WEBVTT 00:00:19.219 --> 00:00:20.320 GOOD MORNING. I'D LIKE TO CALL 00:00:20.387 --> 00:00:22.222 TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE 00:00:22.288 --> 00:00:23.189 SENATE STANDING COMMITTEE ON 00:00:23.256 --> 00:00:24.224 PUBLIC SAFETY FOR TUESDAY, 00:00:24.290 --> 00:00:27.160 AUGUST 11TH, 2026. WE DO NOT 00:00:27.227 --> 00:00:28.194 YET HAVE A QUORUM, ALTHOUGH 00:00:28.261 --> 00:00:29.729 WE'RE AWAITING MEMBERS TO JOIN 00:00:29.796 --> 00:00:30.964 US. I ASK THAT ALL MEMBERS 00:00:31.030 --> 00:00:35.068 PLEASE COME TO ROOM 2210 21 Þ 00:00:35.135 --> 00:00:36.236 STREET SO WE CAN ESTABLISH 00:00:36.302 --> 00:00:38.204 QUORUM AND CONDUCT BUSINESS. WE 00:00:38.271 --> 00:00:39.339 HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THIS 00:00:39.406 --> 00:00:42.242 MORNING'S AGENDA. ITEM ONE AB 00:00:42.308 --> 00:00:43.977 1830 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER 00:00:44.043 --> 00:00:45.845 PETRIE-NORRIS AND FILE ITEM TWO 00:00:45.912 --> 00:00:48.314 AB 2796 BY THE ASSEMBLY 00:00:48.381 --> 00:00:52.385 COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY. AND 00:00:52.452 --> 00:00:54.120 THAT IS NOT A CONSENT ITEM 00:00:54.187 --> 00:00:55.388 ANYMORE. OH NO IT IS. AND THAT 00:00:55.455 --> 00:00:57.257 IS A CONSENT ITEM. SO WHEN WE 00:00:57.323 --> 00:00:59.159 ESTABLISH A QUORUM, A MOTION ON 00:00:59.225 --> 00:01:01.027 THE ONE CONSENT ITEM. AND 00:01:01.094 --> 00:01:03.830 BEFORE WE TAKE UP ITEM ONE, 00:01:03.897 --> 00:01:05.598 JUST TO SUMMARIZE OUR PUBLIC 00:01:05.665 --> 00:01:08.835 COMMENT PROCESS, EACH AUTHOR 00:01:08.902 --> 00:01:11.070 HAS DESIGNATED TWO PRINCIPAL 00:01:11.137 --> 00:01:12.605 WITNESSES TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT 00:01:12.672 --> 00:01:13.907 OF THEIR BILL, AND THEY'LL EACH 00:01:13.973 --> 00:01:15.642 HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE 00:01:15.708 --> 00:01:17.110 COMMITTEE ON THE BILL, AFTER 00:01:17.177 --> 00:01:18.244 WHICH TIME WE'LL INVITE ANY 00:01:18.311 --> 00:01:19.646 OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO 00:01:19.712 --> 00:01:21.147 WISH TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE 00:01:21.214 --> 00:01:22.916 BILL, AND YOUR TESTIMONY IS 00:01:22.982 --> 00:01:23.983 LIMITED TO STATE YOUR NAME, 00:01:24.050 --> 00:01:25.151 ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ON 00:01:25.218 --> 00:01:27.053 THE BILL. WE WILL NOT TAKE ANY 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:28.688 OTHER EXTEMPORANEOUS TESTIMONY. 00:01:28.755 --> 00:01:30.089 AFTER WHICH TIME WE'LL INVITE 00:01:30.156 --> 00:01:31.524 TWO PRINCIPAL OPPOSITION 00:01:31.591 --> 00:01:32.892 WITNESSES. THOSE OPPOSITION 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:34.594 WITNESSES MUST HAVE RECORDED 00:01:34.661 --> 00:01:36.596 THEIR OPPOSITION BY SUBMITTING 00:01:36.663 --> 00:01:38.364 WRITTEN TESTIMONY IN THE PORTAL 00:01:38.431 --> 00:01:40.233 PRIOR TO TODAY'S HEARING. AND 00:01:40.300 --> 00:01:41.334 THEN WE'LL INVITE MEMBERS OF 00:01:41.401 --> 00:01:42.302 THE PUBLIC TO EXPRESS 00:01:42.368 --> 00:01:43.536 OPPOSITION. ONCE AGAIN, YOU'RE 00:01:43.603 --> 00:01:44.838 LIMITED TO STATE YOUR NAME, 00:01:44.904 --> 00:01:45.872 ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ON 00:01:45.939 --> 00:01:47.307 THE BILL. WE THANK YOU FOR 00:01:47.373 --> 00:01:49.175 JOINING US TODAY. AND WITH THAT, 00:01:49.242 --> 00:01:50.376 WE'LL PROCEED TO FILE ITEM ONE 00:01:50.443 --> 00:01:55.682 AB 1830. AND IF THERE ARE ANY 00:01:55.748 --> 00:01:57.083 PRINCIPAL WITNESSES, YOU'RE 00:01:57.150 --> 00:01:59.853 WELCOME TO JOIN US HERE AT THE 00:01:59.919 --> 00:02:04.290 TABLE HERE. AND GOOD MORNING. 00:02:04.357 --> 00:02:07.193 GOOD MORNING, MISTER CHAIR, AND 00:02:07.260 --> 00:02:09.295 MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M 00:02:09.362 --> 00:02:10.430 HONORED TO JOIN YOU THIS 00:02:10.497 --> 00:02:11.865 MORNING TO PRESENT ASSEMBLY 00:02:11.931 --> 00:02:14.400 BILL 1830, A MEASURE THAT WILL 00:02:14.467 --> 00:02:16.503 HELP PREVENT DRUNK DRIVING 00:02:16.569 --> 00:02:18.671 TRAGEDIES BEFORE THE CAR EVEN 00:02:18.738 --> 00:02:21.541 STARTS. DRUNK DRIVING IS AN 00:02:21.608 --> 00:02:23.676 EPIDEMIC ACROSS AMERICA. EVERY 00:02:23.743 --> 00:02:27.714 DAY, DRUNK DRIVERS KILL 37 00:02:27.780 --> 00:02:30.583 AMERICANS, AND SADLY, 00:02:30.650 --> 00:02:32.085 CALIFORNIA IS THE EPICENTER OF 00:02:32.151 --> 00:02:34.888 THIS CRISIS, WITH EIGHT OF THE 00:02:34.954 --> 00:02:38.124 TEN DEADLIEST CITIES FOR DUIS 00:02:38.191 --> 00:02:39.959 RIGHT HERE IN THE STATE OF 00:02:40.026 --> 00:02:42.128 CALIFORNIA. THESE ARE 00:02:42.195 --> 00:02:43.897 PREVENTABLE DEATHS. AND AS I 00:02:43.963 --> 00:02:45.665 SAID, THE MEASURE BEFORE US 00:02:45.732 --> 00:02:47.901 WILL HELP TO SAVE LIVES WITH 00:02:47.967 --> 00:02:50.303 EVERY START. WHAT'S IN FRONT OF 00:02:50.370 --> 00:02:52.539 YOU TODAY IS THE PRODUCT OF 00:02:52.605 --> 00:02:54.340 MONTHS OF TECHNICAL 00:02:54.407 --> 00:02:56.476 NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DMV AND 00:02:56.543 --> 00:02:58.611 THE ADMINISTRATION TO BUILD A 00:02:58.678 --> 00:03:01.514 PROGRAM THAT WORKS AT STATEWIDE 00:03:01.581 --> 00:03:04.083 SCALE. FOR NEARLY TWO DECADES, 00:03:04.150 --> 00:03:05.451 COLLEAGUES IN THE LEGISLATURE 00:03:05.518 --> 00:03:06.920 HAVE ATTEMPTED TO PASS SOME 00:03:06.986 --> 00:03:09.556 VERSION OF THIS BILL, INCLUDING 00:03:09.622 --> 00:03:12.358 THREE YEARS OF EFFORT THAT I 00:03:12.425 --> 00:03:14.127 HAVE, THAT I HAVE BEEN DOING 00:03:14.193 --> 00:03:15.562 ALONGSIDE MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES. 00:03:15.628 --> 00:03:17.363 I DO BELIEVE THAT WITH YOUR 00:03:17.430 --> 00:03:19.132 HELP AND WITH THE SHARED 00:03:19.198 --> 00:03:22.368 COMMITMENT OF OUR COMMITTEES 00:03:22.435 --> 00:03:23.836 AND THE LEGISLATURE, THAT WE'LL 00:03:23.903 --> 00:03:25.872 BE ABLE TO GET THIS BILL TO THE 00:03:25.939 --> 00:03:26.806 GOVERNOR'S DESK AND MAKE 00:03:26.873 --> 00:03:28.174 CALIFORNIA'S ROADS SAFER. I AM 00:03:28.241 --> 00:03:29.876 GOING TO GO INTO A FAIR BIT OF 00:03:29.943 --> 00:03:31.077 DETAIL ABOUT THE BILL, JUST 00:03:31.144 --> 00:03:32.812 BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S BEEN 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:34.247 QUITE A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND 00:03:34.314 --> 00:03:36.115 SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THE 00:03:36.182 --> 00:03:38.318 MEASURE BEFORE US DOES. SO THE 00:03:38.384 --> 00:03:40.720 BILL BEFORE US REPLACES A 00:03:40.787 --> 00:03:42.555 LIMITED, REPEATEDLY EXTENDED 00:03:42.622 --> 00:03:44.657 PILOT PROGRAM WITH ONE 00:03:44.724 --> 00:03:47.293 PERMANENT STATEWIDE ID IGNITION 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:49.395 INTERLOCK DEVICE PROGRAM. THIS 00:03:49.462 --> 00:03:51.230 CONSOLIDATES YEARS OF 00:03:51.297 --> 00:03:52.999 OVERLAPPING AND SOMETIMES 00:03:53.066 --> 00:03:54.834 CONFLICTING STATUTES INTO A 00:03:54.901 --> 00:03:57.370 SINGLE, COHERENT FRAMEWORK. AS 00:03:57.437 --> 00:03:58.771 IT WAS PASSED OUT OF THIS 00:03:58.838 --> 00:04:00.173 COMMITTEE LAST YEAR. THE 00:04:00.239 --> 00:04:01.641 MEASURE REQUIRES AN IGNITION 00:04:01.708 --> 00:04:03.476 INTERLOCK DEVICE FOR EVERY 00:04:03.543 --> 00:04:05.979 ALCOHOL INVOLVED DUI CONVICTION, 00:04:06.045 --> 00:04:07.380 INCLUDING FIRST TIME OFFENDERS. 00:04:07.447 --> 00:04:09.248 THIS ALIGNS CALIFORNIA POLICIES 00:04:09.315 --> 00:04:11.384 WITH 35 OTHER STATES THAT 00:04:11.451 --> 00:04:13.953 ALREADY REQUIRE IDS FOR ALL 00:04:14.020 --> 00:04:16.022 CONVICTED DRUNK DRIVERS. THE 00:04:16.089 --> 00:04:18.224 BILL EXPANDS AND BETTER TARGETS 00:04:18.291 --> 00:04:19.292 CALIFORNIA'S FINANCIAL 00:04:19.359 --> 00:04:21.094 ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, SO THAT 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:23.630 COST IS NOT A BARRIER TO 00:04:23.696 --> 00:04:25.064 COMPLIANCE. THE BILL 00:04:25.131 --> 00:04:26.132 ESTABLISHES A SEPARATE 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:28.668 FRAMEWORK FOR DRUG ONLY DUI 00:04:28.735 --> 00:04:30.770 OFFENSES, RECOGNIZING THAT IDS 00:04:30.837 --> 00:04:33.006 CAN ONLY DETECT ALCOHOL RIGHT 00:04:33.072 --> 00:04:35.108 NOW, NOT DRUGS. THE BILL 00:04:35.174 --> 00:04:36.909 CREATES A CLEAR PATHWAY FOR 00:04:36.976 --> 00:04:38.911 ALCOHOL RELATED DUI OFFENDERS 00:04:38.978 --> 00:04:40.480 TO REMAIN MOBILE FOR ALL 00:04:40.546 --> 00:04:42.715 PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL 00:04:42.782 --> 00:04:44.117 RESPONSIBILITIES. THE BILL 00:04:44.183 --> 00:04:45.585 DECOUPLES THE RUNNING OF THE ID 00:04:45.652 --> 00:04:48.054 TERM FROM COMPLETION OF OTHER 00:04:48.121 --> 00:04:49.889 REINSTATEMENT REQUIREMENTS, 00:04:49.956 --> 00:04:50.990 CREATING AN IMPORTANT 00:04:51.057 --> 00:04:52.191 DISTINCTION BETWEEN FINISHING 00:04:52.258 --> 00:04:54.761 THE ID CLOCK AND ELIGIBILITY 00:04:54.827 --> 00:04:57.096 FOR FULL REINSTATEMENT. AND 00:04:57.163 --> 00:04:59.432 EXPRESSLY RECOGNIZE RECOGNIZES 00:04:59.499 --> 00:05:03.269 AN INDIVIDUAL'S ID TIME SERVED. 00:05:03.336 --> 00:05:06.506 THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE KNOW 00:05:06.572 --> 00:05:09.275 THAT IGNITION INTERLOCK DEVICES 00:05:09.342 --> 00:05:11.811 WORK. THE 35 OTHER STATES IN 00:05:11.878 --> 00:05:15.081 THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE ENACTED 00:05:15.148 --> 00:05:16.182 REQUIREMENTS FOR IGNITION 00:05:16.249 --> 00:05:17.283 INTERLOCK DEVICES FOR FIRST 00:05:17.350 --> 00:05:20.119 TIME OFFENDERS HAVE SEEN DRUG 00:05:20.186 --> 00:05:22.822 OR ALCOHOL RELATED FATALITIES 00:05:22.889 --> 00:05:25.158 AND INJURIES DECLINE. AT THE 00:05:25.224 --> 00:05:27.660 SAME TIME THAT CALIFORNIA HAS 00:05:27.727 --> 00:05:29.529 SEEN THEIR DEATH RATES AND 00:05:29.595 --> 00:05:31.297 INJURY RATES CLIMB AT A 00:05:31.364 --> 00:05:33.032 PRECIPITOUS RATE. BUT IN 00:05:33.099 --> 00:05:36.335 CALIFORNIA ALONE, IN 2023, ID 00:05:36.402 --> 00:05:38.838 STOPPED MORE THAN 30,000 00:05:38.905 --> 00:05:40.707 ATTEMPTS TO START A CAR BY 00:05:40.773 --> 00:05:42.809 SOMEONE WITH A BLOOD ALCOHOL 00:05:42.875 --> 00:05:47.113 CONTENT OF 0.08% OR HIGHER. 00:05:47.180 --> 00:05:49.382 30,000 DOCUMENTED MOMENTS WHERE 00:05:49.449 --> 00:05:51.784 THIS TECHNOLOGY KEPT A DRUNK 00:05:51.851 --> 00:05:54.320 DRIVER OFF OF OUR ROADS. JUST 00:05:54.387 --> 00:05:56.823 THINK OF THE TRAGEDIES THAT 00:05:56.889 --> 00:05:59.058 THESE TECHNOLOGIES HAVE ALREADY 00:05:59.125 --> 00:06:01.494 PREVENTED. THE CDC FINDS THAT 00:06:01.561 --> 00:06:03.663 IDS REDUCE REPEAT DUI OFFENSES 00:06:03.730 --> 00:06:07.100 BY SOME 70%, AND CALIFORNIA DMV 00:06:07.166 --> 00:06:11.270 FOUND THAT IDS ARE 74% MORE 00:06:11.337 --> 00:06:12.638 EFFECTIVE THAN LICENSE 00:06:12.705 --> 00:06:15.208 SUSPENSION ALONE AT REDUCING 00:06:15.274 --> 00:06:17.043 RECIDIVISM AMONGST FIRST TIME 00:06:17.110 --> 00:06:19.445 OFFENDERS. TWO ISSUES HAVE COME 00:06:19.512 --> 00:06:22.048 UP CONSISTENTLY AND STAKEHOLDER 00:06:22.115 --> 00:06:23.116 CONVERSATIONS. SO I WANT TO 00:06:23.182 --> 00:06:24.550 ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE DIRECTLY 00:06:24.617 --> 00:06:26.352 IN THESE OPENING COMMENTS. THE 00:06:26.419 --> 00:06:28.521 FIRST IS MANUFACTURER 00:06:28.588 --> 00:06:29.989 COMPLIANCE. WE HAVE HEARD AND 00:06:30.056 --> 00:06:31.924 TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY CONCERNS 00:06:31.991 --> 00:06:34.660 THAT NOT EVERY CERTIFIED ID 00:06:34.727 --> 00:06:36.462 MANUFACTURER HAS CONSISTENTLY 00:06:36.529 --> 00:06:38.631 COMPLIED WITH EXISTING INCOME 00:06:38.698 --> 00:06:41.134 VERIFICATION AND REDUCED FEE 00:06:41.200 --> 00:06:42.468 REQUIREMENTS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT 00:06:42.535 --> 00:06:44.403 IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT 00:06:44.470 --> 00:06:47.640 CALIFORNIANS CAN ACCESS THE 00:06:47.707 --> 00:06:49.408 ACCESS, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE 00:06:49.475 --> 00:06:51.944 AND BE ABLE TO ACCESS A 00:06:52.011 --> 00:06:53.346 COMPLAINT PROCESS SHOULD A 00:06:53.412 --> 00:06:55.882 PROVIDER FALL SHORT. SECOND IS 00:06:55.948 --> 00:06:57.650 RELATED TO REPORTING AND DATA 00:06:57.717 --> 00:06:58.851 COLLECTION AS INTRODUCED. THIS 00:06:58.918 --> 00:07:00.920 BILL INCLUDED REPORTING 00:07:00.987 --> 00:07:02.722 REQUIREMENTS OF THE DMV 00:07:02.789 --> 00:07:04.157 LANGUAGE THAT WAS CAREFULLY 00:07:04.223 --> 00:07:05.224 NEGOTIATED, IN WHICH WE 00:07:05.291 --> 00:07:08.494 CERTAINLY STAND BY WITH THAT. 00:07:08.561 --> 00:07:09.996 AS I SAID, I BELIEVE THAT THE 00:07:10.062 --> 00:07:11.631 BILL BEFORE US WILL TAKE AN 00:07:11.697 --> 00:07:14.500 IMPORTANT STEP TO MAKE 00:07:14.567 --> 00:07:15.535 CALIFORNIA ROAD SAFER AND TO 00:07:15.601 --> 00:07:17.670 SAVE LIVES IN EVERY COMMUNITY 00:07:17.737 --> 00:07:19.472 ACROSS OUR STATE. I'M REALLY 00:07:19.539 --> 00:07:22.041 HONORED TO BE JOINED TODAY BY 00:07:22.108 --> 00:07:25.645 MY COAUTHOR AND CHAMPION FOR 00:07:25.711 --> 00:07:27.446 CALIFORNIA FAMILIES, SENATOR 00:07:27.513 --> 00:07:30.016 ARCHULETA, WHO WOULD LIKE TO. 00:07:30.082 --> 00:07:31.784 WITH YOUR PERMISSION, MR. CHAIR, 00:07:31.851 --> 00:07:33.219 MAKE A FEW COMMENTS BEFORE WE 00:07:33.286 --> 00:07:35.855 WELCOME OUR. OUR PRIMARY 00:07:35.922 --> 00:07:40.960 WITNESS, SENATOR, IF THAT'S. 00:07:41.027 --> 00:07:48.000 THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR 00:07:48.067 --> 00:07:50.102 AND MEMBERS, I APPRECIATE THE 00:07:50.169 --> 00:07:51.938 OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU 00:07:52.004 --> 00:07:53.339 AS A COLLEAGUE, AS A PRIVATE 00:07:53.406 --> 00:07:55.508 CITIZEN, AS A GRANDFATHER WHO 00:07:55.575 --> 00:07:57.476 LOST HIS DAUGHTER AND MEMBERS 00:07:57.543 --> 00:08:01.647 OF MY FAMILY, THAT TO THIS DAY 00:08:01.714 --> 00:08:03.883 CANNOT EVEN THINK ABOUT EVEN 00:08:03.950 --> 00:08:06.352 GOING FORWARD TO THE NEXT 00:08:06.419 --> 00:08:07.787 CHRISTMAS, BECAUSE IT WAS 00:08:07.854 --> 00:08:09.355 CHRISTMAS EVE WHEN MY SAMANTHA 00:08:09.422 --> 00:08:12.491 WAS KILLED BY A DRUNK DRIVER. 