Last night the filming through the secret cameras was a little bit annoying for me but I got used to it. It made the scenes look very claustrophobic but maybe that was the intention. Todd must have felt that his world had closed in because he had become closeted (no pun intended) in the flat. Are Corrie that clever though? I think they might have been in this case.
I agree, it was a bit claustrophobic but I can totally see why it was done that way and it was actually done well.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
It's appears to me that the writers are changing Treeo from just being a hateful bullying controlling man to one who is actually mentally ill. I hope they don't expect us to feel sympathy for him. He said he had the same problems with his wife as he's having with Todd, so his problems go way back.
Last night the filming through the secret cameras was a little bit annoying for me but I got used to it. It made the scenes look very claustrophobic but maybe that was the intention. Todd must have felt that his world had closed in because he had become closeted (no pun intended) in the flat. Are Corrie that clever though? I think they might have been in this case.
I agree, it was a bit claustrophobic but I can totally see why it was done that way and it was actually done well.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
What I'm finding strange is the complete turnaround of Christina. She's never been Treeo's number one fan and only a matter of weeks ago she seemed suspicious that there was something wrong with Todd. Now, her and George are rushing to Treeo's side in hospital and giving it all the "Oh poor Theo!" tosh! It's unbelievable that they haven't noticed how Todd literally flinches when Treeo touches him.
Git (who wouldn't have been interviewing Todd anyway due to lack of impartiality) seemed to be oblivious to Todd's body language. I think Todd might have been able to open up about the truth of the situation if it had been handled by someone more competent.
I'm wondering if Christina is starting to suspect that Theo is the aggressor going by the odd looks on her face during the meal.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
Well. I’m afraid they aren’t classified as mentally ill, but - abusers ARE somehow are fully committed to their version of events and I think it’s as nuanced as they take the reality, amend in their head to fit their agenda, and 100% believe their own hype. Until the day they die.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
Well. I’m afraid they aren’t classified as mentally ill, but - abusers ARE somehow are fully committed to their version of events and I think it’s as nuanced as they take the reality, amend in their head to fit their agenda, and 100% believe their own hype. Until the day they die.
Lets hope that if Todd goes with Theo to his therapy appointment it will be Theo's downfall.
Last night the filming through the secret cameras was a little bit annoying for me but I got used to it. It made the scenes look very claustrophobic but maybe that was the intention. Todd must have felt that his world had closed in because he had become closeted (no pun intended) in the flat. Are Corrie that clever though? I think they might have been in this case.
I agree, it was a bit claustrophobic but I can totally see why it was done that way and it was actually done well.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
It's appears to me that the writers are changing Treeo from just being a hateful bullying controlling man to one who is actually mentally ill. I hope they don't expect us to feel sympathy for him. He said he had the same problems with his wife as he's having with Todd, so his problems go way back.
So, she should able to substantiate Todd's experience/abuse but why didn't she warn Todd about Theo? Even the children must know what he's really like.
Street cars Christmas party consisted of the 2 owners Tim/ Steve and Cassie in the Rovers no drivers whatsoever , the extras budget must be zilch.
They could at least have at least have got some cardboard cut-out characters/mannequins and placed them around the bar. Surely, no one would have noticed.
Not only was there no one at the Street Cars Christmas party, it's nearly Christmas and the pub was practically empty just like the Bistro!
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
Well. I’m afraid they aren’t classified as mentally ill, but - abusers ARE somehow are fully committed to their version of events and I think it’s as nuanced as they take the reality, amend in their head to fit their agenda, and 100% believe their own hype. Until the day they die.
Lets hope that if Todd goes with Theo to his therapy appointment it will be Theo's downfall.
I suspect Thero is not actually going to his therapy sessions
Surely George and Christina would have noticed Todd being totally withdrawn during the meal? I wonder if he will actually start work back at the undertakers, or will Theo put a stop to that?
The whole Brody / Will / Daniel / Megan thing is a bit cringe. Brody needs a haircut, but he's not a bad looking lad so why hasn't he got a girlfriend, and why doesn't Will find someone of his own age? Is it because people can only date other people who live on the Street?
