THE EXCLUSIVE DEVILFISH INTERVIEW
Sportinglife's feature writer Dave Lloyd brings our poker fans another exclusive, a chat with one of the biggest names on the European poker circuit Dave 'Devilfish' Ulliot. Devilfish - who has a huge fan base across America as well - was full of good stories as per usual.
DAVID LLOYD : Hi Dave, where are you?
DEVILFISH: I'm at home with the wife for the day before heading off to Monte Carlo in the morning
I was in London last night for a gig at the Theatre Royal
Roland Gift from the Fine Young Cannibals picked me up at Kings Cross
it was a great night
Ronnie Wood was playing and Mick Jagger got up to sing a couple of numbers
LLOYD: Sounds like a good night, I'm surprised you got home ;-) The last time I spoke to you, you were just going out for a drink with Jimmy White
was he wearing the brown suit? ;-)
DEVIL: We're gonna start calling him brown ball Jimmy
I was down in Derby watching him play and he kept losing on the brown ball
LLOYD: Now, I'm only guessing but, assuming you had a miss spent childhood ;-) what's your highest break and has Jimmy ever given you a game?
DEVIL: My highest break is 73 but it'd be a waste of time playing Jimmy
I'd end up spending all my time fishing balls out of the pockets.
LLOYD: I'm buying
what's yours?
DEVIL: I'll have a vodka thanks.
LLOYD: I was going to ask you about the early days
pre Late Night Poker and before your first big tournament wins
where were you playing in those days?
DEVIL: Well, I've been playing since I was 17
it was all local games at first, then after a while, you can't get a game anywhere, no one wants to play you
those games dry up so you start going further afield
you know how it is
Leeds, Nottinham, Derby, London and then Vegas.
LLOYD: There must be a few good stories there though?
DEVIL: Did I tell how I lost a friends car? We used to play with a guy called Johnny Dunn in a room above a restaurant
Johnny was a gambler
you couldn't stop him. Anyway, the game was strip deck stud poker and I was all-in with a card to come, head's up with Johnny Dunn. Johnny wants to know if I've got any more money, "I've got me mate's car" I said. "How much is it worth?" he asked. "I don't know
about two grand" I said. "Ok", says Johnny, "Stick that in!"
So he throws two grand into the pot and I chuck in the keys
There are twelve cards left in the deck and only one of them will win it for him. Of course, the 11/1 shot came off and I was on the phone to my mate in the morning, asking him how much he wanted for the car he didn't even know he was selling ;-)
LLOYD: I know you had a few good results at the Vic, as long ago as 1993 and you won an event at the Four Queens on your first trip to Vegas in 97
when did you start hitting the tournament circuit on a regular basis?
DEVIL: Around 96
and by 97 I'd won a bracelet at the World Series in the pot limit hold 'em event. I should have had a few more of them by now
I think I've come second on about five other occasions
I went out in two of them holding aces
LLOYD: That's unlucky
you need those to stand up
DEVIL: I come from an unlucky family
my great grandfather was marooned on a desert island without food and water for three months until the Titanic picked him up!
LLOYD: lol
It's only money
.you can't eat the trophies ;-)
DEVIL: Right
money's just the tool of the trade
I've never sat back and thought, well I've got this amount of money now
or anything like that.
I remember a time when Mansour Matloubi said I should sit down and play Lyle Berman, heads up pot limit Omaha. Apparently Lyle liked to bust gamblers playing head to head
I went to my box and I had about $250,000 in the tank but this was a big game
$100,000 sit down
that was a lot of money to me
It was basically two pops and you're broke
there aren't many young guys who are gonna do that
risk everything they've got. Anyway I sat down and Mansour reckoned I could have taken him for a million but by the time I was $168,000 in front Lyle stood up and said "That's enough"
I'd got inside his head and he knew it
LLOYD: Didn't Mansour have something to do with your deal with Ultimatebet?
DEVIL: Yeah, he'd been talking to Russ Hamilton and knew they were looking to get involved with a European player
he suggested me to Russ, I'd just won the World Series bracelet and one thing led to another
LLOYD: How did the deal work?
DEVIL: Well they offered me 1% of the company and I said yes
if they go public in the next few months, my end might be worth $1.5 million
can't be bad
LLOYD: Yep
hard way to make an easy living ;-) Apart from the logos and promotions, do you play online at Ultimatebet as part of the deal?
DEVIL: Yeah, I play there 8 hours a week
usually just the $2-$4 or $5-$10 no limit hold'em, sometimes the pot limit Omaha
Observers can talk to me and ask questions in the chat box
anyone looking can find me by using the player tracking software
just type in my name and if I'm playing, it'll take you to my table.
LLOYD: It's amazing how quickly everything changed
one minute we're all underground, the next thing
there's poker on TV all week, John Lewis are selling poker chips and the players are all involved in sponsorship deals
You were telling me the other day about your upcoming DVD
anything else in the pipeline?
