Mailman 3 February 2013 - Pythonmac-SIG

How to make py2app app stub link to Cocoa framework?
by Kevin Walzer March 31, 2013

March 31, 2013

I've been trying to get one of my Python-Tk applications to integrate with Lion's sandboxing framework (for Mac App Store submission) and have been having difficulty. Based on some feedback I received in the Apple Developer forums, it appears that part of the issue is that the executable stub created by py2app does not link to the Cocoa frameworks. A quick run of otool -L confirms this: Kevin-Walzers-MacBook:~ kevin$ otool -L /Users/kevin/Programming/quickwho/cbk/QuickWho.app/Contents/MacOS/QuickWho /Users/kevin/Programming/quickwho/cbk/QuickWho.app/Contents/MacOS/QuickWho: /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 832.0.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 125.2.10) Is there any way I can get this executable linked to /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework? I didn't think install_name_tool would do the trick, as that just rewrites links, rather than adding them. A Any suggestions are appreciated. --Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app issue, app crashes on 10.7.5
by David Smith Feb. 27, 2013

Feb. 27, 2013

Hello, Were you able to resolve the crash problem on 10.7? If so, can you describe your solution? I just built an app with py2app on 10.8, and it crashes with identical exceptions on 10.6. Thanks!

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Query Regarding IDE for python for GUI Apps
by Vishal Ruhela Feb. 22, 2013

Feb. 22, 2013

Thank you so much guys for the overwhelming response on this question. Really appreciate your piece of opinions. Thanks, Vishal -Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: DavidWorrall Sent: 22-02-2013 05:31 To: Pythonmac-Sig Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Query Regarding IDE for python for GUI Apps Has anyone had any experience with iep? http://code.google.com/p/iep/ "IEP (pronounced as 'eep') is a cross-platform Python IDE focused on interactivity and introspection, which makes it very suitable for scientific computing. Its practical design is aimed at simplicity and efficiency. " -David On 21/02/2013, at 11:05 AM, Adam Morris wrote: > Let me add to the discussion Aquamacs. What I like about it most is that > it supports all the usual Mac keyboard shortcuts but you can also hone all > the power of emacs. It also has a command line open tool, full screen > options, the kitchen sink. > > http://aquamacs.org > > -Adam > > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG ________________________________________________ Dr David Worrall. - Experimental Polymedia: worrall.avatar.com.au - Sonification: www.sonification.com.au - Education for Financial Independence: www.mindthemarkets.com.au _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

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Query Regarding IDE for python for GUI Apps
by Vishal Ruhela Feb. 21, 2013

