Mailman 3 August 2005 - Pythonmac-SIG

ANN: ActivePython 2.4.1 build 247 for Mac OS X
by Trent Mick Sept. 19, 2005

Sept. 19, 2005

ActivePython 2.4.1 build 247 for Mac OS X is now available for free download from: http://www.ActiveState.com/Products/ActivePython/ This release includes important updates to build 246. In particular: - ActivePython and py2app will now play nicely together. Previously py2app failed looking for version.plist in ActivePython's framework install. - ActivePython's license was clarified to specify that usage of ActivePython with wrapping tools such as py2app and py2exe are allowed. Please see the release notes for details: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/ActivePython/2.4/relnotes.html#releas… What is ActivePython? --------------------- ActivePython is ActiveState's quality-assured binary distribution of Python. Builds for Linux, Mac OS X, Solaris and Windows are made freely available. ActivePython includes the Python core and core extensions (zlib 1.2.1, bzip2 1.0.2, bsddb 4.2.52, Tk 8.4.9, and Tix 8.1.4) and is fully compatible with other Python distributions of the same version. ActivePython also includes a wealth of Python documentation, including: - the core Python docs; - Andrew Kuchling's "What's New in Python" series; - the Non-Programmer's Tutorial for Python; - Mark Pilgrim's excellent "Dive into Python"; and - a snapshot of the Python FAQs, HOWTOs and PEPs. An online version of the docs can be found here: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/ActivePython/2.4/welcome.html Thanks, and enjoy! Trent, Python Tech Lead -- Trent Mick TrentM(a)ActiveState.com

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Python 2.4.1 not replacing earlier versions.
by Simon Brunning Sept. 3, 2005

Sept. 3, 2005

Complete and utter Mac newbie here - be gentle with me! Hi, all. I've downloaded and installed MacPython 2.4.1 from undefined.org. It installed happily enough, and seems to run fine. But when I attempt to install PyObjC (from pyobjc-1.3.7-py2.4-macosx10.4.zip) it says that it requires Python 2.4. I think that may be something to do with the fact that the original version of Python that came with the machine is still 'in charge'. Starting Python on the command line gives me version 2.3.5 - and when I installed appscript, it beccame available to Python 2.3.5 but not to Python 2.4. Now, I can appreciate that changing the version of Python that the OS uses might not be a good idea, but how do I get 2.4.1 working with appscript and PyObjC? Or is that a bad idea? I'm running OSX 10.4.2 in a nice shiny new Powerbook, if that helps. ;-) -- Cheers, Simon B, simon(a)brunningonline.net, http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/

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py2app and Bittornado
by Brandon Sharitt Sept. 1, 2005

Sept. 1, 2005

I'm trying to get Bittornado to run on Mac OS X (10.4 with Python 2.3.5) but I've only ever dealt with Python at lower lever scripting stuff, never wxPython or another GUI stuff. py2app is supposed to be the tool to create Mac friendly Python applications(like py2exe on Windows), but the documentation for py2app doesn't seem to be much help. The setup.py script that comes with BitTornado doesn't run when I type python setup.py py2app and produces the following error: usage: setup.py [global_opts] cmd1 [cmd1_opts] [cmd2 [cmd2_opts] ...] or: setup.py --help [cmd1 cmd2 ...] or: setup.py --help-commands or: setup.py cmd --help error: invalid command 'py2app' (no module named 'distutils.command.py2app') When I drag the script to PackageInstaller, it creates a Mac installer package, but all that does is mostly copy the the sane stuff stuff to /usr/local/bin and when I try to run btdownloadgui.py all I get is: Traceback (most recent call last): File "btdownloadgui.py", line 29, in ? from BitTornado.ConfigReader import configReader File "/Library/Python/2.3/site-pack ages/BitTornado/ConfigReader.p y", line 40, in ? _CHECKINGCOLOR = ColorToHex(wxSystemSettings_Ge tColour(wxSYS_COLOUR_3DSHADOW) ) File "/BinaryCache/wxWidgets/wxWidg ets-2.root~174/System/Library/ Frameworks/Python.framework/Ve rsions/2.3/Extras/lib/python/w x-2.5.3-mac-unicode/wx/_misc.p y", line 145, in SystemSettings_GetColour wx._core.PyNoAppError: The wx.App object must be created first! I also made my own setup file using the sparse documentation on py2app, but that just produces a broken app. Maybe I got the setup.py wrong. Any help would be appreciated. Either reply to this or email me.