Last night the filming through the secret cameras was a little bit annoying for me but I got used to it. It made the scenes look very claustrophobic but maybe that was the intention. Todd must have felt that his world had closed in because he had become closeted (no pun intended) in the flat. Are Corrie that clever though? I think they might have been in this case.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
I did wonder that myself before he deliberately edited the video of the secret camera footage to erase all his own aggressive behaviour and only keep in the sections where Todd reacted to whatever Theo had done to him
He must know he is in the wrong to make those edits as he would have watched himself back. He now thinks he’s got ammunition he can threaten Todd with and take to the police should Todd ever report him, so he’s got something else to hold over him (unless Todd had the foresight to have the original footage backed up to the cloud somewhere)
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
Well. I’m afraid they aren’t classified as mentally ill, but - abusers ARE somehow are fully committed to their version of events and I think it’s as nuanced as they take the reality, amend in their head to fit their agenda, and 100% believe their own hype. Until the day they die.
Lets hope that if Todd goes with Theo to his therapy appointment it will be Theo's downfall.
I suspect Thero is not actually going to his therapy sessions
If he is going the sessions aren't doing much good. He's becoming more unhinged and violent by the day
Last night the filming through the secret cameras was a little bit annoying for me but I got used to it. It made the scenes look very claustrophobic but maybe that was the intention. Todd must have felt that his world had closed in because he had become closeted (no pun intended) in the flat. Are Corrie that clever though? I think they might have been in this case.
I agree, it was a bit claustrophobic but I can totally see why it was done that way and it was actually done well.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
What I'm finding strange is the complete turnaround of Christina. She's never been Treeo's number one fan and only a matter of weeks ago she seemed suspicious that there was something wrong with Todd. Now, her and George are rushing to Treeo's side in hospital and giving it all the "Oh poor Theo!" tosh! It's unbelievable that they haven't noticed how Todd literally flinches when Treeo touches him.
Git (who wouldn't have been interviewing Todd anyway due to lack of impartiality) seemed to be oblivious to Todd's body language. I think Todd might have been able to open up about the truth of the situation if it had been handled by someone more competent.
I'm wondering if Christina is starting to suspect that Theo is the aggressor going by the odd looks on her face during the meal.
George too, he had a suspicious look on his face when he was talking to Theo and Todd was just standing there looking scared.
Was the lap top the footage was on the same one that "accidentally" got dropped?
Presumably Deedee's crusade about experiences in child birth is dead in the water now?
No one seems to realise that there are four main languages in Singapore, one of which is English
This co parenting story is a bit bonkers really. To me its completely unrealistic to assume that they are both going to be in close proximity to each other for the next 18 years and not so long ago James was happy to take Laila to Los Angeles and deprive DeeDee.
I assume that Laila and Glory were with never ever seen or mentioned child minders when they all met up ?
That was one hell of a StreetCars get together. Was it just three people?
Last night the filming through the secret cameras was a little bit annoying for me but I got used to it. It made the scenes look very claustrophobic but maybe that was the intention. Todd must have felt that his world had closed in because he had become closeted (no pun intended) in the flat. Are Corrie that clever though? I think they might have been in this case.
I agree, it was a bit claustrophobic but I can totally see why it was done that way and it was actually done well.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
What I'm finding strange is the complete turnaround of Christina. She's never been Treeo's number one fan and only a matter of weeks ago she seemed suspicious that there was something wrong with Todd. Now, her and George are rushing to Treeo's side in hospital and giving it all the "Oh poor Theo!" tosh! It's unbelievable that they haven't noticed how Todd literally flinches when Treeo touches him.
Git (who wouldn't have been interviewing Todd anyway due to lack of impartiality) seemed to be oblivious to Todd's body language. I think Todd might have been able to open up about the truth of the situation if it had been handled by someone more competent.
I'm wondering if Christina is starting to suspect that Theo is the aggressor going by the odd looks on her face during the meal.
George too, he had a suspicious look on his face when he was talking to Theo and Todd was just standing there looking scared.
