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Is the project dead? #799
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Yes, it's dead. It takes a massive amount of effort just to keep up with the changes to the language and build system Microsoft is doing, probably at least 2 man-years to catch up to C# 7 / the .NET Core stuff. That's a bit too much for a hobby project -- we don't have that kind of free time anymore, and even if we did, there are better ways to spend it than playing catch-up with a huge dev team at Microsoft. Combine that with the free community edition, and there's little space for multiple open-source C# IDEs. |
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See also #783 |
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With Visual Studio Community you have all the necesary to start working, I also thing that is more than the essencial, I use SharpeDevelop when Visual Studio was closed to the comunity and Sharp Develop help me so much so thank to the team of SharDevelop, Thanks for all your effort hope to see some new projects from you. |
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Yeah vs community is great, is almost perfect, but it isn't low weight as SD (45mb), it isn't portable and it isn't fast as SD for old PC... Anyway i will accept the decision of the developers and i hope they can get the best from their next projects, they have gifted me many hours of fun during the years! Thanks to all of them <3 |
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@dgrunwald If the project is dead, would you possibly consider putting a note indicating such in a prominent location on this repo or the project's homepage? Many people including myself like what you (I assume you) have created, but if the project has no life and no future, it would be greatly appreciated if that was formally communicated up-front so people don't waste their time. Thanks for your consideration. |
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If it wasn't for SharpDevelop my company would have never been able to happen, literally!! In the early '00s, there was no better open solution for a startup. It spun off the fork, MonoDevelop, and brought so much to the community. Please don't give up hope. All you folks on the #develop team have and had some amazing visions. don't ever give that up. |
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@DamianSuess In early to mid 2000s there was no C# :) |
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Oh, so sad! |
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@subchannel13, not here to argue history but double-check your dates. .NET 1.0 official released February 13, 2002 (the early 2000s). C# 2.0 released, 2006 (mid-2000s). These guys helped open the door to better IDEs and forerunners of open source for .NET. Which in-turn Mono Develop was based on SharpDevelop to bring it to Linux - also branded as, Visual Studio for Mac. Ref:
(Updated history notes: 2020-06-06) |
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@DamianSuess You missed the joke, crusader. |
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@subchannel13 my mistake |
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@fretelweb : Visual Studio Community is f**** slow compare to SharpDevelop :'( |
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SharpDevelop can start very fast, even with traditional hard disk. |
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So sad, SD is my favorite C# IDE, it is faster than VS, I hope someday the project continues, but thanks guys for this awesome work. |
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Guys, are you serious? It doesn't matter if VS starts in 10 more seconds or takes 0.5 sec more time for loading some file until it's way way more productive, due to plugins/ecosystem/newer language versions/support/younameit. Don't be so greedy, it doesn't worth it. |
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Is there possible to replace SharpDevelop with Visual Studio Code with C# plugins to support legacy non Core (.NET 4.6) projects? Both Intellisense, refactoring and build should be supported. SharpDevelop itself is buggy. The only kill feature is their license. |
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I'd like to extend a special thank you to the team who produced this product. As a hobby developer it has been invaluable for experimenting with code. Given that the latest version has only 3000 downloads and will take two years to catch up then I can understand to understand why is is deprecated. Currently I'm having a problem with a debug error appearing when I try to "Add Resource". I suspect it is to do with the latest Windows updates. So I am forced to move to the Community edition of Visual Studio. But once again thanks. I have truly enjoyed using SharpDevelop. Your contribution to the Open Source community has been invaluable. |
If you are talking about the license of VS community editions, check out the express edition, there's even a 2017 one, only for desktop development tho. |
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well it's sad to see it go, but your point is undeniable. Even today I still make use of it. I love the code conversion feature. I think the only way you could have kept it attractive would have been to continue with features not found in VS. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for a great free product. |
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Alguien sabe si estan haciendo un fork de SharpDevelop, soy aficionado a la programación y el código fuente de SD esta complicadísimo. |
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I have updated the project. |
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In my case the company's built in antivirus Symantec always kills my C# built binaries thus stops me from using Visual Studio Community. While SharpDevelop works well. |
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I think the reason for that is because Visual Studio replaces the
executable instead of deleting it. Thus the executable has changed.
Executables aren't supposed to change according to heuristics.
…On Mon, Jan 7, 2019, 1:05 AM Yang Lei ***@***.*** wrote:
In my case the company's built in antivirus Symantec always kills my C#
built binaries thus stops me from using Visual Studio Community. While
SharpDevelop works well.
It's why I use SharpDevelop.
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@Ayperor it could be. because it is always killed from the second run. |
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I am the last to suggest Microsoft, but if you really want to use it. You
can keep an explorer window open to the build folder, and delete the exe
before building again. I had this issue years ago with VS6 and my
antivirus. That was my work around.
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killed from the second run.