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PythonCard on OS X 10.4 with Python 2.4.1
by adriano＠euma.com Aug. 26, 2005

Aug. 26, 2005

Hello listers, "Samuel M. Smith" <smithsm(a)samuelsmith.org> wrote on 08/25/2005 10:53:55 AM: > Anybody have any luck in getting PythonCard to work on OS X 10.4x > with Python 2.4.1? > The PythonCard websit is limited to Panther instructions. I saw a > post where someone got it to work with Python 2.3.5. There's a current thread about this in the PythonCard-users group, under the non-clear subject name: Re: update (was: Re: [Pythoncard-users] supposed bug in PythonCard) Yes I originated the thread. I found a bug in Pythoncard with python 2.4.1 and wxPython 2.6.1.0 and PythonCard 0.8.1 It's not "supposed". It's a quite clearly a bug. The installation worked. The "Minimal" application started correctly and you can consider this as a test for correct installation, as stated in the tutorial. What I found is: a) when starting the resource editor, a .cfg file was looked for in PythonCard/somethin/something/ instead it was in PythonCard/ Now I don't remember exactly but you can read my posts. I reported it, I think Or you can follow the tutorial instructions and you probably reproduce it b) The ResourceEditor doesn't start correctly. It looks for sources to load in the wrong position, i don't know why. That' s it I think you can reproduce theese problems quite easly, if you try And if you can find something more than what I found, I'd be grateful if you would report too. Thanks so much Bye Adriano

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macholib example
by ah Aug. 26, 2005

Aug. 26, 2005

Hello all, Does someone have a usage example of macholib for Re-writing all Libraries in a directory with @executable_path ? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Arye.

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PythonCard on OS X 10.4
by Arthur Elsenaar Aug. 25, 2005

Aug. 25, 2005

Hi, trying to install PythonCard on OS X 10.4, but running into an import problem. I installed python2.4.1, wxPython2.6, TigerPython24Fix and TigerPython23Compat from Bob's packages page and added /usr/local/bin to my path. Python2.4 runs fine and I can import wx fine, but not pythoncard.. anyone know what can be wrong? Thanks, Arthur.

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Some questions about going to MacOS X 10.4
by Kent Quirk Aug. 25, 2005

Aug. 25, 2005

To this end, Bob, what would it take to make it possible to create 10.3-capable builds from 10.4? In other words, is it technically feasible to support this? If so, what has to be changed? If you could document what needs to happen, maybe some of the rest of us could tackle the pieces. Especially with the intel stuff coming down the pike, I'd dearly like to be able to develop the C++ portions of my app under 10.4 and XCode 2.1, but still ship apps that could run under 10.3. Kent -----Original Message----- Bob Ippolito wrote: On Aug 23, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote: > I've been considering upgrading my Mac to 10.4.2. However, I notice > that > there are very few python packages for 10.4 at > <http://pythonmac.org/packages/>. I was wondering if this was > innocuous > (i.e. those who build such packages just aren't at 10.4 themselves) or > something more ominous such as a problem with building python packages > on 10.4? The version marker for a package is the minimum required version (really -- the version of Mac OS X on which it was built). 10.3 packages work fine on 10.4, especially those for Python 2.4.

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Some questions about going to MacOS X 10.4
by Russell E. Owen Aug. 23, 2005

Aug. 23, 2005

I've been considering upgrading my Mac to 10.4.2. However, I notice that there are very few python packages for 10.4 at <http://pythonmac.org/packages/>. I was wondering if this was innocuous (i.e. those who build such packages just aren't at 10.4 themselves) or something more ominous such as a problem with building python packages on 10.4? Also, I distribute a semi-standalone python app (which includes everything except python itself). Right now it's compatible with 10.3.x and 10.4.x. But if I upgrade...are users on 10.3.9 likely to be able to use an app created under 10.4.x 9 (with the built-in python 2.3.5)? In case it matters, I presently create the app with bundlebuilder, though I plan to switch to py2app someday. As an aside, I'd love to upgrade to python 2.4.x but then to distribute my app I'd have to figure out how to build a fully standalone app (one that includes python). -- Russell