I was hoping that George had sussed out what was going on but when he met, I think it was Summer and Billly in the street, he told them that everything was fine with Theo and Todd and what happened was an accident
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
Yes, I know. I asked the question just to highlight that it seemed wrong. But Corrie always do this. The police in Corrie were far better when they weren't friends/neighbours/permanent characters. Craig also used to tell everyone the ins and outs of a case which should have remained private. Mind you, we also have self-elected cop, Carla Connor now. It's just surprising that she doesn't do some of the police interviews while Swain is at home doing nothing.
What is Swain actually doing now? Maybe I've forgotten some major incident / illness, but is she just sat at home watching Homes Under the Hammer etc all day or has she got a purpose?
Didn't Kit send he home to "get some sleep" about a week ago?
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
Yes, I know. I asked the question just to highlight that it seemed wrong. But Corrie always do this. The police in Corrie were far better when they weren't friends/neighbours/permanent characters. Craig also used to tell everyone the ins and outs of a case which should have remained private. Mind you, we also have self-elected cop, Carla Connor now. It's just surprising that she doesn't do some of the police interviews while Swain is at home doing nothing.
What is Swain actually doing now? Maybe I've forgotten some major incident / illness, but is she just sat at home watching Homes Under the Hammer etc all day or has she got a purpose?
She's sitting at home waiting for an explosive Swainfest storyline over Christmas. No spoilers but I heard a rumour that Becky might actually take that anorak off and get a decent haircut.
Becky has to be admitted to hospital to have the anorak surgically removed, she then follows the time honoured trope of evil character in a hospital wheelchair,, wheeling themselves into their victims room and trying to suffocate them....
What is annoying me about Todd/Theo is that Todd has actually told Theo he doesn't want to be with him and tried to get him to move out...yet next scene he is back in the flat being terrorised again.
Writers, either have Todd totally sucked in by the gaslighting, or end the storyline, it doesn't make sense for Todd to be totally aware of his predicament and how he is being manipulated, yet still stay with him, he admits he no longer loves him
and I've read Todd escapes from the flat, but returns..why????
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And George/Christina flip-flopping between being suspicious of Theo, to believing everything that comes out of his mouth!
It's particularly strange that Christina is like that. She didn't like Treeo from the first minute she met him, I think she actually had sharp words with him when they were at some do. He doesn't appear to like her either, he pronounced her name in a sneering way when he mentioned her to Todd. I thought she was on to what a nasty rat he is from Day 1, but apparently not.
Exactly, and that day she took him into the undertakers, and she knew something was wrong then.
I think re Todd he turned 40 recently and was bemoaning the fact he hadn't settled down with somebody. Does a 32 year old Todd find himself in a similar situation? I'm not so sure.
todd turned 40 and is 32?
I think Potter meant is Todd just so desperate for a relationship now he's hit his 40s, that he would put up with behaviour he wouldn't have accepted 10 years ago?
Street cars Christmas party consisted of the 2 owners Tim/ Steve and Cassie in the Rovers no drivers whatsoever , the extras budget must be zilch.
Which makes you wonder why Sally was so determined to wear a new dress? Maybe it was meant to be Steve, Cassie and Tim, meeting in the Rovers and having a quick drink before going to the "do"..then it was changed to them staying in the Rovers.
Last night the filming through the secret cameras was a little bit annoying for me but I got used to it. It made the scenes look very claustrophobic but maybe that was the intention. Todd must have felt that his world had closed in because he had become closeted (no pun intended) in the flat. Are Corrie that clever though? I think they might have been in this case.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
I did wonder that myself before he deliberately edited the video of the secret camera footage to erase all his own aggressive behaviour and only keep in the sections where Todd reacted to whatever Theo had done to him
He must know he is in the wrong to make those edits as he would have watched himself back. He now thinks he’s got ammunition he can threaten Todd with and take to the police should Todd ever report him, so he’s got something else to hold over him (unless Todd had the foresight to have the original footage backed up to the cloud somewhere)
Does Theo know about the other cameras? There were 3 frames out, yet we only saw the one he picked up on the "edit", hopefully Todd still has the other 2.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
Well. I’m afraid they aren’t classified as mentally ill, but - abusers ARE somehow are fully committed to their version of events and I think it’s as nuanced as they take the reality, amend in their head to fit their agenda, and 100% believe their own hype. Until the day they die.