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@gyoom, thank you very much indeed for reviving the project. So far it's working very well! I am using Win7 Pro 64-bit. |
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Thank you guys, for SharpDevelop. I have used it and seen it saving startups. (y) |
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In the past - I had come across SharpDevelop many times, but I was using Visual Studio and was quite content. Now - I was using the bloated, system demanding, daily updating Visual Studio (you'd think they would get a version that would work), and now I'm using SharpDevelop. During one of the many updates, that MS is always issuing for VS 2017, the system picked up a Trojan Horse! This was picked up during a software initiated update. No, it was not a false positive. Well, that was the final straw! I uninstalled VS2017, got the system cleaned up, and installed SharpDevelop. I love SharpDevelop! It's compact, fast, and easy to use. Thanks Guys, for a Wonderful IDE! Thank You, @gyoom! |
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@gyoom there is still a lot of things to do, especially regarding 3rd party tools:
Maybe I can support you in some ways |
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@sharpSteff I will do it soon. |
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@gyoom @sharpSteff you are great. You give hope to hundreds of developers for whom SharpDevelop will remain a great software. Thank you very much and good luck for the future. |
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@gyoom I downloaded your update (5.2.1). Unless I'm mistaken, it seems that NuGet is still at version 2.8. for example if I want to install "Firebird Ado.Net Data Provider" I have the following error message: "Package requires NuGet version 3.6 or above". |
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https://www.nuget.org/packages/NuGet.Core/ |
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I think nuget.core is moved Into some other package.. However in another Project i'm working on (Nukeeper), we are using https://www.nuget.org/packages/NuGet.CommandLine/ to update nuget packages. Maybe a whole new package Implementation is needed |
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I would like to really give a big thanks to the developers of SharpDevlop for their great job and app that still proves its smooth and easy launching and deployment. I tried VS2015,2017, and 2018 and they all make a big load on my laptop. Second, I would like also to thank @gyoom for his effort to update sharpdevelop for release 5.2.1 |
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I just want to say Thank You! You All Are Awesome! |
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Thanks to the team! |
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It was a solid software. All awesome things come to an end, don't they? F |
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Hi guys! I am sharing to you a SharpDevelopWebApi Boilerplate + Vue JShttps://github.com/aspdotnetgabs/sharpdevelopwebapi This is light-weight solid starting point for developing ASP.NET Web API application in portable SharpDevelop. Great for student learning and small projects. Long live SharpDevelop! |
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I am enchanted by your product. It's fast, has a clean design, and powerful while simple. |
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In my opinion, sharpdevelop is much better than vs, because it is much more portalbe and much faster... |
it is not about being greedy, it is about those of us who use PORTABLE APPS on their USB - that is the actual thing that we miss, seriously! I could fuggin put it in my USB stick and take it with me wherever I want to and continue work on anyone's PC, basically - with VS from MS you cannot do that unless you instal it there first which takes FUGGIN LOTS OF FUGGIN TIME!!! |
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@gyoom I'm up for helping out. I've already pulled your repository and made a local branch. Was going to update the .proj file headers to match VS2019. Was also going to update msbuild to VS2019. I've already downloaded and installed all of the microsoft stuff to do it. This may take a little while since I've never seen this code before. We'll see. If you have any work already done or suggestions, let me know. If there's anyone else who has experience with msbuild stuff, I'd appreciate the help. |
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I'm very happy to see how many people love this awesome IDE, I hope that this project will come back someday, who knows? The difference between SD and VS is night and day, loading time and installation size mattered a lot 5 years ago, still some new people can use SD to code in C#, is very lightweight, VS uses too much RAM, I like VS, but I have to admit is too heavy. |
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Hello, it would be good to target it .NET Core 3.1 as it announced that .NET Framework will die with version 4.8 and everything will be unified around .NET 5.0 which will be cross platform. That way we would be on par with VS Code and Visual Studio. Here the link. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-net-5/
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Asunto: Re: [icsharpcode/SharpDevelop] Is the project dead? (#799)
@gyoom<https://github.com/gyoom> I'm up for helping out. I've already pulled your repository and made a local branch. Was going to update the .proj file headers to match VS2019. Was also going to update msbuild to VS2019. I've already downloaded and installed all of the microsoft stuff to do it. This may take a little while since I've never seen this code before. We'll see. If you have any work already done or suggestions, let me know. If there's anyone else who has experience with msbuild stuff, I'd appreciate the help.
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Just so everyone understands, as far as I know, the latest version of MSBuild should support all of the frameworks currently out there. That should include .NET Standard, Framework, and Core. Your target framework is specified in the VS projects files and MSBuild uses that to build and compile your code. That's why I want to update MSBuild and the solution and project file formats as a first step. If anyone knows anything I don't, let me know. I'm still doing research around all of this. Also, I'm not even going to try to go cross platform at this point. SD is not at the moment and it would be a huge task rewriting it to be cross platform. For starters, it's using .NET Framework 4.5 which is Windows only. Just switching it to Core would be a big rewrite. |
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@dgrunwald @mrward If you are thinking of putting sharpdevelop for linux and mac, I can send you a tutorial on generating installers on that OS. My mother tongue Portuguese |
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Hi Daniel, |
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I'm grateful for SharpDevelop, especially as it now seems to be the only alternative to Visual Studio. I'm just starting with it but have already learned something about the code structure and project files, from the software and from a secondhand Stephen Walther book considered (at least once) to be the Bible on the topic. (MonoDevelop gets good reviews but appears to have no installer for Windows and can only be built from source. The prerequisites list Visual Studio as a requirement...and I thought the object was to avoid having to use that!) |
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I don't suppose anyone can point me to a manual for SharpDevelop? I can't find anything on line and have had lots of problems with its virtual directories and handling of "code behind", basically because I'm a relative beginner with web coding who doesn't know the software and whose knowledge doesn't extend far beyond "Classic ASP"... A URL would be really great if everything hasn't already been taken down. |
2001 i think C# launched |
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I am looking for a modern day fork of SharpDevelop as I want something newer than what SharpDevelop supports. I want something as light as SharpDevelop, as VS 2019 takes up a lot of space, and to use the community version there is a 30 day trial. But to extend it you need to sign into a Microsoft account. |
Try Visual Studio Code https://code.visualstudio.com/ |
Visual Studio Code is an editor, not IDE. And it's not exactly lightweight. |
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Please don't kill SharpDevelop, i love how much portable it is!