00:08:12.558 --> 00:08:16.495 AND AFTER THEY'VE DRIVEN TWO 00:08:16.562 --> 00:08:18.064 THREE TIMES, WE'RE STILL TRYING 00:08:18.130 --> 00:08:19.966 TO ASCERTAIN THAT. BUT WE KNOW 00:08:20.032 --> 00:08:23.970 THAT PUBLICITY AND AND ASKING 00:08:24.036 --> 00:08:25.371 FOR PEOPLE NOT TO DRINK AND 00:08:25.438 --> 00:08:27.940 DRIVE AND IMPAIRED, WE CAN DO 00:08:28.007 --> 00:08:30.076 THAT FOREVER. BUT WE HAVE A 00:08:30.142 --> 00:08:31.744 SYSTEM. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY 00:08:31.811 --> 00:08:33.312 TO ACTUALLY PUT SOMETHING IN 00:08:33.379 --> 00:08:36.215 THE AUTOMOBILE THAT WILL MAYBE 00:08:36.282 --> 00:08:38.718 SAVE ANOTHER LIFE. THE IGNITION 00:08:38.784 --> 00:08:39.952 INTERLOCK DEVICES. THAT'S WHY 00:08:40.019 --> 00:08:43.055 I'M SUPPORTING ASSEMBLY BILL 00:08:43.122 --> 00:08:44.524 1830, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO 00:08:44.590 --> 00:08:46.459 SUPPORT EVERY BILL, EVERY ISSUE, 00:08:46.525 --> 00:08:47.693 AND EVERY THING THAT WE CAN 00:08:47.760 --> 00:08:50.663 POSSIBLY DO TO STOP THESE DRUNK 00:08:50.730 --> 00:08:52.331 DRIVERS, REPEAT OFFENDERS. 00:08:52.398 --> 00:08:54.901 WE'VE GOT TO AND WE'VE GOT TO 00:08:54.967 --> 00:08:57.136 GIVE OUR JUDGES THE OPPORTUNITY 00:08:57.203 --> 00:08:59.872 TO PLACE THEM IN REHABILITATION. 00:08:59.939 --> 00:09:02.475 IF WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOME 00:09:02.541 --> 00:09:03.542 OPPORTUNITIES TO CHANGE THEIR 00:09:03.609 --> 00:09:05.745 WAYS, I GET THAT. BUT IF THE 00:09:05.811 --> 00:09:07.146 INTERLOCK DEVICE IS THEIR, 00:09:07.213 --> 00:09:08.748 MAYBE THEIR OWN FAMILIES WON'T 00:09:08.814 --> 00:09:11.183 HAVE TO SUFFER. BECAUSE WHEN A 00:09:11.250 --> 00:09:13.619 DRUNK DRIVER KILLS ONE, 00:09:13.686 --> 00:09:15.087 OFTENTIMES THEY KILL THEMSELVES. 00:09:15.154 --> 00:09:17.957 SO WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE LIVES. 00:09:18.024 --> 00:09:20.459 SO I COME BEFORE YOU WITH THE 00:09:20.526 --> 00:09:21.928 SUPPORT THAT I GIVE AND THE 00:09:21.994 --> 00:09:23.796 SUPPORT THAT SO MANY ACROSS 00:09:23.863 --> 00:09:26.332 THIS NATION, AS YOU KNOW, 30 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.034 STATES HAVE ALREADY AGREED THAT 00:09:28.100 --> 00:09:29.435 THIS IS THE WAY TO GO. 00:09:29.502 --> 00:09:31.370 CALIFORNIA SHOULD ALSO BE RIGHT 00:09:31.437 --> 00:09:33.806 THERE WITH THEM. AND I THINK 00:09:33.873 --> 00:09:35.875 THAT ALL OF US CAN LOOK BACK AT 00:09:35.942 --> 00:09:37.376 EACH HOLIDAY WE'VE HAD WITH OUR 00:09:37.443 --> 00:09:39.178 FAMILIES. BUT IMAGINE GETTING A 00:09:39.245 --> 00:09:41.714 PHONE CALL THAT SAYS THERE'S AN 00:09:41.781 --> 00:09:43.950 ACCIDENT. AND THEN IT TOOK TIME 00:09:44.016 --> 00:09:46.319 TO IDENTIFY MY GRANDDAUGHTER, 00:09:46.385 --> 00:09:48.087 AND THEY ONLY COULD DO IT WITH 00:09:48.154 --> 00:09:50.323 A FINGERPRINT. YOU CAN IMAGINE 00:09:50.389 --> 00:09:54.393 THAT WAS I JUST CAN'T I JUST 00:09:54.460 --> 00:09:56.028 CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU THE 00:09:56.095 --> 00:09:57.997 PAIN. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS, 00:09:58.064 --> 00:10:00.066 THAT I'M PROUD OF EVERY SENATOR, 00:10:00.132 --> 00:10:01.901 EVERY ASSEMBLY MEMBER WHO'S 00:10:01.968 --> 00:10:04.370 WILLING TO STAND UP AND MAD IN 00:10:04.437 --> 00:10:05.838 EVERYONE WHO CAN STAND UP AND 00:10:05.905 --> 00:10:06.906 SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO 00:10:06.973 --> 00:10:08.407 SOMETHING ABOUT IT, WE ARE 00:10:08.474 --> 00:10:09.775 DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND 00:10:09.842 --> 00:10:11.711 THIS IS A BIG STEP. AND I KNOW 00:10:11.777 --> 00:10:14.480 THAT THE THE DRUNK DRIVERS, 00:10:14.547 --> 00:10:16.615 EVEN THEMSELVES, WILL REALIZE 00:10:16.682 --> 00:10:18.451 THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR 00:10:18.517 --> 00:10:20.987 HAVING THAT BECAUSE IT IS A WAY 00:10:21.053 --> 00:10:23.456 TO BE PROACTIVE. AND IF WE CAN 00:10:23.522 --> 00:10:25.725 SAVE ONE LIFE, WE'VE DONE OUR 00:10:25.791 --> 00:10:27.526 JOB. BUT IN THIS CASE, WE'LL BE 00:10:27.593 --> 00:10:29.962 SAVING THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS. 00:10:30.029 --> 00:10:31.764 SO THE DEBATE GOES BACK AND 00:10:31.831 --> 00:10:33.532 FORTH, BUT I THINK IT'S TIME 00:10:33.599 --> 00:10:36.035 FOR US TO TAKE ON THIS 00:10:36.102 --> 00:10:38.671 BIPARTISAN ISSUE HEAD ON AND 00:10:38.738 --> 00:10:40.039 SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO 00:10:40.106 --> 00:10:42.208 ALLOW DRUNK DRIVERS ANYMORE. 00:10:42.274 --> 00:10:44.210 WE'RE GOING TO GIVE PEOPLE THE 00:10:44.276 --> 00:10:45.411 OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THEIR 00:10:45.478 --> 00:10:46.946 WAYS, GIVE PEOPLE THE 00:10:47.013 --> 00:10:48.047 OPPORTUNITY TO WHEN THEY TURN 00:10:48.114 --> 00:10:50.216 ON THAT IGNITION, IT'S BECAUSE 00:10:50.282 --> 00:10:53.119 THEY CAN DRIVE SAFELY. THEY ARE 00:10:53.185 --> 00:10:54.787 READY TO HIT THE ROAD, NOT 00:10:54.854 --> 00:10:56.555 DAMAGE THEIR FAMILY OR ANYONE 00:10:56.622 --> 00:10:57.957 ELSE. SO IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT 00:10:58.024 --> 00:11:01.327 WE UNDERSTAND THAT ACROSS 00:11:01.394 --> 00:11:02.361 CALIFORNIA, WE'VE GOT TO 00:11:02.428 --> 00:11:04.430 SUPPORT EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT, 00:11:04.497 --> 00:11:05.931 EVERY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, 00:11:05.998 --> 00:11:07.767 EVERYONE I TALKED TO, HIGHWAY 00:11:07.833 --> 00:11:10.302 PATROL ACROSS THIS NATION. 00:11:10.369 --> 00:11:12.838 EVERYONE IS IN SUPPORT OF SOME 00:11:12.905 --> 00:11:15.341 METHOD, SOME WAY TO DEVIATE 00:11:15.408 --> 00:11:17.109 FROM THIS TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENS 00:11:17.176 --> 00:11:20.012 EVERY HOLIDAY. AND WE JUST HAD 00:11:20.079 --> 00:11:22.848 THE PROMS. YOUNG KIDS WERE 00:11:22.915 --> 00:11:24.683 KILLED. WE JUST HAD A TRAGEDY. 00:11:24.750 --> 00:11:26.118 YOU PICK UP THE PAPER EVERY 00:11:26.185 --> 00:11:28.287 SINGLE DAY. SOMEONE IS KILLED 00:11:28.354 --> 00:11:30.423 BY A DRUNK DRIVER. SO LET'S 00:11:30.489 --> 00:11:31.957 STOP IT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO 00:11:32.024 --> 00:11:33.426 SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S 00:11:33.492 --> 00:11:36.929 WHY I SENATE BILL 1830 IS SO 00:11:36.996 --> 00:11:38.497 VITAL, SO IMPORTANT. AND I 00:11:38.564 --> 00:11:40.466 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, FOR 00:11:40.533 --> 00:11:41.700 ALLOWING ME TO JUMP IN. THANK 00:11:41.767 --> 00:11:44.103 YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR. OKAY. 00:11:44.170 --> 00:11:45.938 BEFORE WE GO TO OUR WITNESS, WE 00:11:46.005 --> 00:11:47.706 DO HAVE A QUORUM. SO IF THE 00:11:47.773 --> 00:11:48.574 COMMITTEE ASSISTANT COULD 00:11:48.641 --> 00:11:51.877 PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SENATORS 00:11:51.944 --> 00:11:55.281 ARE PRESENT. SAY ARDO HERE, 00:11:55.347 --> 00:11:58.150 SATO HERE, CABALLERO. PRESENT. 00:11:58.217 --> 00:11:59.952 CABALLERO. PRESENT. CORTESE 00:12:00.019 --> 00:12:02.455 HERE. CORTESE HERE. PEREZ. 00:12:02.521 --> 00:12:04.390 WIENER. OKAY. THANK YOU AND 00:12:04.457 --> 00:12:05.458 GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR 00:12:05.524 --> 00:12:07.293 JOINING US. AND YOU MAY BEGIN 00:12:07.359 --> 00:12:08.360 YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. 00:12:08.427 --> 00:12:10.029 GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS COLIN 00:12:10.096 --> 00:12:11.430 CAMPBELL. I'M A NATIONAL BOARD 00:12:11.497 --> 00:12:12.965 MEMBER OF MOTHERS AGAINST DRUNK 00:12:13.032 --> 00:12:15.468 DRIVING. AND ON JUNE 12TH, 2019, 00:12:15.534 --> 00:12:17.269 I WAS DRIVING MY FAMILY TO 00:12:17.336 --> 00:12:18.671 JOSHUA TREE FOR A SUMMER 00:12:18.737 --> 00:12:20.139 VACATION. MY 17 YEAR OLD 00:12:20.206 --> 00:12:21.574 DAUGHTER, RUBY, HAD JUST GOTTEN 00:12:21.640 --> 00:12:23.042 A MERIT SCHOLARSHIP TO STUDY AT 00:12:23.109 --> 00:12:24.777 THE ART INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO, 00:12:24.844 --> 00:12:27.346 AND MY SON HART, 14 YEARS OLD. 00:12:27.413 --> 00:12:28.481 HANDSOME, HILARIOUS. HART WAS 00:12:28.547 --> 00:12:29.815 GOING TO SPEND THE WHOLE SUMMER 00:12:29.882 --> 00:12:31.650 DATING GIRLS AND PLAYING VIDEO 00:12:31.717 --> 00:12:34.153 GAMES, AND A DRUNK DRIVER GOING 00:12:34.220 --> 00:12:36.322 90 MILES AN HOUR HIT US AT FULL 00:12:36.388 --> 00:12:38.491 SPEED. DIDN'T TOUCH THE BRAKES. 00:12:38.557 --> 00:12:39.758 I WAS KNOCKED UNCONSCIOUS WHEN 00:12:39.825 --> 00:12:41.594 IT CAME TO. I LOOKED IN THE 00:12:41.660 --> 00:12:42.828 BACK SEAT. I SAW RUBY AND 00:12:42.895 --> 00:12:43.896 HART'S EYES WERE WIDE OPEN. 00:12:43.963 --> 00:12:45.631 THEIR PUPILS WERE PITCH BLACK, 00:12:45.698 --> 00:12:47.199 THEIR NECKS WERE SNAPPED AND 00:12:47.266 --> 00:12:50.035 THEY WERE BOTH DEAD. THE WOMAN 00:12:50.102 --> 00:12:51.804 WHO KILLED MY CHILDREN WAS 00:12:51.871 --> 00:12:53.272 MULTIPLE DUIS. THERE WAS A 00:12:53.339 --> 00:12:54.974 WARRANT OUT FOR HER ARREST FOR 00:12:55.040 --> 00:12:56.475 VIOLATION OF PROBATION FOR A 00:12:56.542 --> 00:12:58.110 PREVIOUS DUI. NOTHING WAS GOING 00:12:58.177 --> 00:12:59.645 TO STOP HER FROM DRINKING AND 00:12:59.712 --> 00:13:00.746 DRIVING THAT NIGHT EXCEPT A 00:13:00.813 --> 00:13:02.982 BILL LIKE AB 1830. WHY WASN'T 00:13:03.048 --> 00:13:04.116 THERE AN INTERLOCK DEVICE IN 00:13:04.183 --> 00:13:06.252 HER CAR? IT WAS BECAUSE A JUDGE 00:13:06.318 --> 00:13:08.454 USED THEIR DISCRETION. I'VE 00:13:08.521 --> 00:13:09.688 BEEN TO PRISON AND I'VE TALKED 00:13:09.755 --> 00:13:11.423 WITH THIS WOMAN. HER NAME IS 00:13:11.490 --> 00:13:12.758 NICOLE PACKER. I SPENT 4.5 00:13:12.825 --> 00:13:14.393 HOURS TALKING WITH HER. SHE'S A 00:13:14.460 --> 00:13:15.561 MOTHER WITH THREE YOUNG 00:13:15.628 --> 00:13:16.695 CHILDREN. SHE STRUGGLED WITH 00:13:16.762 --> 00:13:18.063 DRUG AND ALCOHOL ADDICTION HER 00:13:18.130 --> 00:13:20.266 ENTIRE LIFE. SHE WOULD GIVE 00:13:20.332 --> 00:13:21.700 ANYTHING, ANYTHING IN THE WORLD 00:13:21.767 --> 00:13:24.570 TO HAVE HAD AN ID ID DEVICE IN 00:13:24.637 --> 00:13:26.005 HER CAR TO PREVENT HER FROM 00:13:26.071 --> 00:13:27.773 DRIVING THAT NIGHT, RIGHT? HER 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:30.309 LIFE WAS DESTROYED AS WELL. SO 00:13:30.376 --> 00:13:32.144 INSTEAD OF BEING A MOTHER, NOW 00:13:32.211 --> 00:13:33.546 SHE'S A MURDERER AND SHE'S IN 00:13:33.612 --> 00:13:34.914 PRISON AND HER FAMILY IS 00:13:34.980 --> 00:13:36.415 DESTROYED AND MY FAMILY IS 00:13:36.482 --> 00:13:39.485 DESTROYED. EVERY YEAR, HUNDREDS 00:13:39.552 --> 00:13:41.554 OF CALIFORNIA FAMILIES ARE 00:13:41.620 --> 00:13:42.521 DESTROYED, LIKE MINE AND 00:13:42.588 --> 00:13:45.357 NICOLE'S. AND I WANT YOU ALL TO 00:13:45.424 --> 00:13:47.059 STOP IT. PLEASE. SO PLEASE PASS 00:13:47.126 --> 00:13:48.961 THIS BILL. THANK YOU SO MUCH 00:13:49.028 --> 00:13:50.095 FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO 00:13:50.162 --> 00:13:51.897 VERY MUCH. OKAY. WE'LL INVITE 00:13:51.964 --> 00:13:53.265 ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC 00:13:53.332 --> 00:13:54.466 WHO WISH TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR 00:13:54.533 --> 00:13:56.569 AB 1830 TO PLEASE COME FORWARD 00:13:56.635 --> 00:13:57.670 AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, 00:13:57.736 --> 00:13:58.504 ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ON 00:13:58.571 --> 00:14:02.741 THE BILL. NICOLE WATERMAN, ON 00:14:02.808 --> 00:14:04.009 BEHALF OF THE ORANGE COUNTY 00:14:04.076 --> 00:14:05.244 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND 00:14:05.311 --> 00:14:08.814 SUPPORT. KEVIN GUZMAN WITH THE 00:14:08.881 --> 00:14:09.882 CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION 00:14:09.949 --> 00:14:13.886 IN SUPPORT. CHAIR MEMBERS. MAX 00:14:13.953 --> 00:14:15.221 PERRY ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA 00:14:15.287 --> 00:14:16.455 POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION IN. 00:14:16.522 --> 00:14:19.225 SUPPORT CODY BOYLE ON BEHALF OF 00:14:19.291 --> 00:14:20.226 THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF 00:14:20.292 --> 00:14:22.928 HIGHWAY PATROLMEN AND SUPPORT. 