Lets hope that if Todd goes with Theo to his therapy appointment it will be Theo's downfall.
I suspect Thero is not actually going to his therapy sessions
It was part of the storyline a couple of months ago that Theo lied to Todd about going. Presumably he is going now or he wouldn’t have suggested Todd joining him, but who knows!
As everyone has correctly concluded, like hell would Git be interviewing Todd. Not only does he know both parties, he’s the partner of Todd’s ex. How on earth could he be impartial?
I was confused about it going from Todd apparently having a chat to Git to then Git saying that rubbish about ‘based on the evidence I’m now arresting you…’ (along with the compulsory first name surname which really grinds my gears)
Todd would have been arrested from the scene, the attending officers would suspect he was the aggressor as Treeo was spark out, and then Todd would be able to have a solicitor etc. You don’t need evidence to arrest somebody just suspicion. It’s then the detectives job to establish the truth.
Presumably he was released without charge as Treeo said it was all an accident but they didn’t as much as go through a domestic abuse risk assessment with either of them.
But legal nonsense aside I actually thought the episode was quite chilling and pretty accurate about how some people treat their partners
Excellent insight as ever. I thought it ridiculous that Todd - who has an actual law degree! - allowed himself to be questioned without representation.
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
Yes, I know. I asked the question just to highlight that it seemed wrong. But Corrie always do this. The police in Corrie were far better when they weren't friends/neighbours/permanent characters. Craig also used to tell everyone the ins and outs of a case which should have remained private. Mind you, we also have self-elected cop, Carla Connor now. It's just surprising that she doesn't do some of the police interviews while Swain is at home doing nothing.
What is Swain actually doing now? Maybe I've forgotten some major incident / illness, but is she just sat at home watching Homes Under the Hammer etc all day or has she got a purpose?
Didn't Kit send he home to "get some sleep" about a week ago?
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
Yes, I know. I asked the question just to highlight that it seemed wrong. But Corrie always do this. The police in Corrie were far better when they weren't friends/neighbours/permanent characters. Craig also used to tell everyone the ins and outs of a case which should have remained private. Mind you, we also have self-elected cop, Carla Connor now. It's just surprising that she doesn't do some of the police interviews while Swain is at home doing nothing.
What is Swain actually doing now? Maybe I've forgotten some major incident / illness, but is she just sat at home watching Homes Under the Hammer etc all day or has she got a purpose?
She's sitting at home waiting for an explosive Swainfest storyline over Christmas. No spoilers but I heard a rumour that Becky might actually take that anorak off and get a decent haircut.
Becky has to be admitted to hospital to have the anorak surgically removed, she then follows the time honoured trope of evil character in a hospital wheelchair,, wheeling themselves into their victims room and trying to suffocate them....
What is annoying me about Todd/Theo is that Todd has actually told Theo he doesn't want to be with him and tried to get him to move out...yet next scene he is back in the flat being terrorised again.
Writers, either have Todd totally sucked in by the gaslighting, or end the storyline, it doesn't make sense for Todd to be totally aware of his predicament and how he is being manipulated, yet still stay with him, he admits he no longer loves him
and I've read Todd escapes from the flat, but returns..why????
.
And George/Christina flip-flopping between being suspicious of Theo, to believing everything that comes out of his mouth!
It's particularly strange that Christina is like that. She didn't like Treeo from the first minute she met him, I think she actually had sharp words with him when they were at some do. He doesn't appear to like her either, he pronounced her name in a sneering way when he mentioned her to Todd. I thought she was on to what a nasty rat he is from Day 1, but apparently not.
Exactly, and that day she took him into the undertakers, and she knew something was wrong then.
I think re Todd he turned 40 recently and was bemoaning the fact he hadn't settled down with somebody. Does a 32 year old Todd find himself in a similar situation? I'm not so sure.
todd turned 40 and is 32?
