Mailman 3 May 2000 - Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] More Mac CGI
by Erik van Blokland Aug. 21, 2000

Aug. 21, 2000

-- Just van Rossum [3/26/00 10:24 PM]: >I've revamped PythonCGISlave.py, >and it seems to be working nicely. Unix-CGI emulations is also pretty much >done, I just need to do more tests. Or maybe I'll just post it as it is... Post it bro, I have the Mother of All Python CGI's to test it with :) Let's see if filibuster.org runs on webstar! erik -- letterror

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MacOS / MPW & Command line arguments?
by Scott Bender May 31, 2000

May 31, 2000

I need to be able to run the python interpreter from a script in MPW and the python program needs arguments. When I try to do this from MPW I get the following: PythonInterpreter some_argument ### MPW Shell - Unable to create the finder parameter list for this application. ### MPW Shell - Unable to get information on "". # File not found (OS error -43) Is there any way to make this work? thanks, - Scott

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Per user dirs on Non-Unix platforms (was Re: [Python-Dev] Where to install non-code files)
by jdurchen＠murlmail.com May 31, 2000

May 31, 2000

I took a look at it and actually, it appers that the OS "blesses" the folder in the User's directory. I am sure that if I did a find folder, it would return this specific user directory. So in essence, it appears that the new MacOS9.0.4 multiuser system behaves a bit more Unix like than I first thought. In a standard user folder there is (Just after creating a new account) 1. Apple Menu Items 2. Desktop Pictures 3. Documents 4. Favorites (For Nav Services) 5. Internet Search Sites (Sherlock Plugins???) 6. Launcher Items 7. Preferences 8. PrintMonitor Documents 9. Shutdown Items 10. Startup Items James On Tue, May 30, 2000, at 04:11:08 pm Bob Savage <savageb(a)pacbell.net> wrote: > on 5/30/00 2:13 PM, James Durchenwald wrote: > > > It was I that actually said that. When logging out you get a VERY > > noticeable delay that I had attributed to the OS copying files. > > (There is also disk activity at logout time.) That was why I figured > > they had done something skanky like actually copying the files. I > > could most definitely been wrong. I could test this tonight when I > > get home to my Multiuser system if anyone cares. > > > > James, I would like to hear what you find out. I noticed that my > system > behaves fine for a while, but when my wife logs out something goes > haywire; > I end up with her desktop prefs and the apple menu shows her > "favorites" > folder instead of mine (although Nav services using apps -- such as > Outlook > -- have access to my "favorites" because I can still use it from the > save > and open dialog boxes). > > If it is a bother, don't trouble yourself on my account. > > best, > > Bob > > > > James Durchenwald jd(a)murl.com VP Service Enhancement 319.369.0344x203 Organize, store, and share your favorite bookmarks -- anytime, anywhere, FREE! ------------------------------------------------------------------ You've received MurlMail! -- FREE, web-based email, accessible anywhere, anytime from any browser-enabled device. Sign up now at http://murl.com Murl.com - At Your Service

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MOSX prefs -- again
by Bob Savage May 30, 2000

May 30, 2000

'Lo all, I was perusing the MacOS-X docs online and I came across this: * > CFPreferences > > We have added new API to CFPreferences to support framework and suite > developers. First, we have added the constant > kCFPreferencesCurrentApplication; frameworks can pass this constant in place > of the application's name to retrieve preferences for the currently running > application. > > Secondly, we have made it possible for suites and frameworks to add their > preferences to an application's preferences. To add your suite preferences, > call CFPreferencesAddSuitePreferencesToApp(), passing the application's name > (or kCFPreferencesCurrentApplication for the currently running application) > and the name of your suite preferences. You can later remove your preferences > by calling CFPreferencesRemoveSuitePreferencesFromApp() if you wish. Finally, > set preferences for your suite by calling CFPreferencesSetValue(), passing > your suite's name in place of the application name. The user name and host > name arguments are as for applications; typically, you will pass a user name > of kCFPreferencesCurrentUser and a host name of kCFPreferencesAnyHost. CF refers to Core Foundation which is a part of Core Services -- the layer resting directly on top of the Kernel, and is well beneath both the "Cocoa" and "Carbon" layers. I believe, therefore, that it is available to both API sets, or perhaps more acurately it is implemented in them both, invoking CFPreferencesSetValue or whatever is appropriate. (BTW, I like that "Host" bit! Sounds great in a computer lab environment) Bob * Source: <http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/System/Documentation/Developer/R eleaseNotes/CoreFoundation.html> ---- "The obvious road is almost always a fool's road." - W.S. Burroughs

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Per user dirs on Non-Unix platforms (was Re: [Python-Dev] Where to install non-code files)
by Jack Jansen May 30, 2000