00:14:22.995 --> 00:14:24.430 GOOD MORNING, JUSTIN. ON BEHALF 00:14:24.496 --> 00:14:26.165 OF THE SAFE CALIFORNIA 00:14:26.232 --> 00:14:29.668 COALITION IN SUPPORT. TIM CHANG 00:14:29.735 --> 00:14:31.503 WITH THE AUTO CLUB OF SOUTHERN 00:14:31.570 --> 00:14:35.474 CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. AND MIKE 00:14:35.541 --> 00:14:36.909 CARPENTER ON BEHALF OF TRIPLE A 00:14:36.976 --> 00:14:38.711 OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA IN 00:14:38.777 --> 00:14:41.614 SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 00:14:41.680 --> 00:14:42.781 IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO 00:14:42.848 --> 00:14:45.184 EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR AB 1830? 00:14:45.251 --> 00:14:46.485 SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME FORWARD, 00:14:46.552 --> 00:14:48.420 WE'LL NOW INVITE TO PRINCIPAL 00:14:48.487 --> 00:15:05.371 OPPOSITION WITNESSES. THANK YOU, 00:15:05.437 --> 00:15:08.707 MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS. THANK YOU, 00:15:08.774 --> 00:15:10.075 MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS. GOOD 00:15:10.142 --> 00:15:11.510 MORNING, IGNACIO HERNANDEZ. ON 00:15:11.577 --> 00:15:12.544 BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA 00:15:12.611 --> 00:15:13.646 ATTORNEYS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE 00:15:13.712 --> 00:15:14.713 STATEWIDE ASSOCIATION OF 00:15:14.780 --> 00:15:16.181 CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYERS 00:15:16.248 --> 00:15:17.383 PRIVATE PRACTICE, ALSO WORKING 00:15:17.449 --> 00:15:18.651 IN PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICES. WE 00:15:18.717 --> 00:15:20.886 ARE RESPECTFULLY IN OPPOSITION. 00:15:20.953 --> 00:15:22.221 FIRST, LET ME SAY I HAVE THE 00:15:22.288 --> 00:15:23.355 UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE AUTHOR 00:15:23.422 --> 00:15:24.857 FOR TAKING ON THIS ISSUE AND 00:15:24.923 --> 00:15:26.592 FOR THE WORK ON THIS, AND ALSO 00:15:26.659 --> 00:15:27.660 RESPECT FOR THE WITNESS THAT 00:15:27.726 --> 00:15:29.094 JUST TESTIFIED ABOUT HIS 00:15:29.161 --> 00:15:31.697 FAMILY'S TRAGEDY. OUR 00:15:31.764 --> 00:15:32.731 OPPOSITION TAKES NOTHING AWAY 00:15:32.798 --> 00:15:34.500 FROM HOW MUCH WE RESPECT AND 00:15:34.566 --> 00:15:37.002 UNDERSTAND. THIS IS A VERY 00:15:37.069 --> 00:15:38.270 DIFFICULT ISSUE, AND THERE ARE 00:15:38.337 --> 00:15:40.205 A LOT OF TRAGEDIES THAT ALL OF 00:15:40.272 --> 00:15:42.041 US HAVE FACED IN OUR FAMILIES 00:15:42.107 --> 00:15:43.509 OR WITH OUR FRIENDS, INCLUDING 00:15:43.575 --> 00:15:46.378 MYSELF. THAT BEING SAID, THE 00:15:46.445 --> 00:15:48.180 POLICY MAKING PROCESS ALSO 00:15:48.247 --> 00:15:49.281 REQUIRES US TO NOT ONLY 00:15:49.348 --> 00:15:50.649 CONSIDER THAT, BUT TO LOOK AT 00:15:50.716 --> 00:15:52.484 WHAT WILL BE PERHAPS THE MOST 00:15:52.551 --> 00:15:53.919 EFFECTIVE POLICY. AND IN THE 00:15:53.986 --> 00:15:55.487 INTEREST OF TIME, LET ME JUST 00:15:55.554 --> 00:15:58.657 SAY THREE THINGS. ONE IS 00:15:58.724 --> 00:15:59.792 CALIFORNIA. FLORIDA AND TEXAS 00:15:59.858 --> 00:16:01.860 ARE THE STATES WITH THE MOST 00:16:01.927 --> 00:16:03.996 NUMBER OF DRIVERS. AND SO 00:16:04.063 --> 00:16:06.231 GETTING THE POLICY CORRECT IS 00:16:06.298 --> 00:16:07.266 CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. WE'RE 00:16:07.333 --> 00:16:08.767 CONCERNED THAT THE WAY THE BILL 00:16:08.834 --> 00:16:11.036 IS DRAFTED AND HAVING MANDATORY 00:16:11.103 --> 00:16:14.473 ON EVERY DUI IS GOING TO REACH 00:16:14.540 --> 00:16:16.141 INDIVIDUALS THAT STATISTICALLY 00:16:16.208 --> 00:16:18.444 ARE NOT LIKELY TO REOFFEND. IN 00:16:18.510 --> 00:16:21.680 CALIFORNIA, 96% OF FIRST TIME 00:16:21.747 --> 00:16:23.449 DUI OFFENDERS DO NOT REOFFEND. 00:16:23.515 --> 00:16:25.317 WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR. THAT 00:16:25.384 --> 00:16:27.786 NUMBER HAS BEEN CONSISTENT FOR 00:16:27.853 --> 00:16:29.855 YEARS, AND ONE OF THE REASONS 00:16:29.922 --> 00:16:31.457 WHY WE HAVE POSED A STATEWIDE 00:16:31.523 --> 00:16:33.158 MANDATE ON FIRST TIME OFFENSES. 00:16:33.225 --> 00:16:35.027 CURRENT LAW ALLOWS A JUDGE TO 00:16:35.094 --> 00:16:36.462 IMPOSE AN ID ON A FIRST TIME 00:16:36.528 --> 00:16:37.529 OFFENSE BASED ON THE 00:16:37.596 --> 00:16:38.964 CIRCUMSTANCES OF THAT SPECIFIC 00:16:39.031 --> 00:16:40.065 CASE. WE BELIEVE THAT IS A 00:16:40.132 --> 00:16:42.234 BETTER POLICY IF THERE IS GOING 00:16:42.301 --> 00:16:43.869 TO. AND I SHOULD ALSO MENTION 00:16:43.936 --> 00:16:46.939 THAT BETWEEN 75 AND 85% OF DUI 00:16:47.005 --> 00:16:49.375 FATALITIES IN CALIFORNIA ARE BY 00:16:49.441 --> 00:16:51.577 FIRST TIME OFFENDERS. SO THIS 00:16:51.643 --> 00:16:53.746 BILL WOULD NOT ADDRESS THOSE 00:16:53.812 --> 00:16:55.547 CASES. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF 00:16:55.614 --> 00:16:56.582 SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS IN 00:16:56.648 --> 00:16:57.716 INTEREST OF TIME. I'LL JUST GO 00:16:57.783 --> 00:16:58.917 THROUGH THEM VERY QUICKLY, BUT 00:16:58.984 --> 00:17:00.719 I HOPE WE HAVE A ROBUST 00:17:00.786 --> 00:17:01.787 DISCUSSION. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY 00:17:01.854 --> 00:17:02.788 QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE, WE WOULD 00:17:02.855 --> 00:17:06.458 BE OPEN TO A MANDATE ON FIRST 00:17:06.525 --> 00:17:09.261 TIME OFFENDERS WITH A HIGH BACK 00:17:09.328 --> 00:17:11.363 AND A PRIOR MOVING VIOLATION IN 00:17:11.430 --> 00:17:13.432 THE PAST 2 TO 3 YEARS, 00:17:13.499 --> 00:17:14.633 STATISTICS SHOW. THOSE ARE THE 00:17:14.700 --> 00:17:16.001 FOLKS THAT ARE MOST LIKELY TO 00:17:16.068 --> 00:17:18.871 REOFFEND. NUMBER TWO, WE WOULD 00:17:18.937 --> 00:17:21.407 WANT MORE ROBUST ENFORCEMENT OF 00:17:21.473 --> 00:17:24.676 THE SLIDING FEE SCALE FOR 00:17:24.743 --> 00:17:25.577 INSTALLERS, AND THE PENALTIES 00:17:25.644 --> 00:17:27.579 NEED TO BE INCREASED. NUMBER 00:17:27.646 --> 00:17:29.815 THREE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A 00:17:29.882 --> 00:17:32.251 STUDY OF TO UNDERSTAND WHY 50% 00:17:32.317 --> 00:17:34.720 OF OF DUI ARRESTS IN CALIFORNIA 00:17:34.787 --> 00:17:36.188 CONSISTENTLY ARE LATINO DRIVERS. 00:17:36.255 --> 00:17:37.589 THERE'S SOME DISPROPORTIONATE 00:17:37.656 --> 00:17:38.924 ENFORCEMENT GOING ON. THERE ARE 00:17:38.991 --> 00:17:40.726 A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT 00:17:40.793 --> 00:17:41.994 WE'D BE OPEN TO TO HELP PREVENT 00:17:42.060 --> 00:17:43.762 FIRST TIME OFFENSES, BUT WE 00:17:43.829 --> 00:17:45.564 THINK THE BETTER APPROACH IS TO 00:17:45.631 --> 00:17:47.032 HAVE HIGH B, A C, WHICH IS 00:17:47.099 --> 00:17:49.568 ACTUALLY THE LAW IN FLORIDA. 00:17:49.635 --> 00:17:51.303 TEXAS DOES NOT HAVE A MANDATORY 00:17:51.370 --> 00:17:52.805 ID ON FIRST TIME OFFENSES. SO 00:17:52.871 --> 00:17:54.940 WE THINK WE WOULD MATCH FLORIDA 00:17:55.007 --> 00:17:56.341 AND ACTUALLY HAVE A BETTER 00:17:56.408 --> 00:17:57.609 POLICY. SO I'LL JUST STOP THERE 00:17:57.676 --> 00:18:00.312 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 00:18:00.379 --> 00:18:02.114 GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I'M 00:18:02.181 --> 00:18:04.316 DEPUTY PUBLIC DEFENDER THURMOND 00:18:04.383 --> 00:18:06.418 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE LOCAL 148 00:18:06.485 --> 00:18:07.853 UNION AT THE L.A. COUNTY PUBLIC 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.389 DEFENDER'S OFFICE. AND WE 00:18:10.456 --> 00:18:12.925 RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. 00:18:12.991 --> 00:18:14.059 IT SEEMS THAT THIS BILL IS 00:18:14.126 --> 00:18:15.828 BEING PUSHED UNDER THE 00:18:15.894 --> 00:18:18.330 PRINCIPLE OF PUBLIC SAFETY, 00:18:18.397 --> 00:18:20.799 WHILE NOT ALLOWING FOR THIS ID 00:18:20.866 --> 00:18:24.102 DEVICE TO BE PROVIDED FOR FREE. 00:18:24.169 --> 00:18:26.638 IF IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, 00:18:26.705 --> 00:18:30.242 WHY NOT MAKE IT FREE? AND, YOU 00:18:30.309 --> 00:18:31.443 KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S 00:18:31.510 --> 00:18:33.078 A PART IN THE BILL THAT SAYS 00:18:33.145 --> 00:18:35.013 THAT IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT MORE 00:18:35.080 --> 00:18:36.014 AFFORDABLE, BUT THERE ARE 00:18:36.081 --> 00:18:37.549 PEOPLE WITH NO JOBS, PEOPLE 00:18:37.616 --> 00:18:39.218 THAT CAN'T EVEN AFFORD A CAR 00:18:39.284 --> 00:18:41.386 WHO ARE GOING TO BE SUFFERING 00:18:41.453 --> 00:18:42.821 UNDER THIS RULE, AND NOT 00:18:42.888 --> 00:18:43.922 BECAUSE THEY'RE BAD PEOPLE THAT 00:18:43.989 --> 00:18:46.425 WANT TO REBEL AGAINST IT, BUT 00:18:46.492 --> 00:18:48.527 BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD THE 00:18:48.594 --> 00:18:49.962 CONDITION. AND THAT MEANS THAT 00:18:50.028 --> 00:18:52.531 THE ISSUE IS GOING TO BE THE 00:18:52.598 --> 00:18:54.399 FACT THAT THEY ARE POOR UNDER 00:18:54.466 --> 00:18:57.936 THE CONSTITUTION OF CALIFORNIA, 00:18:58.003 --> 00:18:59.738 LEGISLATORS MUST TAKE NOTICE 00:18:59.805 --> 00:19:01.206 THAT EVEN THOUGH A LAW MAY 00:19:01.273 --> 00:19:02.941 APPEAR NEUTRAL, THEY STILL NEED 00:19:03.008 --> 00:19:04.476 TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT IT 00:19:04.543 --> 00:19:07.312 MAY DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT 00:19:07.379 --> 00:19:08.747 MARGINALIZED PEOPLE HERE BEING 00:19:08.814 --> 00:19:10.449 POOR PEOPLE. AND EVEN THOUGH 00:19:10.516 --> 00:19:11.950 POOR PEOPLE ARE NOT NECESSARILY 00:19:12.017 --> 00:19:14.119 A PROTECTED CLASS, THEY TEND TO 00:19:14.186 --> 00:19:15.554 BE DISPROPORTIONATELY 00:19:15.621 --> 00:19:16.955 REPRESENTED BY BLACK AND BROWN 00:19:17.022 --> 00:19:19.424 PEOPLE. AND SO UNDER THE 00:19:19.491 --> 00:19:20.826 CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION, 00:19:20.893 --> 00:19:22.027 ARTICLE ONE, SECTION SEVEN, A 00:19:22.094 --> 00:19:23.729 PERSON MAY NOT BE DEPRIVED OF 00:19:23.795 --> 00:19:25.230 LIFE, LIBERTY, OR PROPERTY 00:19:25.297 --> 00:19:28.133 WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW OR 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:31.069 DENIED EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE 00:19:31.136 --> 00:19:33.639 LAWS. AND EVEN THOUGH THIS 00:19:33.705 --> 00:19:35.307 APPLIES TO FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS, 00:19:35.374 --> 00:19:36.375 THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT 00:19:36.441 --> 00:19:38.610 DOESN'T APPLY TO PRIVILEGES. SO 00:19:38.677 --> 00:19:40.045 THE LAWS THAT IMPACT THE 00:19:40.112 --> 00:19:41.847 PRIVILEGES OF PEOPLE STILL NEED 00:19:41.914 --> 00:19:44.550 TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR, AND IT IS 00:19:44.616 --> 00:19:46.418 PROTECTED UNDER THE EQUAL 00:19:46.485 --> 00:19:48.253 PROTECTION CLAUSE. THIS BILL 00:19:48.320 --> 00:19:50.088 TAKES AWAY DISCRETION FROM 00:19:50.155 --> 00:19:52.858 JUDGES. JUDGES LOOK AT FACTS OF 00:19:52.925 --> 00:19:54.793 