Feb. 21, 2013

I want to start App development in python for Windows and Mac OS platforms, so please suggest me some IDE to work on. I have gone through some like PyCharm. But, either they are expensive or it was hard to configure on my machine. I have also tried komodo edit but really not getting comfortable with it. Please advice. PS: I am using Mac OS Lion. Regards, Vishal Ruhela ________________________________ From: Pierre Ratinaud Sent: 20-02-2013 03:08 To: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app : strange behavior maybe relative to encoding Hi, I have put this in my code : env = os.environ.copy() if sys.platform == 'darwin' and 'LC_ALL' not in env: env['LC_ALL'] = 'en_US.UTF-8' and now I use Popen like this : Popen(mycommand, env = env) Maybe it's a little less suboptmal then changing user's environment :) But it's not a definive solution cause I'm forcing a locale and I'm not sure it will work in every context... Time will say :) Thank you for your help Pierre Le 18/02/2013 22:18, Ronald Oussoren a écrit : > On 18 Feb, 2013, at 21:22, Pierre Ratinaud <ratinaud(a)univ-tlse2.fr> wrote: > >> Hi, >>> I'm not sure. What kind of encoding error occurs? The exact error message might give a hint as to what's going on here. >> The only message I had was in Console. The software I'm using with Popen (R) is complaining (in french) about encoding in my script. >> >> My tests and googling leave me to the conclusion that it is an environment problem : >> in the working cases, locale.getpreferredencoding() give me fr_FR.UTF-8 but when double-clicking on the app it gives me us_US.ASCII. >> In R, Sys.getlocale() give me : >> "LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8;LC_NUMERIC=C;LC_TIME=fr_FR.UTF-8;LC_COLLATE=fr_FR.UTF-8;LC_MONETARY=fr_FR.UTF-8;LC_MESSAGES=fr_FR.UTF-8;LC_PAPER=C;LC_NAME=C;LC_ADDRESS=C;LC_TELEPHONE=C;LC_MEASUREMENT=fr_FR.UTF-8;LC_IDENTIFICATION=C" >> and just >> "C" when double-clicking. >> This happens with or without --emulate-shell-environment >> So environment (locale) is not set when double-clicking on app. Also, setting locale in my R script resolves the problem, but it's not a solution in my case (a lot of R script to change). I am about to test setting locale in python (with the env option of Popen), but I need to reboot in OS X : ) >> Thanks for your help. > The startup binary voor pyapp forces LC_CTYPE to en_US.UTF-8 during the call to Py_Initialize, and resets it to whatever it was before afterwards. This is primairly done to ensure a sane I/O encoding when using Python 3 (that is, for the '.UTF-8' bit). > > I can only test with 10.6 in a virtual machine, I should have some time later this week to do so (in particular to check what locale related environment variables are set automaticly there and to find why --emulate-shell-environmet doesn't pick those up). > > You can force the right settings by setting them yourself in your python script (os.environ['LC_CTYPE'] = 'fr_FR.UTF-8', etc., etc., before calling subprocess.Popen). That's suboptimal, but should at least give you a working program without changing all R scripts. > > Ronald > >> Regards >> Pierre >> >> >> >> Le 18/02/2013 13:28, Ronald Oussoren a écrit : >>> On 17 Feb, 2013, at 10:02, Pierre Ratinaud <ratinaud(a)univ-tlse2.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I have create a .app with py2app for a wxpython application. The resulting app does not work as expected if I double click on it (it works but somewhere in the process, an encoding problem appear from another program called with os.popen). This problem does not occur if I launch my app directly with python, it does not occur if I launch the app by double-clic on myapp inside the .app and it does not occur if I open the .app from a terminal with the "open" command. >>>> This is happening with python 2.7.2, wxpython2.9, py2app 0.7.3 under Mac OS X 10.6.8. >>>> What am I missing ? >>> I'm not sure. What kind of encoding error occurs? The exact error message might give a hint as to what's going on here. >>> >>> What's really strange is that double-clicking the app does not have the same behavior as calling the open command, I'd expect that those would be behave the same. >>> >>> Do you have a shell environment variable in your shell's profile (.profile/.bash_profile/...) that is needed by the other program? Those definitions aren't seen by applications launched through the Finger because the Finder doesn't read the shell's profile. You could try to use " python setup.py py2app --emulate-shell-environment" to build the app bundle, that activates a hack that does try to read the shell environment. >>> >>> Ronald >>>> thanks >>>> Pierre >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG(a)python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig >>>> unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG >>> >>> -- >>> Pierre Ratinaud >>> Maître de conférences >>> Département des Sciences de l'Education et de la Formation >>> Laboratoire LERASS : http://www.lerass.com/ >>> Université de Toulouse II - Le Mirail : http://www.univ-tlse2.fr/ >>> tel : 05 61 50 42 28 > > > -- > Pierre Ratinaud > Maître de conférences > Département des Sciences de l'Education et de la Formation > Laboratoire LERASS : http://www.lerass.com/ > Université de Toulouse II - Le Mirail : http://www.univ-tlse2.fr/ > tel : 05 61 50 42 28 _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Query Regarding IDE for python for GUI Apps
by Vishal Ruhela Feb. 20, 2013

Feb. 20, 2013

Hi Aahz, Thanks for the prompt suggestion, I have heard a lot about pyeclipse as well but somehow never used it. All, Anyway has anyone really tried komodo edit, I have it on my machine but quite clumsy to use. Regards, Vishal Ruhela -Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Aahz Sent: 20-02-2013 08:27 To: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Query Regarding IDE for python for GUI Apps On Wed, Feb 20, 2013, Vishal Ruhela wrote: > > I want to start App development in python for Windows and Mac OS > platforms, so please suggest me some IDE to work on. I have gone > through some like PyCharm. But, either they are expensive or it was > hard to configure on my machine. > > I have also tried komodo edit but really not getting comfortable with > it. vim is a great cross-platform text editor -- it can be used as an IDE, though it's really not the best tool if you REALLY want an IDE. Another popular option is PyEclipse. -- Aahz (aahz(a)pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book." --Cicero _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Query Regarding IDE for python for GUI Apps
by Vishal Ruhela Feb. 20, 2013

Feb. 20, 2013

IDLE is nice but it does not offer too many features that allows you to work on and manage a big project. Thanks for your input. Regards, Vishal Ruhela -Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Kevin Walzer Sent: 20-02-2013 08:00 To: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Query Regarding IDE for python for GUI Apps On 2/19/13 9:07 PM, Vishal Ruhela wrote: > I want to start App development in python for Windows and Mac OS > platforms, so please suggest me some IDE to work on. I have gone through > some like PyCharm. But, either they are expensive or it was hard to > configure on my machine. I like IDLE myself. Simple but adequate for my needs. --Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