May 30, 2000

Okay, from all the bits of knowledge imparted by the various contributors (thanks! this was all news to me!) I think we can safely assume that the following code will work under all macos versions, regardless of whether they're multiuser, 8, 9, X or whatever: vrefnum, curdir = macfs.FindFolder(-1, 'pref', 0) fss = macfs.FSSpec((vrefnum, curdir, 'myapplication preferences')) filename = fss.as_pathname() and if you're feeling fancy you can use the kOnSystemDisk constant for '-1' and the kDontCreate for 0 (or something like that). BTW: I doubt that MacOS9 actually copies the preferences folder around, as someone suggested, I would guess that it simply adjusts the value returned by FindFolder. Programs that don't use FindFolder but hardcoded pathnames get stomped on rather seriously in non-US MacOS versions since about 1992, so I don't think there's many of them left. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: Per user dirs on Non-Unix platforms (was Re: [Python-Dev] Where to install non-code files) (fwd)
by pf＠artcom-gmbh.de May 29, 2000

May 29, 2000

Hi, [me on python-dev]: > > Is there a reliable algorithm to find a "per-user" directory on any > > Win95/98/NT/2000 system? On MacOS? [response from Guido van Rossum]: > The Mac doesn't have an environment at all. > > > Idea: Wouldn't it be nice if the 'nt' and 'mac' versions of the 'os' > > module would provide 'os.environ["HOME"]' similar to the posix > > version? This would certainly simplify the task of application > > programmers intending to write portable applications. > > This sounds like a nice idea... My mac knowledge is still very limited. But recently I saw on a Mac running some MacOS Version 9.X a login dialogbox asking for 'username' and 'password'. Since this was a very new G400 without any third party stuff installed on, I guess some form of user accounts have been added to recent versions of MacOS. Right? May be someone working with the Mac on daily basis (Jack? Just?) can shed some light on this? Is there something like a per user directory on newer versions of MacOS? And if so, how to figure it out? Regards, Peter

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how to interrupt a running script in 1.6a2 ?
by David and Jessica Fashena May 29, 2000

May 29, 2000

Hello all, I have just begun using Python and have a basic question. I was running a script (pi.py) in the Python 1.6a2/Demo/scripts folder to calculate Pi forever. Having seen a few thousand digits, I was unable to halt the program, and ultimately had to force a machine restart. I tried a number of different key combinations e.g. cntrl-c, cntrl-d, ESC, command- etc. Is there a way to halt a running script? thanks much, dave fashena P.S. Machine info: PowerMac G3, beige, 266 MHz

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Quiet lately? Here's a big one....
by Jack Jansen May 29, 2000

May 29, 2000

> Using MiniAEFrame you can build a script that responds to specific > appleevents, which you can call directly from ScriptEditor/AppleScript > using that weird direct-event-calling syntax. Documented here: > > http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macos8/InterproCom/ > AppleScriptScripters/AppleScriptLangGuide/AppleScript.60.html#33963 > (URL should be 1 line) > > If you add nicely defined aete resources, you can write the higher level > applescript language that you can use in ScriptEditor/AppleScript. The > only editor for aete resources I've found it Resorcerer, costs something > but is worth it. There's an aete parser in gensuitemodule, so using that as documentation it shouldn't be too difficult to create a Python module that creates aete resources. Creating a genmoduleaete.py (or genclassaete.py, which is probably better) which creates a aete resource given a description (and which could possibly also generate the glue code which has to sit between MiniAEFrame and your class implementation) should be a couple of days work. If someone feels the urge I'll gladly accept contributed code:-) -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Quiet lately? Here's a big one....
by Erik van Blokland May 28, 2000

May 28, 2000

>At 13:30 Uhr +0200 26.05.2000, Jack Jansen wrote: >>And, as Python can also >>generate OSA commands you can indeed control lots of applications from >>Python. > >Unfortunately the reverse seems to be not possible (like calling Python >functions/methodes from Applescript, getting/setting attributes etc.). :-( Using MiniAEFrame you can build a script that responds to specific appleevents, which you can call directly from ScriptEditor/AppleScript using that weird direct-event-calling syntax. Documented here: http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macos8/InterproCom/ AppleScriptScripters/AppleScriptLangGuide/AppleScript.60.html#33963 (URL should be 1 line) If you add nicely defined aete resources, you can write the higher level applescript language that you can use in ScriptEditor/AppleScript. The only editor for aete resources I've found it Resorcerer, costs something but is worth it. http://www.mathemaesthetics.com/GenInfo.html Hope this helps, Erik van Blokland -- letterror

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Quiet lately? Here's a big one....
by Jack Jansen May 28, 2000

May 28, 2000

Benjamin, AppleScript will allow you very nice control over any application that supports it. Actually, it is not AppleScript per se but the underlying stuff, called Open Scripting Architecture. And, as Python can also generate OSA commands you can indeed control lots of applications from Python. There's a short introduction in the "applescript" section in Python:Mac:Demo (applescript.html, I think it is). Controlling low-level things, like pressing specific buttons or selecting certain items from a list in a dialog is not "the official applescript way", but as it is often useful for controlling applications that don't (fully) support applescript there are ways to do this. The two that i know of are QuickKeys and KeyQuencer. Both of these allow you to put things like "press button labeled "OK" from topmost dialog" or "type "A"" or such in your applescript (or your Python script: these things are modeled as applescript extensions, so you can also call them from Python with a bit of work). It is indeed a good idea to first read Apple's applescript documentation. I know that I had quite some difficulty understanding it at first, because this high-level philosophy is a good idea once you understand it, but it is rather unlike what any other scripting language provides. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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