A CASE AND THEY BALANCE THE 00:19:54.860 --> 00:19:56.295 FACTS AND WITH THE FACTS, THEY 00:19:56.361 --> 00:19:57.362 DECIDE WHAT THE PUNISHMENT 00:19:57.429 --> 00:19:59.498 SHOULD BE. WHAT THIS BILL DOES 00:19:59.565 --> 00:20:00.799 IS THAT THE JUDGE IS GOING TO 00:20:00.866 --> 00:20:02.634 LOOK AT PEOPLE, NOT HAVE THAT 00:20:02.701 --> 00:20:04.136 KIND OF POWER AND IMPOSE A 00:20:04.202 --> 00:20:05.571 CONDITION THAT IS GOING TO BE 00:20:05.637 --> 00:20:06.705 IMPOSSIBLE FOR THOSE THAT ARE 00:20:06.772 --> 00:20:08.206 EXTREMELY POOR, TO THE POINT 00:20:08.273 --> 00:20:09.608 WHERE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THIS 00:20:09.675 --> 00:20:10.275 CONDITION, MAKING THEM 00:20:10.342 --> 00:20:12.044 VULNERABLE TO PROBATION 00:20:12.110 --> 00:20:13.211 VIOLATIONS, MAKING THEM 00:20:13.278 --> 00:20:15.681 VULNERABLE TO INCARCERATION, 00:20:15.747 --> 00:20:17.115 NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO 00:20:17.182 --> 00:20:18.684 ABIDE TO THE LAW, BUT BECAUSE 00:20:18.750 --> 00:20:22.521 THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO DO SO, 00:20:22.588 --> 00:20:23.989 DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTING 00:20:24.056 --> 00:20:27.559 THE LIBERTY, THE FREEDOM OF THE 00:20:27.626 --> 00:20:30.495 MARGINALIZED, MARGINALIZING THE 00:20:30.562 --> 00:20:35.100 MARGINALIZED EVEN FURTHER. SO 00:20:35.167 --> 00:20:36.902 ANOTHER THING THAT I BELIEVE 00:20:36.969 --> 00:20:38.704 THIS BILL WILL DO IS THAT 00:20:38.770 --> 00:20:39.871 PUNISHMENT WILL CONTINUE EVEN 00:20:39.938 --> 00:20:41.673 AFTER THEY MAX OUT GOING 00:20:41.740 --> 00:20:42.674 AGAINST THE PRINCIPLE OF 00:20:42.741 --> 00:20:43.709 PUNISHMENT, THAT WHEN SOMEONE 00:20:43.775 --> 00:20:45.277 SERVES THEIR ENTIRE PUNISHMENT, 00:20:45.344 --> 00:20:46.712 THEY SHOULD BE FREE FROM 00:20:46.778 --> 00:20:49.181 FURTHER PUNISHMENT. THIS BILL 00:20:49.247 --> 00:20:51.049 CONTINUES THAT PUNISHMENT. AND 00:20:51.116 --> 00:20:52.718 SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I DO 00:20:52.784 --> 00:20:53.852 BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD THINK 00:20:53.919 --> 00:20:55.654 VERY CRITICALLY ABOUT WHO IS 00:20:55.721 --> 00:20:57.422 GOING TO BE DISPROPORTIONATELY 00:20:57.489 --> 00:21:00.025 IMPACTED IF THIS BILL PASSES. 00:21:00.092 --> 00:21:01.727 AND YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU 00:21:01.793 --> 00:21:03.929 VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE 00:21:03.996 --> 00:21:04.997 WISHING TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION 00:21:05.063 --> 00:21:08.734 TO AB 1830? NATASHA MINSKER, 00:21:08.800 --> 00:21:10.369 SMART JUSTICE CALIFORNIA OPPOSE 00:21:10.435 --> 00:21:16.274 UNLESS AMENDED. MARCO GEORGE, 00:21:16.341 --> 00:21:17.576 ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA 00:21:17.643 --> 00:21:20.145 PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION, 00:21:20.212 --> 00:21:22.014 OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED. THANK 00:21:22.080 --> 00:21:26.284 YOU. RODRIGUEZ WITH THE ACLU, 00:21:26.351 --> 00:21:27.686 CAL ACTION AND STRONG 00:21:27.753 --> 00:21:29.521 OPPOSITION. OKAY. THANK YOU 00:21:29.588 --> 00:21:31.490 VERY MUCH. UNLESS THERE'S 00:21:31.556 --> 00:21:33.458 ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS 00:21:33.525 --> 00:21:34.559 OPPOSITION, I'LL BRING IT BACK 00:21:34.626 --> 00:21:36.695 TO THE DAIS FOR QUESTIONS OR 00:21:36.762 --> 00:21:37.763 COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE 00:21:37.829 --> 00:21:40.198 COMMITTEE WHO WOULD LIKE TO 00:21:40.265 --> 00:21:42.734 BEGIN THE DISCUSSION, SENATOR 00:21:42.801 --> 00:21:49.141 CHAVIRA. I HAVE TO RUN AND TAKE 00:21:49.207 --> 00:21:50.676 A PHONE CALL REAL QUICK, SO I 00:21:50.742 --> 00:21:52.678 WANT TO GET THIS OUT. LET ME 00:21:52.744 --> 00:21:54.079 JUST SAY THAT I'M GOING TO 00:21:54.146 --> 00:21:57.182 START OFF BY SAYING THAT 00:21:57.249 --> 00:21:58.283 DESPITE THE FACT THAT I DID 00:21:58.350 --> 00:22:00.786 CRIMINAL DEFENSE WORK FOR MANY, 00:22:00.852 --> 00:22:05.123 MANY YEARS, I AM VERY 00:22:05.190 --> 00:22:06.958 SYMPATHETIC TO WHAT YOU'RE 00:22:07.025 --> 00:22:11.263 TRYING TO DO HERE. AND, AND MY 00:22:11.329 --> 00:22:13.732 GOOD FRIEND, SENATOR ARCHULETA, 00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:15.167 I WAS THERE WHEN HE GOT THE 00:22:15.233 --> 00:22:17.335 NEWS ABOUT HIS GRANDDAUGHTER. 00:22:17.402 --> 00:22:19.471 AND MY HEART HURTS FOR THE 00:22:19.538 --> 00:22:21.740 ARCHULETA FAMILY. AND QUITE 00:22:21.807 --> 00:22:22.774 FRANKLY, THEIR CHRISTMASES WILL 00:22:22.841 --> 00:22:24.643 NEVER BE THE SAME. THERE'S JUST 00:22:24.710 --> 00:22:29.948 NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. AND I 00:22:30.015 --> 00:22:33.552 RESENT PEOPLE TAKING CLIPS OUT 00:22:33.618 --> 00:22:35.721 OF HEARINGS AND AND TAKING THEM 00:22:35.787 --> 00:22:38.990 OUT OF CONTEXT AND USING THEM 00:22:39.057 --> 00:22:42.494 FOR POLITICAL MEANS. SO I'M 00:22:42.561 --> 00:22:43.995 HESITANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS 00:22:44.062 --> 00:22:45.731 BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WAS 00:22:45.797 --> 00:22:46.965 DONE THE LAST TIME THAT THERE 00:22:47.032 --> 00:22:48.834 WAS A BILL THAT I HAD SOME 00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:50.102 ISSUES WITH. SO HAVING SAID 00:22:50.168 --> 00:22:53.338 THAT, GETTING IT OFF MY CHEST 00:22:53.405 --> 00:22:55.173 THERE, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:58.744 YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE AND, 00:22:58.810 --> 00:23:02.047 BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE, THE 00:23:02.114 --> 00:23:04.282 ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF NOT 00:23:04.349 --> 00:23:06.718 BEING ABLE TO COMPLY WITH A 00:23:06.785 --> 00:23:08.153 PROGRAM THAT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. 00:23:08.220 --> 00:23:11.022 IT'S ONE OF THE PIECES OF THE 00:23:11.089 --> 00:23:13.191 SENTENCING PROCESS THAT COSTS 00:23:13.258 --> 00:23:14.259 WELL, EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY. 00:23:14.326 --> 00:23:15.694 THE FINE COSTS MONEY. IF YOU IF 00:23:15.761 --> 00:23:17.095 YOU'RE SENTENCED TO JAIL, IT 00:23:17.162 --> 00:23:20.398 COSTS YOU MONEY. IF YOU'RE IF 00:23:20.465 --> 00:23:22.567 YOU IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE CLASSES. 00:23:22.634 --> 00:23:24.302 AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY PEOPLE 00:23:24.369 --> 00:23:26.171 SHOULDN'T HAVE TO LEARN AND 00:23:26.238 --> 00:23:27.973 HAVE CONSEQUENCES. IT'S A 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.108 QUESTION OF, CAN WE MAKE IT SO 00:23:30.175 --> 00:23:32.677 THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THE 00:23:32.744 --> 00:23:33.945 RESOURCES DON'T GET CAUGHT UP 00:23:34.012 --> 00:23:37.315 IN THIS CYCLE, WHERE YOU'RE 00:23:37.382 --> 00:23:38.750 PERCEIVED AS BEING UNWILLING TO 00:23:38.817 --> 00:23:40.552 DO THE PROGRAM, YOU'RE 00:23:40.619 --> 00:23:41.620 PERCEIVED TO BE UNWILLING TO 00:23:41.686 --> 00:23:44.222 PAY FOR IT. YOU'RE PERCEIVED IF 00:23:44.289 --> 00:23:46.324 THERE'S A MALFUNCTION, YOU 00:23:46.391 --> 00:23:47.259 OBVIOUSLY WERE MESSING AROUND 00:23:47.325 --> 00:23:48.827 WITH THE MACHINE, WHATEVER THE 00:23:48.894 --> 00:23:50.929 EXCUSES ARE. SO NUMBER ONE IS I 00:23:50.996 --> 00:23:52.097 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE 00:23:52.164 --> 00:23:53.999 DON'T GO TO JAIL IF THEY CAN'T 00:23:54.065 --> 00:23:56.501 DO, IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY 00:23:56.568 --> 00:23:59.271 THE I'D. AND LIKE YOU, I WAS 00:23:59.337 --> 00:24:00.705 CALLING IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT 00:24:00.772 --> 00:24:03.542 THAT. SO I APOLOGIZE IF I USED 00:24:03.608 --> 00:24:07.145 THE OTHER ACRONYM AND THAT. AND 00:24:07.212 --> 00:24:10.448 THEN I'M NOT REALLY SURE. WELL, 00:24:10.515 --> 00:24:13.185 SO I THE JUDICIAL DISCRETION 00:24:13.251 --> 00:24:15.453 FOR THE FIRST TIME, I THINK 00:24:15.520 --> 00:24:19.024 SHOULD BE THERE. BUT THAT'S NOT 00:24:19.090 --> 00:24:20.158 THE BIGGEST CONCERN. THE 00:24:20.225 --> 00:24:21.960 BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE IS OVER 00:24:22.027 --> 00:24:23.762 THE PAYMENT. AND REALLY THE 00:24:23.829 --> 00:24:25.831 STATE SHOULD PAY FOR IT. IF WE 00:24:25.897 --> 00:24:27.032 THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THAT 00:24:27.098 --> 00:24:28.500 EFFECTIVE. AND THE REASON WE 00:24:28.567 --> 00:24:30.669 DON'T IS BECAUSE THEN THAT'S 00:24:30.735 --> 00:24:32.404 BUDGET BAIT AND YOU WON'T GET 00:24:32.470 --> 00:24:34.573 OUT OF IT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT 00:24:34.639 --> 00:24:36.374 COMPLETELY, BUT I THINK WE NEED 00:24:36.441 --> 00:24:39.244 THE THE COMPANY HAS TO TELL WE 00:24:39.311 --> 00:24:44.216 HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO MANAGE WHAT 00:24:44.282 --> 00:24:46.418 COMPANIES ARE ELIGIBLE IN 00:24:46.484 --> 00:24:49.988 CALIFORNIA. AND THEN THEY NEED 00:24:50.055 --> 00:24:52.724 TO THEY NEED TO ADVISE PEOPLE 00:24:52.791 --> 00:24:54.125 THAT ARE INSTALLING THE DEVICE 00:24:54.192 --> 00:24:57.229 THAT THERE'S A PROGRAM. IF THEY 00:24:57.295 --> 00:24:59.331 ARE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE 00:24:59.397 --> 00:25:00.465 RESOURCES THAT CAN HELP THEM 00:25:00.532 --> 00:25:03.702 PAY FOR IT. AND IF THERE'S A 00:25:03.768 --> 00:25:08.039 VIOLATION EITHER. MISSED A 00:25:08.106 --> 00:25:09.808 PAYMENT, MISSED A THE 00:25:09.875 --> 00:25:10.909 CALIBRATION DOESN'T WORK OR 00:25:10.976 --> 00:25:14.512 MISSED A CALIBRATION, OR 00:25:14.579 --> 00:25:15.614 SOMEHOW THEY FALL OFF THE 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:17.182 PROGRAM THAT THERE'S NO FINE OR 00:25:17.249 --> 00:25:18.416 JAIL TIME. I JUST THINK THAT 00:25:18.483 --> 00:25:19.584 THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY 00:25:19.651 --> 00:25:21.286 IMPORTANT. IF WE WANT TO KEEP 00:25:21.353 --> 00:25:23.488 THE SYSTEM HONEST ABOUT REALLY 00:25:23.555 --> 00:25:25.290 BEING AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY 00:25:25.357 --> 00:25:27.125 OF EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THOSE 00:25:27.192 --> 00:25:34.266 THAT HAVE LIMITED MEANS. AND IN 00:25:34.332 --> 00:25:37.168 REGARDS TO THE ROLLING CHECKS, 00:25:37.235 --> 00:25:38.670 THEY'VE GOT TO BE MANAGEABLE. I 00:25:38.737 --> 00:25:43.308 THINK IT'S A GOOD IT'S A GOOD. 00:25:43.375 --> 00:25:45.410 SAFETY MEASURE TO BE ABLE TO 00:25:45.477 --> 00:25:46.745 BLOW IT AT THE BEGINNING. AND 00:25:46.811 --> 00:25:47.946 IF YOU'RE CLEARED, YOU CAN 00:25:48.013 --> 00:25:49.714 DRIVE. AND THEN AS YOU'RE 00:25:49.781 --> 00:25:54.452 DRIVING. TO BE ABLE TO TO IF 00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:56.621 THERE'S A WAY TO CHECK TO MAKE 00:25:56.688 --> 00:25:58.023 SURE YOU'RE STILL THE SAME 00:25:58.089 --> 00:26:00.959 DRIVER TO CHECK, THAT HAS TO BE 00:26:01.026 --> 00:26:02.827 SAFE. AND I HAVEN'T, I DON'T 00:26:02.894 --> 00:26:04.462 KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THAT TO FEEL 00:26:04.529 --> 00:26:05.630 COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT I 00:26:05.697 --> 00:26:08.867 THINK IT'S MAYBE YOU PULL OVER, 00:26:08.934 --> 00:26:10.101 YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN 00:26:10.168 --> 00:26:13.171 ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. I 00:26:13.238 --> 00:26:16.074 LET ME JUST SAY THAT I THINK 00:26:16.141 --> 00:26:20.378 THE IDS CAN BE A TOOL IN THE 00:26:20.445 --> 00:26:22.614 TOOLBOX, BUT I WANT IT TO BE 00:26:22.681 --> 00:26:24.616 FAIR. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT YOUR 00:26:24.683 --> 00:26:28.620 BILL TODAY. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE 00:26:28.687 --> 00:26:30.121 CONSIDERING THE POTENTIAL FOR 00:26:30.188 --> 00:26:31.523 AMENDMENTS. IF IT GOES TO A 00:26:31.589 --> 00:26:35.226 PROCESS AND GETS OUT. THERE'S 00:26:35.293 --> 00:26:36.661 NO GUARANTEE I'LL SUPPORT IT ON 00:26:36.728 --> 00:26:38.430 THE FLOOR, HOWEVER. SO I JUST 00:26:38.496 --> 00:26:40.432 WANT TO BE CLEAR, THOSE ARE THE 00:26:40.498 --> 00:26:42.267 MY BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH THE 00:26:42.334 --> 00:26:44.903 STATUS OF THE BILL RIGHT NOW. 00:26:44.970 --> 00:26:46.705 THANK YOU, SENATOR, FOR THOSE 00:26:46.771 --> 00:26:48.773 COMMENTS. LET ME RESPOND TO A 00:26:48.840 --> 00:26:50.608 COUPLE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU 00:26:50.675 --> 00:26:53.144 RAISED AND THINGS THAT WERE 00:26:53.211 --> 00:26:54.546 ECHOING SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF 00:26:54.612 --> 00:26:57.148 THE OPPOSITION WITNESSES. SO 00:26:57.215 --> 00:26:59.584 LET ME START WITH THE CONCERN 00:26:59.651 --> 00:27:02.854 ABOUT COST AND ENSURING THAT 00:27:02.921 --> 00:27:05.724 THIS PROGRAM IS IS IMPLEMENTED 00:27:05.790 --> 00:27:10.061 FAIRLY. SO CALIFORNIA'S 00:27:10.128 --> 00:27:12.163 IGNITION INTERLOCK DEVICE 00:27:12.230 --> 00:27:13.665 PROGRAM, WE HAVE THE MOST 00:27:13.732 --> 00:27:15.467 GENEROUS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE 00:27:15.533 --> 00:27:17.902 IN THE NATION. THIS WILL 00:27:17.969 --> 00:27:20.505 STRENGTHEN THAT ASSISTANCE. IF 00:27:20.572 --> 00:27:23.341 YOU ARE WITH THE MOST GENEROUS 00:27:23.408 --> 00:27:25.877 SUBSIDY AMOUNTING TO A COST OF 00:27:25.944 --> 00:27:31.282 $0.30 PER DAY, $0.30 PER DAY, 00:27:31.349 --> 00:27:33.752 AND THAT IS FOR YOU. I'M HAPPY 00:27:33.818 --> 00:27:36.087 TO TO SEND YOU THE FEE SCHEDULE, 00:27:36.154 --> 00:27:38.490 BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE, YOU 00:27:38.556 --> 00:27:40.658 KNOW, AN INCREDIBLY GENEROUS 00:27:40.725 --> 00:27:42.494 PROGRAM. AND I THINK I WOULD 00:27:42.560 --> 00:27:46.064 ALSO PUT FORWARD FOR YOUR 00:27:46.131 --> 00:27:46.731 CONSIDERATION FOR THE 00:27:46.798 --> 00:27:47.832 CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMITTEE 00:27:47.899 --> 00:27:49.267 AND, FRANKLY, FOR THE 00:27:49.334 --> 00:27:52.504 CONSIDERATION OF THE OPPOSITION 00:27:52.570 --> 00:27:54.272 WITNESSES, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY 00:27:54.339 --> 00:27:56.508 IMPORTANT. IT'S ACTUALLY 00:27:56.574 --> 00:27:57.675 IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE 00:27:57.742 --> 00:28:00.478 SOME SKIN IN THE GAME. AND I 00:28:00.545 --> 00:28:02.247 THINK I SHARED THIS STORY IN 00:28:02.313 --> 00:28:03.648 ONE OF THE COMMITTEE HEARINGS. 00:28:03.715 --> 00:28:05.817 SO, SO MANY OF US HAVE 00:28:05.884 --> 00:28:08.353 EXPERIENCE WITH DRUNK DRIVING 00:28:08.420 --> 00:28:09.821 INCIDENTS TRAGICALLY, 00:28:09.888 --> 00:28:11.589 TRAGICALLY. AND MINE IS RELATED 00:28:11.656 --> 00:28:14.092 TO MY BROTHER. SO MY BROTHER 00:28:14.159 --> 00:28:15.927 HAS STRUGGLED WITH SUBSTANCE 00:28:15.994 --> 00:28:18.496 ABUSE AND ALCOHOL ADDICTION. HE 00:28:18.563 --> 00:28:22.867 WAS CONVICTED OF A DUI. LONG 00:28:22.934 --> 00:28:24.569 STORY. HE ACTUALLY SPENT TIME 00:28:24.636 --> 00:28:26.704 IN PRISON FOR OTHER OFFENSES. 00:28:26.771 --> 00:28:28.573 ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, HE WAS 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.375 RELEASED FROM PRISON. AND FOR 00:28:30.442 --> 00:28:32.510 THE VERY FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE, 00:28:32.577 --> 00:28:35.713 HE WAS IN A POSITION WHERE HE 00:28:35.780 --> 00:28:38.116 WAS SOBER. HE WAS WORKING TO 00:28:38.183 --> 00:28:40.819 GET HIS LIFE ON TRACK, AND HE 00:28:40.885 --> 00:28:42.420 WAS GOING TO TRY TO GET A 00:28:42.487 --> 00:28:43.988 DRIVER'S LICENSE. NOW MY 00:28:44.055 --> 00:28:45.790 BROTHER LIVES IN NORTH CAROLINA. 00:28:45.857 --> 00:28:47.225 GUESS WHAT? NORTH CAROLINA 00:28:47.292 --> 00:28:48.293 DOESN'T HAVE THESE GENEROUS 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:49.461 SUBSIDY PROGRAMS LIKE THE STATE 00:28:49.527 --> 00:28:51.229 OF CALIFORNIA. MY BROTHER IS A 00:28:51.296 --> 00:28:53.031 FAST FOOD MINIMUM WAGE WORKER 00:28:53.098 --> 00:28:54.466 IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA. 00:28:54.532 --> 00:28:58.770 HE HAD TO SAVE HIS MONEY TO 00:28:58.837 --> 00:29:00.738 HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO INSTALL 00:29:00.805 --> 00:29:02.340 THE DEVICE TO AFFORD THESE 00:29:02.407 --> 00:29:03.975 PAYMENTS. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I 00:29:04.042 --> 00:29:05.877 DON'T THINK THAT WAS A BAD 00:29:05.944 --> 00:29:07.712 THING FOR MY BROTHER. I THINK 00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:10.248 IT MADE HIM UNDERSTAND THAT 00:29:10.315 --> 00:29:13.051 IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO GET BEHIND 00:29:13.118 --> 00:29:15.553 THE WHEEL OF A FAST MOVING 00:29:15.620 --> 00:29:17.355 VEHICLE THAT CAN KILL OTHER 00:29:17.422 --> 00:29:19.691 PEOPLE. AND SO I COULD HAVE 00:29:19.757 --> 00:29:20.992 SAID TO MY BROTHER, YOU KNOW 00:29:21.059 --> 00:29:22.861 WHAT? GOSH, YOU'RE YOU'RE POOR. 00:29:22.927 --> 00:29:24.028 YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. LET 00:29:24.095 --> 00:29:25.997 ME GIVE YOU LET ME GIVE YOU THE 00:29:26.064 --> 00:29:27.799 MONEY YOU NEED. I DIDN'T DO 00:29:27.866 --> 00:29:28.967 THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS 00:29:29.033 --> 00:29:30.768 IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO UNDERSTAND 00:29:30.835 --> 00:29:33.605 THAT. SO FOR MY BROTHER THAT, 00:29:33.671 --> 00:29:35.006 YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN PART OF HIS 00:29:35.073 --> 00:29:37.208 JOURNEY AND, YOU KNOW, HE HAS 00:29:37.275 --> 00:29:39.344 CONTINUED TO STAY SOBER. HE HAS 00:29:39.410 --> 00:29:40.778 CONTINUED TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE. 00:29:40.845 --> 00:29:42.580 HE HAS CONTINUED TO BE ABLE TO 00:29:42.647 --> 00:29:44.482 SUPPORT HIMSELF. SO I'M PROUD 00:29:44.549 --> 00:29:46.518 OF THE PROGRESS THAT HE'S MADE. 00:29:46.584 --> 00:29:49.053 BUT I'M ALSO GRATEFUL. I'M ALSO 00:29:49.120 --> 00:29:50.688 GRATEFUL THAT HE WASN'T ABLE TO 00:29:50.755 --> 00:29:52.290 GET BEHIND THE WHEEL OF A CAR 00:29:52.357 --> 00:29:54.092 WITHOUT ENSURING THAT HE WAS 00:29:54.159 --> 00:29:55.226 SAFE TO DRIVE, BECAUSE, AS YOU 00:29:55.293 --> 00:29:57.328 HEARD FROM, FROM MR. CAMPBELL, 00:29:57.395 --> 00:29:59.430 WHEN THESE TRAGEDIES HAPPEN, 00:29:59.497 --> 00:30:02.033 THEY DESTROY THE LIVES OF 00:30:02.100 --> 00:30:03.535 PEOPLE LIKE MR. CAMPBELL. THEY 00:30:03.601 --> 00:30:05.670 ALSO DESTROY THE LIFE OF THE 00:30:05.737 --> 00:30:06.771 PERSON WHO HAS MADE THAT 00:30:06.838 --> 00:30:08.273 HORRIBLE DECISION TO GET BEHIND 00:30:08.339 --> 00:30:09.641 THE WHEEL. AND SO I BELIEVE 00:30:09.707 --> 00:30:10.975 THAT THESE ARE PREVENTABLE 00:30:11.042 --> 00:30:12.410 TRAGEDIES. I BELIEVE THAT WE 00:30:12.477 --> 00:30:13.912 CAN SAVE LIVES WITH THIS 00:30:13.978 --> 00:30:16.381 APPROACH. THE SECOND POINT I'LL 00:30:16.447 --> 00:30:18.149 ADDRESS IS, IS THE POINT THAT 00:30:18.216 --> 00:30:22.153 YOU MADE ABOUT THE 00:30:22.220 --> 00:30:25.823 MANUFACTURERS AND. YOU KNOW, I 00:30:25.890 --> 00:30:28.626 THINK AS I AS I NOTED IN MY 00:30:28.693 --> 00:30:30.495 OPENING COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE 00:30:30.562 --> 00:30:32.931 CERTAINLY TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY 00:30:32.997 --> 00:30:34.399 CONCERNS THAT NOT EVERY 00:30:34.465 --> 00:30:36.267 CERTIFIED ID MANUFACTURER HAS 00:30:36.334 --> 00:30:37.635 CONSISTENTLY COMPLIED WITH 00:30:37.702 --> 00:30:39.137 EXISTING INCOME VERIFICATION 00:30:39.204 --> 00:30:40.939 AND REDUCED FEE REQUIREMENTS, 00:30:41.005 --> 00:30:42.340 FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT YOU 00:30:42.407 --> 00:30:44.175 STATED. THAT IS A REAL PROBLEM 00:30:44.242 --> 00:30:45.577 PROBLEM. IT UNDERCUTS THE 00:30:45.643 --> 00:30:46.945 AFFORDABILITY PROTECTIONS THAT 00:30:47.011 --> 00:30:49.280 THE PROGRAM DEPENDS ON, AND WE 00:30:49.347 --> 00:30:51.015 WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THIS 00:30:51.082 --> 00:30:52.083 COMMITTEE AND WITH THE 00:30:52.150 --> 00:30:53.017 ADMINISTRATION TO ENSURE THAT 00:30:53.084 --> 00:30:54.953 WE GET THAT PIECE RIGHT AND 00:30:55.019 --> 00:30:56.020 THAT WE STRENGTHEN THE 00:30:56.087 --> 00:30:57.455 OVERSIGHT AND ENFORCEMENT OF 00:30:57.522 --> 00:31:00.325 MANUFACTURERS AND INSTALLERS. 00:31:00.391 --> 00:31:02.126 AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ANYONE 00:31:02.193 --> 00:31:04.295 UNDER THIS PROGRAM CAN CAN 00:31:04.362 --> 00:31:05.730 ACCESS A SYSTEM WHERE THEY CAN 00:31:05.797 --> 00:31:07.298 FILE A COMPLAINT. THAT WAS ONE 00:31:07.365 --> 00:31:08.566 OF THE REASONS WE WORKED REALLY 00:31:08.633 --> 00:31:11.569 CLOSELY WITH THE DMV TO IMPROVE 00:31:11.636 --> 00:31:12.904 THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 00:31:12.971 --> 00:31:14.706 PROGRAM OVERALL. AND I GUESS 00:31:14.772 --> 00:31:16.174 THE LAST POINT I'LL ADDRESS 00:31:16.241 --> 00:31:17.976 STRESS BECAUSE YOU RAISED IT, 00:31:18.042 --> 00:31:21.579 AS DID OPPOSITION, IS THE POINT 00:31:21.646 --> 00:31:24.115 REGARDING JUDICIAL DISCRETION. 00:31:24.182 --> 00:31:26.284 SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THAT IS 00:31:26.351 --> 00:31:29.287 CURRENT LAW. AND RIGHT NOW, 00:31:29.354 --> 00:31:30.455 WHETHER A FIRST TIME DRUNK 00:31:30.521 --> 00:31:32.357 DRIVER HAS TO INSTALL AN ID 00:31:32.423 --> 00:31:34.525 DEPENDS ALMOST ENTIRELY ON THE 00:31:34.592 --> 00:31:35.627 COUNTY THAT THEY GET ARRESTED 00:31:35.693 --> 00:31:38.429 IN. SO THAT'S NOT, IN MY VIEW, 00:31:38.496 --> 00:31:39.597 A PUBLIC SAFETY POLICY. THAT'S 00:31:39.664 --> 00:31:41.833 A LOTTERY. SO 11 COUNTIES, 00:31:41.899 --> 00:31:44.369 INCLUDING LOS ANGELES, NEVER 00:31:44.435 --> 00:31:46.871 HAVE NEVER ORDERED A FIRST TIME 00:31:46.938 --> 00:31:49.007 OFFENDER TO INSTALL ONE AT ALL. 00:31:49.073 --> 00:31:52.310 AND SONOMA COUNTY HAS IT TO BE 00:31:52.377 --> 00:31:54.112 INSTALLED IN 72% OF CONVICTIONS. 00:31:54.178 --> 00:31:57.615 SO TO YOUR POINT ABOUT FAIRNESS, 00:31:57.682 --> 00:31:58.683 WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW 00:31:58.750 --> 00:32:01.052 REALLY SEEMS TO FLY IN THE FACE 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:02.754 OF FAIRNESS FOR ALL 00:32:02.820 --> 00:32:04.756 CALIFORNIANS. AND I WOULD SAY, 00:32:04.822 --> 00:32:06.324 YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING THAT I 00:32:06.391 --> 00:32:07.892 THINK IS JUST SO IMPORTANT FOR 00:32:07.959 --> 00:32:09.193 US TO CENTER IN THIS 00:32:09.260 --> 00:32:11.696 CONVERSATION IS THAT THE POLICY 00:32:11.763 --> 00:32:13.464 BEFORE US, THE REQUIREMENT TO 00:32:13.531 --> 00:32:14.899 INSTALL AN IGNITION INTERLOCK 00:32:14.966 --> 00:32:17.769 DEVICE, THE REASON THAT I WANT 00:32:17.835 --> 00:32:20.705 TO ADVANCE THIS IS BECAUSE IT 00:32:20.772 --> 00:32:23.941 IS A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO CONTINUE 00:32:24.008 --> 00:32:26.077 TO GET TO WORK AND HAVE A JOB. 00:32:26.144 --> 00:32:27.912 IT'S A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO 00:32:27.979 --> 00:32:29.013 CONTINUE TO HAVE A DRIVER'S 00:32:29.080 --> 00:32:31.516 LICENSE AND STAY MOBILE. SO I 00:32:31.582 --> 00:32:34.719 THINK THAT THIS APPROACH 00:32:34.786 --> 00:32:37.322 ENSURES THAT WE AREN'T KEEPING 00:32:37.388 --> 00:32:39.390 ANYONE, ANYONE, FROM EARNING A 00:32:39.457 --> 00:32:40.858 LIVING AND BEING ABLE TO GET ON 00:32:40.925 --> 00:32:43.361 WITH THEIR LIVES. AND AS I SAID, 00:32:43.428 --> 00:32:45.863 WITH THE INCREDIBLY GENEROUS 00:32:45.930 --> 00:32:47.699 SUBSIDY, I BELIEVE THAT IT IS 00:32:47.765 --> 00:32:49.100 ABSOLUTELY A FAIR AND EQUITABLE 00:32:49.167 --> 00:32:50.535 APPROACH. THANK YOU FOR THAT, I 00:32:50.601 --> 00:32:53.204 APPRECIATE IT. AS I STATED AT 00:32:53.271 --> 00:32:55.206 THE BEGINNING, I DON'T HAVE I 00:32:55.273 --> 00:32:57.041 THINK IT'S IT'S THIS IS REALLY 00:32:57.108 --> 00:32:59.911 IMPORTANT WORK TO DO. IT'S THE 00:32:59.977 --> 00:33:01.045 DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS. AND 00:33:01.112 --> 00:33:02.447 PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THAT 00:33:02.513 --> 00:33:03.881 WE ALL HAVE VIGNETTES THAT WE 00:33:03.948 --> 00:33:06.150 CAN TALK ABOUT. AND I REALLY 00:33:06.217 --> 00:33:10.054 APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR 00:33:10.121 --> 00:33:15.393 FAMILY STORY, BECAUSE I DO 00:33:15.460 --> 00:33:17.328 AGREE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE 00:33:17.395 --> 00:33:18.930 SKIN IN THE GAME. THERE'S JUST 00:33:18.996 --> 00:33:20.064 NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. AND THEY 00:33:20.131 --> 00:33:21.866 HAVE TO FEEL THE CONSEQUENCES 00:33:21.933 --> 00:33:23.668 OF THEIR BAD BEHAVIOR. AND WHAT 00:33:23.735 --> 00:33:25.436 I LIKE ABOUT THE BILL IS THAT 00:33:25.503 --> 00:33:26.938 IT DOES PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY 00:33:27.004 --> 00:33:28.806 FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET TO 00:33:28.873 --> 00:33:31.209 WORK IN REGIONS WHERE PUBLIC 00:33:31.275 --> 00:33:32.276 TRANSPORTATION JUST DOES NOT 00:33:32.343 --> 00:33:35.913 EXIST. AND IN MY RURAL REGION, 00:33:35.980 --> 00:33:37.882 IT'S PRETTY IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND 00:33:37.949 --> 00:33:39.584 A JOB THAT ISN'T 30 MINUTES 00:33:39.650 --> 00:33:40.685 AWAY, WHICH MEANS YOU'VE GOT TO 00:33:40.752 --> 00:33:42.620 GET ON THE ROAD AND YOU'VE GOT 00:33:42.687 --> 00:33:43.821 TO DRIVE SOMEWHERE. AND MORE 00:33:43.888 --> 00:33:46.724 OFTEN THAN NOT, MORE OFTEN THAN 00:33:46.791 --> 00:33:49.560 NOT, MY CLIENTS, BECAUSE I 00:33:49.627 --> 00:33:52.163 REPRESENTED FARMWORKERS, DROVE 00:33:52.230 --> 00:33:54.298 WITHOUT LICENSES OR DROVE ON 00:33:54.365 --> 00:33:55.366 SUSPENDED LICENSES, BECAUSE 00:33:55.433 --> 00:33:56.801 THAT'S HOW THEY GET TO WORK AND 00:33:56.868 --> 00:33:58.970 THAT'S HOW THEY PAY THEIR BILLS. 