I think Potter meant is Todd just so desperate for a relationship now he's hit his 40s, that he would put up with behaviour he wouldn't have accepted 10 years ago?
Street cars Christmas party consisted of the 2 owners Tim/ Steve and Cassie in the Rovers no drivers whatsoever , the extras budget must be zilch.
Which makes you wonder why Sally was so determined to wear a new dress? Maybe it was meant to be Steve, Cassie and Tim, meeting in the Rovers and having a quick drink before going to the "do"..then it was changed to them staying in the Rovers.
Last night the filming through the secret cameras was a little bit annoying for me but I got used to it. It made the scenes look very claustrophobic but maybe that was the intention. Todd must have felt that his world had closed in because he had become closeted (no pun intended) in the flat. Are Corrie that clever though? I think they might have been in this case.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
I did wonder that myself before he deliberately edited the video of the secret camera footage to erase all his own aggressive behaviour and only keep in the sections where Todd reacted to whatever Theo had done to him
He must know he is in the wrong to make those edits as he would have watched himself back. He now thinks he’s got ammunition he can threaten Todd with and take to the police should Todd ever report him, so he’s got something else to hold over him (unless Todd had the foresight to have the original footage backed up to the cloud somewhere)
Does Theo know about the other cameras? There were 3 frames out, yet we only saw the one he picked up on the "edit", hopefully Todd still has the other 2.
I thought there were only two frames, and it hasn’t been made clear if Theo twigged about the kitchen one?
Either way, all the footage is timestamped so edits should be noticeable (and obvious to anyone who does a technical analysis of the video files should they ever be submitted as “evidence”).
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
Yes, I know. I asked the question just to highlight that it seemed wrong. But Corrie always do this. The police in Corrie were far better when they weren't friends/neighbours/permanent characters. Craig also used to tell everyone the ins and outs of a case which should have remained private. Mind you, we also have self-elected cop, Carla Connor now. It's just surprising that she doesn't do some of the police interviews while Swain is at home doing nothing.
What is Swain actually doing now? Maybe I've forgotten some major incident / illness, but is she just sat at home watching Homes Under the Hammer etc all day or has she got a purpose?
Didn't Kit send he home to "get some sleep" about a week ago?
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
Yes, I know. I asked the question just to highlight that it seemed wrong. But Corrie always do this. The police in Corrie were far better when they weren't friends/neighbours/permanent characters. Craig also used to tell everyone the ins and outs of a case which should have remained private. Mind you, we also have self-elected cop, Carla Connor now. It's just surprising that she doesn't do some of the police interviews while Swain is at home doing nothing.
What is Swain actually doing now? Maybe I've forgotten some major incident / illness, but is she just sat at home watching Homes Under the Hammer etc all day or has she got a purpose?
She's sitting at home waiting for an explosive Swainfest storyline over Christmas. No spoilers but I heard a rumour that Becky might actually take that anorak off and get a decent haircut.
Becky has to be admitted to hospital to have the anorak surgically removed, she then follows the time honoured trope of evil character in a hospital wheelchair,, wheeling themselves into their victims room and trying to suffocate them....
What is annoying me about Todd/Theo is that Todd has actually told Theo he doesn't want to be with him and tried to get him to move out...yet next scene he is back in the flat being terrorised again.
Writers, either have Todd totally sucked in by the gaslighting, or end the storyline, it doesn't make sense for Todd to be totally aware of his predicament and how he is being manipulated, yet still stay with him, he admits he no longer loves him
and I've read Todd escapes from the flat, but returns..why????
.
And George/Christina flip-flopping between being suspicious of Theo, to believing everything that comes out of his mouth!
It's particularly strange that Christina is like that. She didn't like Treeo from the first minute she met him, I think she actually had sharp words with him when they were at some do. He doesn't appear to like her either, he pronounced her name in a sneering way when he mentioned her to Todd. I thought she was on to what a nasty rat he is from Day 1, but apparently not.
Exactly, and that day she took him into the undertakers, and she knew something was wrong then.