DEVIL: The DVD's out now
I tried to have a bit of fun with it
I hope people will like it
I've been working with a company in Manchester called Sambro International
we've produced a range of poker chip sets, tables and cards all with the Devilfish red logo on them
I was very keen to make sure everything we produced was of the highest quality and I think we've done that
LLOYD: I take it the DVD focuses on no limit hold'em tournaments?
DEVIL: Yes, but we're working on an Omaha one next.
LLOYD: Ok, changing the subject briefly, everyone knows, you like to pick up a guitar from time to time
do you take one with you on your travels or do you just grab whatever's at hand?
DEVIL: I usually just grab whatever's at hand
LLOYD: How many guitars do you have at home and what are they?
DEVIL: I've got a Paul Reid Smith (the one that Carlos Santana plays) and a mega boogie amp. I've also got a BB King Lucille special that I bought when I was down in Tunica, a Yamaha acoustic and a Gibson flying V. I've just bought an electric grand piano and I've got it set up in here
Hang on a minute
I'll play you something
(At this point the Devilfish puts the phone to one side, wanders over to the piano and gives me a one minute recital on the piano, complete with drums, strings and a lead vocal. It was only over the phone but it sounded pretty good
not bad for a poker player
you don't get a song out of Negreanu or Trumper you know ;-)
LLOYD: Hey, I'm impressed
did you ever play in a band?
DEVIL: I've been writing some songs and we might even get a record out at some point
I played in a band at school but we broke up when me and one of the other guys got into a dispute over a girl
usual thing
musical differences ;-)
LLOYD: It's no secret that you've got more one liner's than Bernard Manning
who are your favourite comedians?
DEVIL: Barny (Boatman) reckons I've got more one liners than a Colombian drug lord
Actually, I don't mind Bernard
the guy I've seen recently that I liked is Peter Kay from Phoenix Nights
he's good.
LLOYD: I think Barny might have borrowed that line from someone else ;-) Going back to the poker, congratulations on the win at the French Poker Open in Deauville
DEVIL: Yeah thanks
it wasn't bad
191 runners and just under $50,000 for the first prize.
LLOYD: I see you made the money in Jack Binion's WPT event in Tunica
.
DEVIL: Well, I was disappointed with that really
I've got two bracelets from there and I was hoping to get another. I got close in the big one
about 30th
I wasn't winning the coin flips though, I must have had five of them at crucial stages and lost them all. If you can't win them
you can't win anything.
LLOYD: You must be considered a regular down there by now
what's it like?
DEVIL: I love it there, they really look after me. They have bands playing in both casino's
I like to get up there with em and play
Memphis is just down the road
about an hours drive but when you've got your feet up in the back of a limo sipping champagne
who cares ;-)
LLOYD: Ever fancy going to warmer climbs like Melbourne in January
I'm surprised Marcel hasn't talked you into it yet?
DEVIL: Australia's not big enough
they don't get enough runners yet and the cash games are too small
maybe if they changed the dates or something
I'd rather be in Tunica
they've got the biggest Omaha cash games in the world there.
Even though I was disappointed in the tournament I had a nice result in one of the side games. I wandered over to one of them and sat down
Donnacha and some of the boys were in the game
I stuck twenty grand down and turned it into $65,000
another guy sat down with $5000
didn't know what he was doing but somehow managed to spin that up to $65,000
eventually he put it all in against me and doubled me up to $130,000
I got up with $110k profit
it was as good as a high place in the main event!
LLOYD: No wonder you like it there
can I have ten percent of you next time ;-) Going back to your man, Marcel
You both get trapped in an elevator
who starts singing first?
DEVIL: He does
I'd be too busy trying to keep me trousers up ;-)
LLOYD: lol
You manage to find yourself on a slow boat to China, hosting the liveliest poker games known to mankind. Who would you want with you for company and why?
DEVIL: Well
Angelina Jolie obviously
then Marcel, Trumper, the Hendon Mob, Micky Wernick, Duthie, Hellmuth, Alan Betson, Dave Coleclough and his wife because he's a nice kid and she's easy on the eye
have I forgotten anyone
Carlo when he gets untagged and everyone else who likes a good laugh
LLOYD: Onboard, they've organised a charity karaoke night, you have to sing or forfeit $10,000
Up before you, John Duthie sang Lucky Man', Daniel Negreanu crooned To All the Girls I've Loved Before' and Scott Gray belted out Won't Get Fooled Again'. Marcel came on after the break and sang five numbers, Simon Trumper did My Way' and they had a whip round to pay Joe Beevers NOT to sing
..what's your big number?
DEVIL: Well
it'd have to be Devil in Disguise' wouldn't it
I started Bruce Atkinson off on the Elvis thing
We were in Amsterdam and they'd got him dressed up in the full Elvis rig to sing a number at the final table
He gets most of the way through the number, standing on the table and with about 20 words to go
his legs give way and guess who he falls on
Yeah me
his wig's half off and his head's down by my zipper
I hold him down there, pick up the microphone and finish off the song for him!
LLOYD: lol
there must be photo's out there
Ok an Elvis number it is
and for the encore?