00:33:59.036 --> 00:34:01.606 AND, AND SO WE WANT TO WE WANT 00:34:01.672 --> 00:34:04.008 TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ISN'T 00:34:04.075 --> 00:34:05.510 HAPPENING. SO WE'VE GOT 00:34:05.576 --> 00:34:06.611 WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE 00:34:06.677 --> 00:34:07.812 PUTTING IN THE VEHICLES, HAS TO 00:34:07.879 --> 00:34:10.148 WORK AND HAS TO WORK FOR THEM 00:34:10.214 --> 00:34:13.918 AS WELL. AND SO I EXPRESSED TO 00:34:13.985 --> 00:34:16.020 YOU MY CONCERNS. I THINK THIS 00:34:16.087 --> 00:34:18.423 IS A REALLY GOOD BILL. IT'S 00:34:18.489 --> 00:34:20.124 JUST GOT SOME TWEAKS THAT I 00:34:20.191 --> 00:34:22.427 THINK MAY MAKE IT BETTER. AND I 00:34:22.493 --> 00:34:24.429 JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE US SET 00:34:24.495 --> 00:34:25.797 UP A SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE ARE 00:34:25.863 --> 00:34:27.098 JUST DRIVING ON A SUSPENDED 00:34:27.165 --> 00:34:29.233 LICENSE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T. THE 00:34:29.300 --> 00:34:31.369 ID IS TOO DIFFICULT TO TO 00:34:31.436 --> 00:34:32.804 IMPLEMENT. SO THANK YOU FOR 00:34:32.870 --> 00:34:33.671 THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, 00:34:33.738 --> 00:34:34.972 SENATOR. I REALLY APPRECIATE 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.242 YOUR YOUR ENGAGEMENT ON THIS. 00:34:38.309 --> 00:34:42.280 THANK YOU, SENATOR CORTEZ. YEAH, 00:34:42.346 --> 00:34:44.682 I'LL BE FIRST OF ALL, LET ME 00:34:44.749 --> 00:34:45.683 THANK THE AUTHOR FOR 00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:46.784 APPROACHING ME A COUPLE OF 00:34:46.851 --> 00:34:48.753 TIMES IN PARTICULARLY AS CHAIR 00:34:48.820 --> 00:34:50.054 OF THE COMMITTEE THAT THIS BILL 00:34:50.121 --> 00:34:52.623 IS GOING TO. AND WE'VE HAD 00:34:52.690 --> 00:34:55.126 DISCUSSIONS AND AN OFFER OF A 00:34:55.193 --> 00:34:56.594 ONE SENTENCE AMENDMENT, ONE 00:34:56.661 --> 00:34:59.464 SENTENCE TO COVER JUDICIAL 00:34:59.530 --> 00:35:01.265 DISCRETION IN EXTRAORDINARY 00:35:01.332 --> 00:35:02.366 CIRCUMSTANCES, EXTRAORDINARY, 00:35:02.433 --> 00:35:03.768 EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES ARE 00:35:03.835 --> 00:35:06.037 WELL DEFINED IN CASE LAW. THAT 00:35:06.103 --> 00:35:08.473 WAS NOT RESPONDED TO FAVORABLY. 00:35:08.539 --> 00:35:10.641 SO I'LL BE STAYING OFF TODAY. 00:35:10.708 --> 00:35:12.543 AND WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, 00:35:12.610 --> 00:35:14.579 THE BILL MAKES IT TO THE FLOOR 00:35:14.645 --> 00:35:16.047 OR NOT MAKES IT THROUGH MY 00:35:16.113 --> 00:35:18.983 COMMITTEE. I CAN'T VOTE. I CAN 00:35:19.050 --> 00:35:20.685 CERTAINLY VOTE FOR A BILL, AS I 00:35:20.751 --> 00:35:22.153 TOLD THE AUTHOR, THAT MAKES 00:35:22.220 --> 00:35:23.554 THIS THE DEFAULT IN EVERY 00:35:23.621 --> 00:35:24.689 COUNTY IN CALIFORNIA AND THE 00:35:24.755 --> 00:35:27.225 STATE OF CALIFORNIA. BUT I 00:35:27.291 --> 00:35:28.960 WON'T VOTE FOR A BILL THAT 00:35:29.026 --> 00:35:31.929 TELLS THE JUDGES IN THIS, IN 00:35:31.996 --> 00:35:34.398 THIS STATE AND IN EVERY COUNTY, 00:35:34.465 --> 00:35:36.167 THAT THERE'S NEVER AN 00:35:36.234 --> 00:35:37.268 EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCE THAT 00:35:37.335 --> 00:35:40.104 THEY'RE GOING TO FACE IN 00:35:40.171 --> 00:35:43.374 SENTENCING, THAT THAT THAT 00:35:43.441 --> 00:35:44.108 SHOULDN'T BE TREATED 00:35:44.175 --> 00:35:46.577 DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF AN ID 00:35:46.644 --> 00:35:49.814 THAT'S, I THINK, EXTREMELY 00:35:49.881 --> 00:35:52.016 INAPPROPRIATE. I APPRECIATE THE 00:35:52.083 --> 00:35:53.451 WITNESS TESTIMONY. CERTAINLY 00:35:53.518 --> 00:35:56.354 APPRECIATE MY SEATMATE, SENATOR 00:35:56.420 --> 00:35:58.022 ARCHULETA, YOU KNOW, FOR HAVING 00:35:58.089 --> 00:36:00.191 THE COURAGE TO TO TALK ABOUT 00:36:00.258 --> 00:36:04.996 HIS SITUATION. WE ALL HAVE. YOU 00:36:05.062 --> 00:36:06.664 KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, I WOULD 00:36:06.731 --> 00:36:08.599 ASSOCIATE MY COMMENTS GENERALLY 00:36:08.666 --> 00:36:09.901 OVERALL, JUST IN THE INTEREST 00:36:09.967 --> 00:36:14.338 OF OF EFFICIENCY HERE WITH 00:36:14.405 --> 00:36:20.411 SENATOR CABALLERO. IN, YOU KNOW, 00:36:20.478 --> 00:36:25.850 THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT VICTIM. 00:36:25.917 --> 00:36:26.951 EXPERIENCES IN MY FAMILY AS 00:36:27.018 --> 00:36:30.588 WELL, INCLUDING MY MOTHER. BUT 00:36:30.655 --> 00:36:32.390 AS A MATTER OF JUDICIAL 00:36:32.456 --> 00:36:34.492 PRINCIPLE, I WOULD NOT TAKE 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:35.526 DISCRETION AWAY FROM EVERY 00:36:35.593 --> 00:36:38.896 JUDGE IN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE OF 00:36:38.963 --> 00:36:40.765 MY PERSONAL SITUATION. THAT'S 00:36:40.831 --> 00:36:42.767 NOT HOW I VOTE HERE. AS AS A 00:36:42.833 --> 00:36:45.570 STATE SENATOR, I APPRECIATE THE 00:36:45.636 --> 00:36:47.505 VICTIM TESTIMONY ABOUT REPEAT 00:36:47.572 --> 00:36:49.240 OFFENDERS. WE'VE HELD HEARINGS 00:36:49.307 --> 00:36:51.008 ON THAT. WE I THINK WE 00:36:51.075 --> 00:36:52.843 GENERALLY ALL AGREED THAT 00:36:52.910 --> 00:36:57.548 THAT'S AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE 00:36:57.615 --> 00:36:58.616 STEPPED UP, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS 00:36:58.683 --> 00:37:02.286 OF DMV REVOCATIONS. THOSE FOLKS 00:37:02.353 --> 00:37:03.487 SHOULDN'T BE NOT ONLY SHOULD 00:37:03.554 --> 00:37:06.190 NOT BE DRIVING, SHOULD NOT BE 00:37:06.257 --> 00:37:09.060 ALLOWED TO DRIVE IN ALMOST 00:37:09.126 --> 00:37:11.996 ALMOST ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT 00:37:12.063 --> 00:37:13.431 THAT'S NOT THE BILL BEFORE US 00:37:13.497 --> 00:37:14.665 TODAY. THE BILL BEFORE US TODAY 00:37:14.732 --> 00:37:16.667 IS SAYING EVERY SINGLE FIRST 00:37:16.734 --> 00:37:18.769 TIME OFFENDER, NO MATTER WHAT 00:37:18.836 --> 00:37:21.405 THE CIRCUMSTANCES, NO MATTER 00:37:21.472 --> 00:37:26.644 WHAT THE FACT PATTERN. 00:37:26.711 --> 00:37:28.846 ESSENTIALLY HAS NO HOPE OF OF 00:37:28.913 --> 00:37:30.915 THAT PIECE OF THE DEFENSE. AND 00:37:30.982 --> 00:37:33.517 IT IS A PIECE OF THE DEFENSE 00:37:33.584 --> 00:37:35.119 THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM, YOU KNOW, 00:37:35.186 --> 00:37:38.623 TO ARGUE ON SENTENCING THAT IN 00:37:38.689 --> 00:37:41.459 THEIR PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE, 00:37:41.525 --> 00:37:43.961 FACT, PATTERN OR SITUATION THAT 00:37:44.028 --> 00:37:49.734 AN ID. SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OFF 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.771 THE TABLE DUE TO DUE TO THOSE 00:37:53.838 --> 00:37:56.140 EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES. SO 00:37:56.207 --> 00:37:58.709 THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. AND, YOU 00:37:58.776 --> 00:38:00.511 KNOW, HAVEN'T WE, YOU KNOW, 00:38:00.578 --> 00:38:03.080 WE'VE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO 00:38:03.147 --> 00:38:05.783 VIEW THE THE BILL IN PRINT, YOU 00:38:05.850 --> 00:38:07.818 KNOW, OVERALL, BUT I WOULD SAY 00:38:07.885 --> 00:38:09.720 A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE 00:38:09.787 --> 00:38:10.921 HEARD JUST WITH TWO SENATORS 00:38:10.988 --> 00:38:13.424 SPEAKING ALREADY WOULD HAVE 00:38:13.491 --> 00:38:16.394 BEEN OPPORTUNE TO, TO NEGOTIATE 00:38:16.460 --> 00:38:18.262 AND DISCUSS AT A MUCH GREATER 00:38:18.329 --> 00:38:19.597 DETAIL THAN WE'VE HAD AN 00:38:19.664 --> 00:38:20.665 OPPORTUNITY TO DO. I CERTAINLY, 00:38:20.731 --> 00:38:22.166 AS THIS COMMITTEE, HAVE NOT HAD 00:38:22.233 --> 00:38:23.934 AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO WEIGH IN 00:38:24.001 --> 00:38:25.736 ON, ON, ON PUBLIC SAFETY 00:38:25.803 --> 00:38:26.771 AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT MAKE THE 00:38:26.837 --> 00:38:29.707 BILL A BETTER BILL. AND WE ARE 00:38:29.774 --> 00:38:31.809 ALL, AS AUTHORS, IN A POSITION 00:38:31.876 --> 00:38:34.745 TO ACCEPT FROM OUR COLLEAGUES, 00:38:34.812 --> 00:38:36.180 ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH 00:38:36.247 --> 00:38:38.349 PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, LIVE 00:38:38.416 --> 00:38:42.787 EXPERIENCE. I LIKE MY COLLEAGUE 00:38:42.853 --> 00:38:45.156 WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME TO MAKE A 00:38:45.222 --> 00:38:46.857 BILL BETTER. I MEAN, THAT'S 00:38:46.924 --> 00:38:49.326 WHAT WE DO HERE, AND I HAVEN'T 00:38:49.393 --> 00:38:51.195 I HAVEN'T SEEN I HAVEN'T SEEN 00:38:51.262 --> 00:38:53.431 THOSE KIND OF SUGGESTIONS 00:38:53.497 --> 00:38:56.300 ACCEPTED AT THIS POINT SO OR 00:38:56.367 --> 00:38:58.502 WORKED WITH. SO I'LL BE STAYING 00:38:58.569 --> 00:39:01.839 OFF. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. VICE 00:39:01.906 --> 00:39:05.042 CHAIR. AND I SORT OF SAY TWO 00:39:05.109 --> 00:39:07.912 THINGS. SO FIRST, I THINK TO, 00:39:07.978 --> 00:39:09.246 YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION OF THE 00:39:09.313 --> 00:39:12.216 THE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR 00:39:12.283 --> 00:39:13.217 FORTHRIGHTNESS BOTH IN OUR 00:39:13.284 --> 00:39:14.251 PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL 00:39:14.318 --> 00:39:16.120 AS HERE BEFORE COMMITTEE. I 00:39:16.187 --> 00:39:18.989 THINK TO THE THE POINT ABOUT 00:39:19.056 --> 00:39:21.125 JUDICIAL DISCRETION, I THINK 00:39:21.192 --> 00:39:23.961 PERHAPS YOU AND MR. CHAIR AND I 00:39:24.028 --> 00:39:25.129 SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION 00:39:25.196 --> 00:39:26.664 ABOUT THAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, 00:39:26.731 --> 00:39:30.167 THE CENTRAL CONUNDRUM IS I 00:39:30.234 --> 00:39:31.235 THINK THERE'S A DESIRE TO 00:39:31.302 --> 00:39:34.071 ENSURE THAT THIS IS IMPLEMENTED 00:39:34.138 --> 00:39:36.640 FAIRLY AND EQUITABLY ACROSS THE 00:39:36.707 --> 00:39:38.909 STATE. AND AS I SAID, WE WANT 00:39:38.976 --> 00:39:42.747 TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T 00:39:42.813 --> 00:39:43.848 DEPEND ON WHICH COURTHOUSE YOU 00:39:43.914 --> 00:39:46.016 WALK INTO OR WHETHER YOU CAN 00:39:46.083 --> 00:39:47.852 AFFORD TO HIRE A FANCY DEFENSE 00:39:47.918 --> 00:39:49.954 ATTORNEY OR ANY OF THE OTHER 00:39:50.020 --> 00:39:51.689 FACTORS THAT OTHER MEMBERS OF 00:39:51.756 --> 00:39:53.557 THIS COMMITTEE ARE CONCERNED 00:39:53.624 --> 00:39:57.194 ABOUT IN TERMS OF WHAT JUDICIAL 00:39:57.261 --> 00:39:58.329 DISCRETION MIGHT INTRODUCE. SO 00:39:58.395 --> 00:40:01.165 OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION, I 00:40:01.232 --> 00:40:02.933 WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR YOU SAY 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:04.969 THAT YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'VE 00:40:05.035 --> 00:40:06.237 HAD THE TIME TO CONSIDER THE 00:40:06.303 --> 00:40:08.038 BILL. I KNOW THAT THE BILL HAS 00:40:08.105 --> 00:40:09.140 BEEN BEFORE YOUR COMMITTEE 00:40:09.206 --> 00:40:10.875 SINCE JUNE, AND I HAVE BEEN, 00:40:10.941 --> 00:40:13.410 YOU KNOW, EAGER AND OPEN TO 00:40:13.477 --> 00:40:15.179 DISCUSS AND DIVE INTO IT WITH 00:40:15.246 --> 00:40:16.981 YOU AT ANY POINT SINCE THAT 00:40:17.047 --> 00:40:18.716 TIME, IF I MAY, THROUGH THE 00:40:18.783 --> 00:40:20.551 CHAIR, WHAT I WHAT I SUGGESTED 00:40:20.618 --> 00:40:22.920 IS THAT I HAVE