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Set/get finder color label of a file
by matthias.oberlaender＠daimlerchrysler.com Aug. 23, 2005

Aug. 23, 2005

> Oops, binary installer's older than I thought. You'll also need the > latest versions of aem and osaterminology: > > http://freespace.virgin.net/hamish.sanderson/aem-0.8.0.tar.gz > http://freespace.virgin.net/hamish.sanderson/osaterminology-0.6.0.tar.gz > > That should do it. Any problems, let me know. > > has > You are right, works fine now. Thanks! (Wouldn't it be a good idea to update the binary installer? ;-) ) -- Matthias

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SPE 0.7.5.c released (feature rich python ide)
by SPE - Stani's Python Editor Aug. 23, 2005

Aug. 23, 2005

Hi, A new version of SPE is released, see http://pythonide.stani.be I am eager to port SPE to the Mac. Recently I tried to put a lot effort to get SPE on the Mac. I started a spe-mac-user list and was posting there all kind of patches, than I had to wait for some reactions with feedback of tracebacks and screenshots. This went bit by bit and seemed endless. However it became clear for me that at least it should be possible to port SPE to the mac. But needless to say that development cycle was slow and very inefficient. Suddenly Rich Brown, a spe mac user, took the initiative to start a fundraising so I could buy a mac to develop SPE properly. For me this was more than welcome as I almost start giving up as developing SPE for Mac took me a lot of time in proportion to the effort I had to put on it. Moreover it frozes the development of SPE itself. This campaign looks like if it is going to work. This means I will buy a Mac and start finally the Mac port. As Hraban told me I should announce SPE to this list, I tought of giving it a try. To my surprise I found in the archives that there was already quite some posting about SPE. That gave me the hope this interest might not be gone. Therefore some of you might be willing to donate the last bits to make the purchase of a Mini-Mac for SPE possible. (Please mention with the donation is for the mac.) It would be nice if you consider this seriously. This is the deal: you give me a Mac and I give you SPE. Thanks, Stani http://pythonide.stani.be http://pythonide.stani.be/screenshots ---------------------------------------------------------------- More info about the fund raising: “*What it would be worth to you to have a new release of SPE running on your Mac Os X the same day as it appears on other platforms? $50? $75? $100? My company, Dartware, has contributed 250 Euros to start the fundraising. We're willing to give a major boost because it's worth it for us to have a nice environment for Python programming. <http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/python-spe-mac/2005-August/000054.html>*” /- Rich Brown (Dartware) <http://www.dartware.com/> /Do you work on Mac Os X? To support the development of SPE for Mac, some enthousiastic SPE users have started a fund raising campaign to buy a Mac. Acquiring a Mac for SPE will allow to optimize it properly and to release simultaneously for Mac Os X. Any donation is welcome, but of course generous donations are necessary. Due to the high Paypal commission fees, European users are explicitly requested to donate through IBAN. More info on the donation <http://www.stani.be/python/spe/blog/sm_donate> page. In the chart on http://pythonide.stani.be you see in red how much is still required to make the purchase (mini Mac & KVM switch) go through. If some people would donate 50 euros, this target could easily get archieved. Otherwise if you have an old Mac, which runs Os X and which you are ready to give to SPE, contact me <mailto:spe.stani.be%20at%20gmail.com?subject=About%20SPE...&amp>. If someone is able to convince Mac to do some sponsering, please contact me <mailto:spe.stani.be%20at%20gmail.com?subject=About%20SPE...&amp> as well. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Posting which started the fundraising: http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/python-spe-mac/2005-August/000054.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- List of people who donated (donations without paypal commission fees): * Rich Brown, Dartware (250 euro) * Brian Myers (100 euro) * Stefan Csomor, Advanced Concepts (50 euro) * Stefano Morandi (50 euro) * Kenneth McDonald (40 euro) * Phil Hargett (10 euro) Who is next?

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