DEVIL: Knockin' on Heaven's Door
LLOYD: lol
the Devil knocking on heavens door
I wonder if the you'd get in? Staying on the subject, what was the last album you bought?
DEVIL: Well I bought one that I'd lost
it was the Fine Young Cannibals
a greatest hits compilation
LLOYD: Your desert island favourites Tell me three songs you'd have to take with you?
DEVIL: Any three by Roland Gift
LLOYD: And your top three favourite movies?
DEVIL: Once Upon a Time in America', Heat' and A Fish Called Wanda'
that still cracks me up when I see it
LLOYD: Your favourite line of movie dialogue?
DEVIL: Ah
Edward G Robinson in the Cincinnati Kid
"You're good, kid, but as long as I'm around, you're only second best."
LLOYD: Sports betting
Proposition bets
do you still have a flutter?
DEVIL: I'm barred from all the bookmakers
Joe Beevers will tell you. He used to do all my bets for me
one year at Ascot I backed all six winners on the day, one was at 14/1 and another was 20/1
if I'd had an accumulator, I'd have won over a million! Blue Square got in touch with Joe and it went on all the news groups
he had to tell them the bets weren't his
LLOYD: And the prop bets?
DEVIL: I flew into California with Surindar (Sunar) one day and we're waiting for the bags to come through on the conveyor belt
.Well, like two sick gamblers, we couldn't resist a bet on who's bag would come through first
his came through and mine wasn't even on the plane!
LLOYD: lol
He might have arranged it that way ;-)
DEVIL: Yeah
probably had one of his relations in Vegas, packing the bags to LAX ;-)
LLOYD: Back to poker again
I don't need to ask you this but the readers won't all know. Cash game, dealer's choice, your button What are we playing?
DEVIL: Four card Omaha
you can do a lot of work with the button in Omaha
you can get them off a hand!
LLOYD: If you could pick up any card room in the world and plonk it back down within a ten minute stroll from your home, which one would it be?
DEVIL: Tunica
they just have the best cash games.
LLOYD: You're never short of a few words at the table
who would you say is the biggest talker in poker?
DEVIL: Sam Grizzle
he's funny
and Padraig (Parkinson)
he's got a grease nipple on his chin because his jaw never stops moving ;-)
LLOYD: Tunica one week, Monte Carlo the next, then on to Vegas
Do you ever get a spare Saturday in the house just to put your feet up with a cocoa and watch the racing?
DEVIL: No, I don't get enough time at home
when I'm here the wife looks after me and the kids have all their friends round
it's like Disneyland in here
I've got my snooker room and the music
LLOYD: And Vegas
now the WSOP has moved from the Horseshoe
are you looking forward to playing in the Rio?
DEVIL: I liked the Horseshoe when Benny was there
they were good to me
people don't know it but they did have some really nice rooms there
and I like the old town.
LLOYD: I'm running a book on the numbers for the main event this year (winner gets $10!!!). John Duthie put in a bid at a pessimistic 2000, Daniel Negreanu predicts 5378, Simon Trumper has gone for 3600 and Marcel has gone for something nearer the 6000 mark
Bearing in mind that you have a chance to beat Marcel out of ten bucks
how many will stump up the buy-in this year?
DEVIL: 7000
LLOYD: Where are you staying this year?
DEVIL: I was just on the phone earlier trying to book a room at the Rio but it was engaged. If I don't stay there, I'll stay at the Belaggio but I like to be where the action is
if a game gets going, they can just ring your room and you can get right down
LLOYD: Have you planned an arrival date yet?
DEVIL: June 2nd
you have to get out there early before all the easy money's gone broke.
LLOYD: With the tournament circuit getting bigger than ever, are you playing as much as you used to in the side games or are you trying to get some rest between events?
DEVIL: I'm playing in as many side games as I ever did
Roy the Boy had said on TV, I wasn't playing in the cash games anymore, which was strange since he'd been in the same game as me the night before
LLOYD: Well
so much to say, but so little said ;-) On a more serious topic, I've appointed you captain of the English Poker Team. Do we award the players Caps' (like in football), Kiss Me Quick Hats' or Monogrammed Hankies' (with knots tied in the four corners)?
DEVIL: Looking at most of the English players, I'd say we'd better put big D's on pointy hats ;-)
LLOYD: In one sentence or three words, what's the best advice you could give to someone just starting out in poker?
DEVIL: Wait for good starting hands!
LLOYD: And if you're gonna sit down to eat with the Devil, you'd better bring a long fork ;-) Thanks for the chat Dave, see you at the World Series!
DEVIL: Likewise
my pleasure.
From the end of July, Devilfish branded poker sets and tables will be available online direct from his own site http://www.thedevilfish.com/. The DVD will be available from the end of April. They do 4 different high quality chip sets
100 piece, 200 piece, a 300 piece and a 500 piece
they come in a choice of metal or wooden cases. The 500 piece set comes complete with the Devil's own DVD as an added extra. Also available are three different poker tables at varying prices
from a well priced table top table, right up to a full size oak affair like you'd find in any casino. All of these come with the red Devilfish logo in the middle of the felt as do the playing cards and poker chips.
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