NOT HAD TIME AS 00:40:22.987 --> 00:40:24.388 A MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE, OR 00:40:24.455 --> 00:40:26.724 AN OPPORTUNITY OR AN INVITATION 00:40:26.791 --> 00:40:28.159 TO HELP NEGOTIATE AMENDMENTS TO 00:40:28.225 --> 00:40:30.294 THE BILL HERE. AND I'M STAYING 00:40:30.361 --> 00:40:32.096 OFF HERE. THAT'S WHERE THE BILL 00:40:32.163 --> 00:40:34.265 IS BEING HEARD RIGHT NOW. WE 00:40:34.331 --> 00:40:35.332 CERTAINLY HAVE CERTAINLY HAD AN 00:40:35.399 --> 00:40:36.734 OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW WHAT 00:40:36.801 --> 00:40:40.404 AMOUNTS TO ABOUT A REAM OF 00:40:40.471 --> 00:40:41.472 PAPERWORK, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU 00:40:41.539 --> 00:40:42.940 HAVE PROVIDED AND ADVOCATES 00:40:43.007 --> 00:40:44.308 HAVE PROVIDED, YOUR SPONSORS 00:40:44.375 --> 00:40:46.143 HAVE PROVIDED, AND I APPRECIATE 00:40:46.210 --> 00:40:48.279 THAT. BUT JUDICIAL DISCRETION 00:40:48.345 --> 00:40:50.181 IS A TERM OF ART, AND IT HAS 00:40:50.247 --> 00:40:52.583 NOTHING TO DO WITH ONE COUNTY 00:40:52.650 --> 00:40:53.684 APPLYING RULES DIFFERENT THAN 00:40:53.751 --> 00:40:54.785 ANOTHER COUNTY. THAT'S A 00:40:54.852 --> 00:40:56.520 DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN WHAT WE'RE 00:40:56.587 --> 00:40:58.022 TALKING ABOUT. WHAT I'M TALKING 00:40:58.088 --> 00:41:01.225 ABOUT HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, I 00:41:01.292 --> 00:41:05.229 THINK THERE'S. THERE'S JUST A 00:41:05.296 --> 00:41:06.297 SHARP DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AS 00:41:06.363 --> 00:41:08.098 TO WHETHER THAT'S NECESSARY OR 00:41:08.165 --> 00:41:11.702 NOT. AND, AND I'M I'M SORRY 00:41:11.769 --> 00:41:12.903 THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF 00:41:12.970 --> 00:41:16.307 OPINION ON THAT. BUT IT'S, YOU 00:41:16.373 --> 00:41:20.344 KNOW, IT'S WHERE I STAND ON 00:41:20.411 --> 00:41:21.445 THESE ON THIS ISSUE. AND I 00:41:21.512 --> 00:41:22.813 THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.716 ACTUALLY A GENEROUS AMENDMENT 00:41:25.783 --> 00:41:30.387 THAT PRESERVES. THE VERY 00:41:30.454 --> 00:41:31.455 PRINCIPLES OF CHECKS AND 00:41:31.522 --> 00:41:32.923 BALANCES IN OUR SYSTEM AND WHAT 00:41:32.990 --> 00:41:34.692 THE JUDICIAL BRANCH IS THERE TO 00:41:34.758 --> 00:41:35.759 DO, AND WHAT OUR PUBLIC 00:41:35.826 --> 00:41:36.894 DEFENDERS AND OTHER DEFENSE 00:41:36.961 --> 00:41:38.362 ATTORNEYS ARE THERE TO DO, 00:41:38.429 --> 00:41:39.763 WHILE AT THE SAME TIME MAKING 00:41:39.830 --> 00:41:44.835 YOUR BILL THE DEFAULT. AND AND 00:41:44.902 --> 00:41:46.604 IN EVERY CASE, UNLESS THERE'S 00:41:46.670 --> 00:41:48.038 AN ACTUAL FINDING OF 00:41:48.105 --> 00:41:49.440 EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES IN 00:41:49.506 --> 00:41:52.409 THE JUDICIAL BRANCH. SO IF WE 00:41:52.476 --> 00:41:55.613 CAN'T GET THERE IN AGREEMENT, 00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:57.081 OBVIOUSLY YOU GET TO PROCEED 00:41:57.147 --> 00:41:58.816 WITH YOUR BILL AS LONG AS YOU 00:41:58.883 --> 00:41:59.984 CONTINUE TO HAVE THE VOTES. AND 00:42:00.050 --> 00:42:01.719 I UNDERSTAND THAT'S HOW IT 00:42:01.785 --> 00:42:02.853 WORKS HERE. THANK YOU AGAIN, 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:03.888 MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. LOOK 00:42:03.954 --> 00:42:04.855 FORWARD TO CONTINUED 00:42:04.922 --> 00:42:05.723 CONVERSATION. SENATOR VICE 00:42:05.789 --> 00:42:09.660 CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. 00:42:09.727 --> 00:42:11.128 YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO 00:42:11.195 --> 00:42:12.429 APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE. I'M NOT 00:42:12.496 --> 00:42:14.765 AS SYMPATHETIC WITH PEOPLE THAT 00:42:14.832 --> 00:42:16.467 GET THEMSELVES INTO THE 00:42:16.533 --> 00:42:18.269 SITUATION OF GOING OUT, 00:42:18.335 --> 00:42:20.070 DRINKING AND KILLING SOMEBODY. 00:42:20.137 --> 00:42:21.872 I'VE PROBABLY SEEN MORE DEAD 00:42:21.939 --> 00:42:24.375 BODIES FROM DRUNK DRIVING THAN 00:42:24.441 --> 00:42:26.176 ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM PUT 00:42:26.243 --> 00:42:30.881 TOGETHER. AND IT'S, IT'S IT'S 00:42:30.948 --> 00:42:33.784 SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY. 00:42:33.851 --> 00:42:37.388 YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY THIS, THIS 00:42:37.454 --> 00:42:38.455 NOTION THAT SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, 00:42:38.522 --> 00:42:41.091 SOMEBODY CAN'T AFFORD THE $54 00:42:41.158 --> 00:42:43.160 TO RENT THIS THING FOR THE SIX 00:42:43.227 --> 00:42:44.261 MONTHS THAT THEY NEED TO RENT 00:42:44.328 --> 00:42:46.697 IT FOR. THEY SPEND MORE THAN 00:42:46.764 --> 00:42:50.668 THAT ON ALCOHOL THAT THEY BUY. 00:42:50.734 --> 00:42:52.436 THEY CAN STOP BUYING ALCOHOL, 00:42:52.503 --> 00:42:54.805 THEY CAN STOP DRINKING. THAT'S 00:42:54.872 --> 00:42:58.242 THEIR CHOICE. NOBODY HAS THE 00:42:58.309 --> 00:43:00.778 PRIVILEGE OF DRIVING WHILE 00:43:00.844 --> 00:43:02.646 ILLEGALLY INTOXICATED. THERE IS 00:43:02.713 --> 00:43:04.848 NO PRIVILEGE FOR THAT. THERE IS 00:43:04.915 --> 00:43:07.551 NO LAW THAT SAYS YOU GET TO DO 00:43:07.618 --> 00:43:13.357 THAT. THAT'S YOUR FREEDOM. 00:43:13.424 --> 00:43:19.463 DRUNK DRIVING IS A SCOURGE AND 00:43:19.530 --> 00:43:20.864 NOTHING WE HAVE DONE SEEMS TO 00:43:20.931 --> 00:43:22.533 BE MAKING THE IMPACT THAT WE 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.302 NEED TO MAKE. WHEN YOU GET 00:43:25.369 --> 00:43:28.138 CAUGHT DRUNK DRIVING, BLOWING 00:43:28.205 --> 00:43:32.142 INTO A TUBE TO MAKE YOUR MAKE 00:43:32.209 --> 00:43:33.978 IT OKAY FOR YOUR VEHICLE TO 00:43:34.044 --> 00:43:35.679 START IS THE LEAST OF OUR 00:43:35.746 --> 00:43:38.549 WORRIES. THE MOST OF OUR 00:43:38.615 --> 00:43:40.784 WORRIES IS THAT THEY DON'T. 00:43:40.851 --> 00:43:42.586 THERE'S. SOME JUDGE DECIDES, OH, 00:43:42.653 --> 00:43:44.321 THIS ONE DESERVES A PASS. WE'RE 00:43:44.388 --> 00:43:45.556 GOING TO LET THEM GO. LET. LET 00:43:45.622 --> 00:43:48.359 THIS ONE PASS. I'VE SEEN WAY 00:43:48.425 --> 00:43:50.527 TOO MANY OF THOSE. WAY TOO MANY 00:43:50.594 --> 00:43:52.629 OF THEM. THEY'RE CALLED REPEAT 00:43:52.696 --> 00:43:54.064 OFFENDERS. THEY GO OUT THERE 00:43:54.131 --> 00:43:58.168 TIME AND TIME AGAIN. AND THEY 00:43:58.235 --> 00:43:59.570 GOT OUT THERE BECAUSE THE FIRST 00:43:59.636 --> 00:44:01.972 TIME THEY OFFENDED, THEY GOT A 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:04.208 SLAP ON THE WRIST. THE FIRST 00:44:04.274 --> 00:44:05.275 TIME THEY GOT OFFENDED. THE 00:44:05.342 --> 00:44:06.910 FIRST TIME THEY WENT DOWN THE 00:44:06.977 --> 00:44:08.445 FREEWAY AT 100 MILES AN HOUR, 00:44:08.512 --> 00:44:11.315 THREE TIMES THE LEGAL LIMIT. 00:44:11.382 --> 00:44:12.416 THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY THEY 00:44:12.483 --> 00:44:16.020 DIDN'T KILL ANYBODY. SO THEY 00:44:16.086 --> 00:44:17.321 GET A SLAP ON THE WRIST. THEY 00:44:17.388 --> 00:44:20.224 GET A FINE. WELL, SOMETIMES 00:44:20.290 --> 00:44:22.559 THAT FINE IS $10,000. AND IF 00:44:22.626 --> 00:44:24.695 SOMEBODY CAN PAY A $10,000 FINE, 00:44:24.762 --> 00:44:26.163 THEN SOME OF THAT MONEY CAN BE 00:44:26.230 --> 00:44:31.568 USED FOR THEIR THIS DEVICE. I 00:44:31.635 --> 00:44:32.870 HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN A FAN OF, 00:44:32.936 --> 00:44:35.506 OF THESE TYPE OF INTERVENTIONS, 00:44:35.572 --> 00:44:38.442 BUT WATCHING OUR FAILURES FOR 00:44:38.509 --> 00:44:42.679 SO MANY YEARS IN, IN TRYING TO 00:44:42.746 --> 00:44:45.916 STOP THE PART THAT THIS 00:44:45.983 --> 00:44:48.085 GENTLEMAN HERE HAS TO LIVE WITH 00:44:48.152 --> 00:44:51.688 FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. I 00:44:51.755 --> 00:44:53.157 DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE, WHAT THE 00:44:53.223 --> 00:44:57.461 HELL ELSE TO DO. IT'S IT'S 00:44:57.528 --> 00:45:00.330 ABSURD. YOU KNOW, WE MAKE 00:45:00.397 --> 00:45:05.002 EXCUSES, WE MAKE EXCUSES. THESE 00:45:05.069 --> 00:45:06.103 PEOPLE GO OUT THERE AND KEEP 00:45:06.170 --> 00:45:11.108 DOING IT. EVEN YOUR FIRST TIME. 00:45:11.175 --> 00:45:15.045 SO I APPLAUD YOU ON YOUR EFFORT 00:45:15.112 --> 00:45:17.614 TO TRY AND GET THIS. YOU KNOW, 00:45:17.681 --> 00:45:18.949 THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN 00:45:19.016 --> 00:45:20.984 GET HUNG UP ON. A LOT OF OUR 00:45:21.051 --> 00:45:22.319 BILLS GET KILLED. PEOPLE GET 00:45:22.386 --> 00:45:24.822 HUNG UP ON OUR BILLS, LITTLE 00:45:24.888 --> 00:45:26.290 TECHNICALITIES HERE AND THERE. 00:45:26.356 --> 00:45:28.025 BUT THE BIG EFFORT THAT YOU'RE 00:45:28.092 --> 00:45:31.261 TRYING TO DO IS TO STOP THAT, 00:45:31.328 --> 00:45:33.831 STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING. YOU 00:45:33.897 --> 00:45:36.300 WOULD DO A LOT OF FIRST 00:45:36.366 --> 00:45:40.671 RESPONDERS A FAVOR. BY NOT 00:45:40.737 --> 00:45:49.613 LETTING THAT HAPPEN. SO FOR ALL 00:45:49.680 --> 00:45:51.548 YOU FOLKS THAT THINK THAT 00:45:51.615 --> 00:45:55.119 YOU'RE GOING TO FIX THIS BY 00:45:55.185 --> 00:45:56.820 SLAPPING SOMEBODY ON THE HAND 00:45:56.887 --> 00:45:58.722 BY MAKING EXCUSES FOR, WELL, 00:45:58.789 --> 00:46:01.158 YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, YOU 00:46:01.225 --> 00:46:02.426 KNOW, IT AFFECTS THEM MORE. 00:46:02.493 --> 00:46:04.261 THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GO TO 00:46:04.328 --> 00:46:07.698 WORK, BE S GET A BUS PASS, GET 00:46:07.764 --> 00:46:10.567 A RIDE, GET A BIKE, GET 00:46:10.634 --> 00:46:11.935 ELECTRIC BIKES, DON'T HAVE TO 00:46:12.002 --> 00:46:14.238 PEDAL. BUT FOR PETE'S SAKE, WE 00:46:14.304 --> 00:46:15.906 GOT TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE 00:46:15.973 --> 00:46:19.510 FOR THEIR CRAPPY BEHAVIOR, 00:46:19.576 --> 00:46:20.978 MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM IS NOT 00:46:21.044 --> 00:46:22.579 GOING TO HELP THEM. IT'S NOT 00:46:22.646 --> 00:46:23.747 GOING TO KEEP THEM FROM DOING 00:46:23.814 --> 00:46:26.316 WHAT THEY'RE DOING LIKE THIS. 00:46:26.383 --> 00:46:29.086 SO ANYWAY, I'LL BE SUPPORTING 00:46:29.153 --> 00:46:32.156 YOUR BILL, WHATEVER FORM IT 00:46:32.222 --> 00:46:33.924 COMES OUT OF. I HOPE WE CAN 00:46:33.991 --> 00:46:36.493 RESOLVE ALL THESE CONCERNS. BUT 00:46:36.560 --> 00:46:38.595 THE STERILE ENVIRONMENT OF A 00:46:38.662 --> 00:46:44.001 COURTROOM DOES NOT COMPARE WITH 00:46:44.067 --> 00:46:47.938 SEEING THAT OVER AND OVER AND 00:46:48.005 --> 00:46:54.845 OVER. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, 00:46:54.912 --> 00:46:58.715 SENATOR. WELL, I WANT TO THANK 00:46:58.782 --> 00:47:00.184 MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR 00:47:00.250 --> 00:47:04.922 COMMENTS. AND I DO HAVE A DUE 00:47:04.988 --> 00:47:07.057 PASS RECOMMENDATION THIS BILL, 00:47:07.124 --> 00:47:09.593 BUT I APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S 00:47:09.660 --> 00:47:11.695 WILLINGNESS TO STRENGTHEN 00:47:11.762 --> 00:47:14.231 LANGUAGE IN THE BILL ON MAKING 00:47:14.298 --> 00:47:16.433 SURE THAT INSTALLERS ARE 00:47:16.500 --> 00:47:20.704 COMPLYING WITH THE. 00:47:20.771 --> 00:47:22.506 AFFORDABILITY PROVISIONS, THAT 00:47:22.573 --> 00:47:27.911 THERE'S NOTICE TO PEOPLE ABOUT. 00:47:27.978 --> 00:47:31.848 THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ELIGIBLE 00:47:31.915 --> 00:47:36.920 FOR SUBSIDIZED, PARTIALLY 00:47:36.987 --> 00:47:37.955 SUBSIDIZED. IT'S A SLIDING 00:47:38.021 --> 00:47:39.356 SCALE ON THE BASIS OF YOUR 00:47:39.423 --> 00:47:40.824 LEVEL OF INCOME AT THE POVERTY 00:47:40.891 --> 00:47:45.529 LEVEL, INSTALLATION, AND THEN 00:47:45.596 --> 00:47:47.397 ALSO HOLDING THE INSTALLERS 00:47:47.464 --> 00:47:48.532 ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT 00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:49.566 THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW 00:47:49.633 --> 00:47:51.435 AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S A 00:47:51.501 --> 00:47:52.569 REALLY CRITICAL PIECE TO MAKE 00:47:52.636 --> 00:47:54.438 SURE THIS LAW WORKS. I DO WANT 00:47:54.504 --> 00:47:55.572 TO JUST CALL ATTENTION TO ONE 00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:57.407 ISSUE, AND I THINK IT'S A 00:47:57.474 --> 00:47:58.909 TECHNICAL ISSUE THAT SMART 00:47:58.976 --> 00:48:01.044 JUSTICE DID RAISE IN THEIR 00:48:01.111 --> 00:48:03.580 LETTER, WHICH IS IT? I THINK 00:48:03.647 --> 00:48:06.717 THIS MAY HAVE BEEN CHANGED 00:48:06.783 --> 00:48:09.353 THROUGH THE THE DMV AMENDMENTS, 00:48:09.419 --> 00:48:12.556 BUT THERE IS A CHANGE TO THE 00:48:12.623 --> 00:48:16.426 DEFINITION OF DRIVING. THE BILL 00:48:16.493 --> 00:48:20.197 USES A PHRASE PHYSICAL CONTROL. 