage on 6.9, especially:
      • when using the Cloudflare plugin, and
      • when editing posts (backend side)

    So:

    • On “nice” hosting, with compatible plugins, 6.9 ≈ speed boost.
    • On more complex / Cloudflare-heavy setups, 6.9 + certain plugins ≈ CPU lock, admin lag, or total freeze.

    So what we, as well as many other users, experienced is a major “stack” of API calls, which were repeatedly trying to get through. We noticed on our logs around 7k API calls for cron and checks in 1 min from WordPress 6.9.

    Suggestion for the new version 6.9.1:

    Perhaps combining API calls as one to one service only – would be a solution for millions.

    Working with developers of Cloudflare and making it compatible.

    Thank you for your attention.

    Regards

    Ana – developer

    Moderator threadi

    (@threadi)

    Without additional plugins, WordPress itself only communicates with its local installation (e.g. in Site Health Checks) and some APIs at wordpress.org (e.g. to retrieve the status of plugins and themes). You seem to be describing APIs that are not controlled by WordPress itself but are provided by plugins.

    If your concern is to make a suggestion for API calls to create your own API that bundles them, the appropriate place to go would be Core Trac, where core developers can also look at it and evaluate it: https://core.trac.wordpress.org

    For your current problem, I would recommend deactivating plugins on a trial basis and seeing when the status changes. This will help you find out what is causing the problem. If you have questions about individual plugins, please contact their respective support teams. For example, you mention the Cloudflare plugin, whose support can be found here: https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/cloudflare/

    Thread Starter hellobonjour2025

    (@hellobonjour2025)

    Hi, We don’t have problem with 6.8.3 core.

    It’s been downgraded, as I said earlier.

    Massiva API calls are causing the problem.

    I don’t have any questions with plugins.

    I suggested to work with Cloudflare devs and to combine the API calls for wordpress.com / wordpress.org.

    Regards

    Moderator Support Moderator

    (@moderator)

    @hellobonjour2025 To be clear, this is a different moderator replying now.

    Please do not create duplicate topics again. It makes it harder on the 100% volunteers who support WordPress when you do that.

    Thread Starter hellobonjour2025

    (@hellobonjour2025)

    Hi, I’m terribly sorry for participating.

    the intentions were simply to inform you.

    but of course – it’ll never happen again.

    Please be reassured. I won’t post or contact you anymore.

    The idea was to submit to you information you might need if you consider users. 

    sorry to have been participated.

    Regards 

    (@moderator)

    “Please do not create duplicate topics again. It makes it harder on the 100% volunteers who support WordPress when you do that.”

    I did precisely this days back when I found a topic that aligned with my issue and was instructed by SOME Moderator – that I was not to tag along on to others topics but instead to start my own!

    Seemed counterproductive to me and I “thought” I had read not to do that as you are saying HERE but yunno, it was a moderator that said it. Literally I was verbally SPANKED for doing that. Just sayin’

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