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py2app : strange behavior maybe relative to encoding
by Pierre Ratinaud Feb. 19, 2013

Feb. 19, 2013

Hi all, I have create a .app with py2app for a wxpython application. The resulting app does not work as expected if I double click on it (it works but somewhere in the process, an encoding problem appear from another program called with os.popen). This problem does not occur if I launch my app directly with python, it does not occur if I launch the app by double-clic on myapp inside the .app and it does not occur if I open the .app from a terminal with the "open" command. This is happening with python 2.7.2, wxpython2.9, py2app 0.7.3 under Mac OS X 10.6.8. What am I missing ? thanks Pierre

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standalone build failing to find runtime on OSX Snow Leopard - intended target OSX Lion / Mountain Lion
by hari jayaram Feb. 19, 2013

Feb. 19, 2013

Hi I am using py2app version 0.7.3 With a python.org installed python ( It still installs into the framework location Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7) , I pip installed py2app . My setup script is identical what I used two years back and is reproduced below I can get the build to complete ..but when I try to open the app on the 32 bit machine I built it on or on the target machine which is a 64 bit Lion/ Mountain Lion machines I get an immediate termination with an error saying it could not find the python runtime. .............. 2/18/13 1:58:29 PM,Feb 18, 2013 GridZilla[19405] A Python runtime not could be located. You may need to install a framework build of Python, or edit the PyRuntimeLocations array in this application's Info.plist file. .............. I had gotten the build to complete using a previous version of py2app two years back. The code has changed ever so slightly --mostly in pure python modules. Please can someone give me pointers as to why the standalone python is not found by the app, Thanks a tonne Hari The setup file I am using is """ This is a setup.py script generated by py2applet Usage: python setup.py py2app """ from setuptools import setup APP = ['GridZilla.py'] DATA_FILES = [] OPTIONS = {'argv_emulation': True, 'iconfile': './gzilla_ico_fin.icns', 'semi_standalone':'False', 'includes': 'wx,reportlab,yaml', 'packages':('wx','reportlab','yaml'), 'site_packages': True} setup( app=APP, data_files=DATA_FILES, options={'py2app': OPTIONS}, setup_requires=['py2app'], )

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] bdist_mpkg replacement
by Matthew Brett Feb. 18, 2013

Feb. 18, 2013

Hi, > a while back there has been a discussion about Python 3 support in > bdist_mpkg. Basically, I was in the same situation as the original > poster and was looking for a way to produce binary packages for Python 3. > As it seemed that bdist_mpkg is not maintained anymore and it's using an > obsolete package format anyway, I started getting my hands dirty and > looked into writing a replacement for it. In the end, it wasn't actually > that difficult and it works fine for my project now. I'm maintaining bdist_mpkg, and it should support Python 3 now: https://github.com/matthew-brett/bdist_mpkg > So far, I didn't publish it anywhere but if there's enough demand, I'd > be happy to create a project space somewhere and make it available. > It's implemented as a regular distutils command (called bdist_osxinst, > similar to the existing bdist_wininst), so usage should be as you > probably would expect. It works with Python 2 and 3 and I tried to make > it fairly generic and not tailor it to my own project. > > So are there still some people around that would like to give this a try > or is the general opinion that things like easy_install or pip should be > the preferred method anyway? I for one would be very grateful if you did put up your project. The reason I picked up bdist_mpkg was because pip didn't do binaries, and easy_install required the command line, and seems to be eternally fragile. So, yes, please, do put up your project, I'd love to have a look, and I'm happy to switch if that seems like the best thing. Cheers, Matthew

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bdist_mpkg replacement
by Matthias Baas Feb. 18, 2013

Feb. 18, 2013

Hi, a while back there has been a discussion about Python 3 support in bdist_mpkg. Basically, I was in the same situation as the original poster and was looking for a way to produce binary packages for Python 3. As it seemed that bdist_mpkg is not maintained anymore and it's using an obsolete package format anyway, I started getting my hands dirty and looked into writing a replacement for it. In the end, it wasn't actually that difficult and it works fine for my project now. So far, I didn't publish it anywhere but if there's enough demand, I'd be happy to create a project space somewhere and make it available. It's implemented as a regular distutils command (called bdist_osxinst, similar to the existing bdist_wininst), so usage should be as you probably would expect. It works with Python 2 and 3 and I tried to make it fairly generic and not tailor it to my own project. So are there still some people around that would like to give this a try or is the general opinion that things like easy_install or pip should be the preferred method anyway? Cheers, - Matthias -

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