00:48:20.264 --> 00:48:22.299 AND THE CURRENT LAW SAYS THAT 00:48:22.366 --> 00:48:24.401 YOU YOU HAVE TO BE DRIVING OR 00:48:24.468 --> 00:48:25.869 OPERATING THE VEHICLE. I'M 00:48:25.936 --> 00:48:29.072 CONCERNED THAT IF YOU ARE IN A 00:48:29.139 --> 00:48:30.941 CAR, THE CAR ISN'T ON AND 00:48:31.008 --> 00:48:33.510 YOU'RE JUST SITTING THERE THAT 00:48:33.577 --> 00:48:35.312 THAT COULD THAT COULD BE 00:48:35.379 --> 00:48:36.446 CONSTITUTED AS PHYSICAL CONTROL. 00:48:36.513 --> 00:48:38.081 I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT. 00:48:38.148 --> 00:48:41.018 AND SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR OFFICE 00:48:41.084 --> 00:48:43.053 HAS EXPRESSED A WILLINGNESS TO 00:48:43.120 --> 00:48:44.221 TALK TO THE DMV AND GET 00:48:44.288 --> 00:48:45.289 CLARIFICATION ON THIS POINT. I 00:48:45.355 --> 00:48:47.190 JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 00:48:47.257 --> 00:48:48.392 GET THAT GET THAT CLARIFIED, 00:48:48.458 --> 00:48:50.127 BECAUSE I THINK THE INTENT IS 00:48:50.193 --> 00:48:51.228 IF YOU'RE DRIVING, OPERATING 00:48:51.295 --> 00:48:52.329 THE VEHICLE, THAT'S WHEN THAT'S 00:48:52.396 --> 00:48:54.698 WHEN IT'S AN OFFENSE. BUT IF 00:48:54.765 --> 00:48:55.866 SOMEBODY'S JUST SITTING BEHIND 00:48:55.932 --> 00:48:58.235 A VEHICLE AND IT'S NOT ON OR 00:48:58.302 --> 00:49:01.138 SLEEPING IN A VEHICLE, DOES 00:49:01.204 --> 00:49:02.572 THAT MEAN THEY HAVE PHYSICAL 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:04.007 CONTROL? I DON'T THINK THAT'S 00:49:04.074 --> 00:49:05.208 THE INTENT. SO I JUST WANT TO 00:49:05.275 --> 00:49:06.977 RAISE. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK 00:49:07.044 --> 00:49:08.111 YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. AND I 00:49:08.178 --> 00:49:09.746 THINK YOU CLARIFIED AND 00:49:09.813 --> 00:49:10.914 SUMMARIZED THE ISSUE VERY WELL. 00:49:10.981 --> 00:49:13.717 AND CERTAINLY, YES, THAT IS 00:49:13.784 --> 00:49:15.485 WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS 00:49:15.552 --> 00:49:17.654 CONSISTENT WITH WITH OUR INTENT 00:49:17.721 --> 00:49:20.624 THAT, YES, YOU ARE DRIVING THE 00:49:20.691 --> 00:49:22.926 VEHICLE. YES. FULL STOP. YEAH. 00:49:22.993 --> 00:49:25.262 I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY IS 00:49:25.329 --> 00:49:26.663 INTOXICATED AND WE DON'T WANT 00:49:26.730 --> 00:49:27.631 THEM DRIVING THE VEHICLE, RIGHT. 00:49:27.698 --> 00:49:30.000 SO YES, IT'S SITTING THERE TO 00:49:30.067 --> 00:49:31.735 TRY TO START IT. IT DOESN'T 00:49:31.802 --> 00:49:33.637 WORK IF YOU DECIDE TO SLEEP IT 00:49:33.704 --> 00:49:34.805 OFF. THAT'S A GOOD OUTCOME. YES, 00:49:34.871 --> 00:49:38.909 100%. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. WE 00:49:38.975 --> 00:49:41.011 HAVE HAD DISCUSSION TO SEE IF 00:49:41.078 --> 00:49:42.145 THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS 00:49:42.212 --> 00:49:45.082 OR COMMENTS AND JUST SAY THAT, 00:49:45.148 --> 00:49:46.483 YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF 00:49:46.550 --> 00:49:48.018 SEVERAL BILLS THAT IS MOVING 00:49:48.085 --> 00:49:49.720 THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE, 00:49:49.786 --> 00:49:50.821 INCLUDING A BILL BY OUR 00:49:50.887 --> 00:49:52.989 COLLEAGUE, SENATOR ARCHULETA, I 00:49:53.056 --> 00:49:55.325 THINK, BUILDS ON ONE REPORTING 00:49:55.392 --> 00:49:57.260 BY CALMATTERS THIS YEAR THAT 00:49:57.327 --> 00:49:58.729 TALKED ABOUT THE REAL LACK OF, 00:49:58.795 --> 00:50:02.299 OF, OF ACCOUNTABILITY BY DMV 00:50:02.366 --> 00:50:03.467 OVER PEOPLE THAT ARE ENGAGING 00:50:03.533 --> 00:50:04.668 IN RECKLESS DRIVING AND DRIVING 00:50:04.735 --> 00:50:06.703 UNDER THE INFLUENCE, I THINK 00:50:06.770 --> 00:50:08.071 BUILDS ON, I THINK, SOME OF THE 00:50:08.138 --> 00:50:08.872 CONVERSATIONS YOU STARTED 00:50:08.939 --> 00:50:09.906 EARLIER THIS YEAR WITH THE 00:50:09.973 --> 00:50:11.808 JOINT HEARING THAT WE HAD WITH 00:50:11.875 --> 00:50:12.709 THE SENATE TRANSPORTATION 00:50:12.776 --> 00:50:13.777 COMMITTEE ON THE ISSUE OF 00:50:13.844 --> 00:50:17.114 IMPAIRED DRIVING. AND SO THERE 00:50:17.180 --> 00:50:18.348 ARE MANY DIFFERENT BILLS THAT 00:50:18.415 --> 00:50:19.549 ARE TRYING TO TACKLE THIS ISSUE 00:50:19.616 --> 00:50:21.385 IN A VARIETY OF WAYS, INCLUDING 00:50:21.451 --> 00:50:23.553 REPEAT OFFENDERS, WHICH IS A 00:50:23.620 --> 00:50:25.188 VERY, VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. BUT 00:50:25.255 --> 00:50:26.289 THIS IS REALLY TRYING TO GET 00:50:26.356 --> 00:50:28.325 AHEAD OF THE ISSUE TO MAKE SURE 00:50:28.392 --> 00:50:29.659 THAT ONCE THE FIRST OFFENSE 00:50:29.726 --> 00:50:33.263 HAPPENS, THAT ONE, WE ARE 00:50:33.330 --> 00:50:34.698 CREATING A DISINCENTIVE FOR 00:50:34.765 --> 00:50:36.466 PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE 00:50:36.533 --> 00:50:37.868 IMPAIRED SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T 00:50:37.934 --> 00:50:39.069 BECOME REPEAT OFFENDERS AND 00:50:39.136 --> 00:50:40.470 HAVE THE TRAGIC CONSEQUENCES, 00:50:40.537 --> 00:50:42.239 INCLUDING WHAT YOU AND YOUR 00:50:42.305 --> 00:50:43.807 FAMILY HAVE HAD TO ENDURE, AND 00:50:43.874 --> 00:50:45.442 TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT IF 00:50:45.509 --> 00:50:47.344 SOMEBODY IS DRIVING, THAT 00:50:47.411 --> 00:50:48.945 THEY'RE NOT DRIVING IMPAIRED, 00:50:49.012 --> 00:50:50.080 AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT 00:50:50.147 --> 00:50:51.148 THEY'RE SAFE DRIVING ON OUR 00:50:51.214 --> 00:50:52.315 ROADS. SO I THANK YOU FOR 00:50:52.382 --> 00:50:54.050 BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD, AND 00:50:54.117 --> 00:50:55.318 I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO MAKE 00:50:55.385 --> 00:50:57.087 A CLOSING STATEMENT. THANK YOU. 00:50:57.154 --> 00:50:58.255 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND I DO 00:50:58.321 --> 00:51:00.223 WANT TO JUST THANK YOU AND YOUR 00:51:00.290 --> 00:51:01.658 COMMITTEE STAFF FOR YOUR 00:51:01.725 --> 00:51:02.659 ENGAGEMENT ON THIS BILL, AS 00:51:02.726 --> 00:51:05.562 WELL AS THE DMV AND THE 00:51:05.629 --> 00:51:07.297 ADMINISTRATION. AND I REALLY 00:51:07.364 --> 00:51:10.267 WANT TO THANK COLIN AND THE 00:51:10.333 --> 00:51:12.903 OTHER MADD ADVOCATES WHO HAVE 00:51:12.969 --> 00:51:15.272 BEEN HERE THROUGHOUT THIS 00:51:15.338 --> 00:51:16.506 LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO ADVOCATE 00:51:16.573 --> 00:51:19.276 FOR THIS BILL, ADVOCATE FOR 00:51:19.342 --> 00:51:21.011 OTHER FOR SENATOR ARCHULETA'S 00:51:21.077 --> 00:51:23.580 BILL, AND FOR OTHER BILLS THAT 00:51:23.647 --> 00:51:25.348 ARE A PART OF THIS PACKAGE TO 00:51:25.415 --> 00:51:27.184 MAKE CALIFORNIA ROADS SAFER. 00:51:27.250 --> 00:51:29.319 AND I'LL SAY AND APOLOGIZE IN 00:51:29.386 --> 00:51:31.788 ADVANCE IF I GET EMOTIONAL. SO 00:51:31.855 --> 00:51:35.158 MY SON DYLAN, IS 19, AND HE AND 00:51:35.225 --> 00:51:40.464 HIS FRIENDS JUST WENT ON A ROAD 00:51:40.530 --> 00:51:43.366 TRIP. AND I'LL SAY, AS I LAY IN 00:51:43.433 --> 00:51:45.569 BED THE FIRST NIGHT HE LEFT, I 00:51:45.635 --> 00:51:48.405 FOUND MYSELF THINKING OF COLIN 00:51:48.472 --> 00:51:52.709 AND RUBY AND HEART AND OF YOUR 00:51:52.776 --> 00:51:56.680 ROAD TRIP AND PRAYING. PRAYING 00:51:56.746 --> 00:51:59.249 FOR MY SON. AND SO I JUST WANT 00:51:59.316 --> 00:52:01.184 TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 00:52:01.251 --> 00:52:02.419 BEING HERE, BECAUSE YOU AREN'T 00:52:02.486 --> 00:52:04.588 HERE TO SAVE THE LIVES OF THOSE 00:52:04.654 --> 00:52:06.790 BEAUTIFUL KIDS. YOU'RE HERE TO 00:52:06.857 --> 00:52:09.726 SAVE THE LIVES OF MY KIDS AND 00:52:09.793 --> 00:52:12.863 YOUR KIDS AND ALL OF OUR KIDS. 00:52:12.929 --> 00:52:14.998 SO I AM REALLY, REALLY GRATEFUL 00:52:15.065 --> 00:52:17.200 FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU AND 00:52:17.267 --> 00:52:19.703 MADD ARE DOING TO ADVANCE 00:52:19.769 --> 00:52:21.037 POLICIES TO MAKE CALIFORNIA 00:52:21.104 --> 00:52:23.373 ROADS SAFER, AND TO SAVE LIVES 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.943 ALL ACROSS THE STATE. AND I 00:52:27.010 --> 00:52:29.079 RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. 00:52:29.145 --> 00:52:30.614 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ASSEMBLY. 00:52:30.680 --> 00:52:33.383 A MOTION ON THE BILL MOVED BY 00:52:33.450 --> 00:52:35.051 SENATOR WIENER. OKAY. THE 00:52:35.118 --> 00:52:36.853 MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO THE 00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.523 COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION. 00:52:39.589 --> 00:52:42.759 PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. AB 1830. 00:52:42.826 --> 00:52:45.028 THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO 00:52:45.095 --> 00:52:46.196 TRANSPORTATION. SENATORS ARE 00:52:46.263 --> 00:52:50.333 AGAIN ARGUING. I SEE SARAH VÚI. 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.168 CABALLERO. CABALLERO. AYE. 00:52:52.235 --> 00:52:56.540 CORTEZ. PEREZ. WIENER WIENER. 00:52:56.606 --> 00:52:57.307 AYE. WE'LL KEEP THAT BILL ON 00:52:57.374 --> 00:52:59.075 CALL FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. AND 00:52:59.142 --> 00:53:00.076 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 00:53:00.143 --> 00:53:01.077 ASSEMBLYMAN. THANK YOU VERY 00:53:01.144 --> 00:53:02.245 MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND 00:53:02.312 --> 00:53:03.280 COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THANK YOU. 00:53:03.346 --> 00:53:04.548 WE HAVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR, 00:53:04.614 --> 00:53:06.449 WHICH IS FILED IN TO AB 2796. 00:53:06.516 --> 00:53:09.085 ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOVED BY 00:53:09.152 --> 00:53:09.920 SENATOR WIENER. THANK YOU. IF 00:53:09.986 --> 00:53:11.821 WE CAN, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 00:53:11.888 --> 00:53:16.626 PEREZ WIENER WIENER. AYE. NØ 00:53:16.693 --> 00:53:18.728 CONSENT. OH, YEAH. WE HAVE TO 00:53:18.795 --> 00:53:20.230 START FROM THE TOP. OH. I'M 00:53:20.297 --> 00:53:24.200 SORRY. OKAY. FOLLOWED HIM TO AB 00:53:24.267 --> 00:53:27.404 2796. OKAY. SENATORS ARGUING. 00:53:27.470 --> 00:53:32.742 AYE, SALADO. CABALLERO. CORTEZ. 00:53:32.809 --> 00:53:35.412 PEREZ. WIENER. GOT IT. OKAY, 00:53:35.478 --> 00:53:37.147 WE'LL KEEP THAT, SENATORS. AND 00:53:37.213 --> 00:53:38.949 THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. WE WILL 00:53:39.015 --> 00:53:42.018 RECESS THE COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE 00:53:42.085 --> 00:53:43.954 SENATOR PEREZ WILL BE COMING TO 00:53:44.020 --> 00:53:56.232 CAST THEIR VOTES. THANK YOU. 00:53:56.299 --> 00:53:57.400 RECONVENE THE SENATE PUBLIC 00:53:57.467 --> 00:54:01.004 SAFETY COMMITTEE HEARING. AND 00:54:01.071 --> 00:54:04.541 WE HAD BILL PRESENTATIONS. AND 00:54:04.608 --> 00:54:06.843 SO WE WILL START FIRST WITH THE 00:54:06.910 --> 00:54:08.011 VOTE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, 00:54:08.078 --> 00:54:10.347 WHICH CONSISTS OF FILE ITEM TWO, 00:54:10.413 --> 00:54:12.749 AB 2796 BY THE ASSEMBLY 00:54:12.816 --> 00:54:13.850 COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY. IF 00:54:13.917 --> 00:54:16.820 WE CAN CALL THE ROLL, PEREZ 00:54:16.886 --> 00:54:18.321 PEREZ I CONSENT IS APPROVED ON 00:54:18.388 --> 00:54:20.123 A VOTE OF 6 TO 0. AND THEN 00:54:20.190 --> 00:54:21.992 WE'LL NOW TAKE UP ITEM ONE AB 00:54:22.058 --> 00:54:23.293 1830 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:24.728 PETRIE-NORRIS. THE MOTION IS 00:54:24.794 --> 00:54:26.596 DUE. PASSED THE COMMITTEE ON 00:54:26.663 --> 00:54:28.698 TRANSPORTATION, AB 1830. THE 00:54:28.765 --> 00:54:30.834 MOTION IS DUE. PASSED TO 00:54:30.900 --> 00:54:32.002 TRANSPORTATION. SENATORS 00:54:32.068 --> 00:54:34.471 ARGUING VOTING I SARAH. VOTING 00:54:34.537 --> 00:54:37.307 AYE. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE. OKAY. 00:54:37.374 --> 00:54:39.576 THAT BILL IS OUT ON A VOTE OF 5 00:54:39.643 --> 00:54:42.012 TO 0 WITH THAT THAT THAT IS OUR 00:54:42.078 --> 00:54:44.114 AGENDA. THIS MEETING IS NOW 00:54:44.180 --> 00:55:01.631 ADJOURNED. THANKS.