I think re Todd he turned 40 recently and was bemoaning the fact he hadn't settled down with somebody. Does a 32 year old Todd find himself in a similar situation? I'm not so sure.
todd turned 40 and is 32?
I think Potter meant is Todd just so desperate for a relationship now he's hit his 40s, that he would put up with behaviour he wouldn't have accepted 10 years ago?
Street cars Christmas party consisted of the 2 owners Tim/ Steve and Cassie in the Rovers no drivers whatsoever , the extras budget must be zilch.
Which makes you wonder why Sally was so determined to wear a new dress? Maybe it was meant to be Steve, Cassie and Tim, meeting in the Rovers and having a quick drink before going to the "do"..then it was changed to them staying in the Rovers.
Last night the filming through the secret cameras was a little bit annoying for me but I got used to it. It made the scenes look very claustrophobic but maybe that was the intention. Todd must have felt that his world had closed in because he had become closeted (no pun intended) in the flat. Are Corrie that clever though? I think they might have been in this case.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
I did wonder that myself before he deliberately edited the video of the secret camera footage to erase all his own aggressive behaviour and only keep in the sections where Todd reacted to whatever Theo had done to him
He must know he is in the wrong to make those edits as he would have watched himself back. He now thinks he’s got ammunition he can threaten Todd with and take to the police should Todd ever report him, so he’s got something else to hold over him (unless Todd had the foresight to have the original footage backed up to the cloud somewhere)
Does Theo know about the other cameras? There were 3 frames out, yet we only saw the one he picked up on the "edit", hopefully Todd still has the other 2.
if hes going though all the video files on the computer they'd all be in the same place but separate folders for each camera, like the doorbell cam, not sure why there is another cam at the door facing the bathroom
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
Well. I’m afraid they aren’t classified as mentally ill, but - abusers ARE somehow are fully committed to their version of events and I think it’s as nuanced as they take the reality, amend in their head to fit their agenda, and 100% believe their own hype. Until the day they die.
i think it's like that even at the basic level of school bullying. that person looks like a rat so i need to laugh and comment on his looks, why not, its just a laugh, etc. like mason with liam.
there's some very deep psychological reasons why some people are just like that, was in a shop queue one time and this woman in front dropped her card and bent over to pick it up. some dirty sod behind me shouts nice view, i passed him a dirty look and said no need for that comment and he replied why not.
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
Yes, I know. I asked the question just to highlight that it seemed wrong. But Corrie always do this. The police in Corrie were far better when they weren't friends/neighbours/permanent characters. Craig also used to tell everyone the ins and outs of a case which should have remained private. Mind you, we also have self-elected cop, Carla Connor now. It's just surprising that she doesn't do some of the police interviews while Swain is at home doing nothing.
What is Swain actually doing now? Maybe I've forgotten some major incident / illness, but is she just sat at home watching Homes Under the Hammer etc all day or has she got a purpose?
Didn't Kit send he home to "get some sleep" about a week ago?
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
Yes, I know. I asked the question just to highlight that it seemed wrong. But Corrie always do this. The police in Corrie were far better when they weren't friends/neighbours/permanent characters. Craig also used to tell everyone the ins and outs of a case which should have remained private. Mind you, we also have self-elected cop, Carla Connor now. It's just surprising that she doesn't do some of the police interviews while Swain is at home doing nothing.
What is Swain actually doing now? Maybe I've forgotten some major incident / illness, but is she just sat at home watching Homes Under the Hammer etc all day or has she got a purpose?
She's sitting at home waiting for an explosive Swainfest storyline over Christmas. No spoilers but I heard a rumour that Becky might actually take that anorak off and get a decent haircut.
Becky has to be admitted to hospital to have the anorak surgically removed, she then follows the time honoured trope of evil character in a hospital wheelchair,, wheeling themselves into their victims room and trying to suffocate them....
What is annoying me about Todd/Theo is that Todd has actually told Theo he doesn't want to be with him and tried to get him to move out...yet next scene he is back in the flat being terrorised again.
Writers, either have Todd totally sucked in by the gaslighting, or end the storyline, it doesn't make sense for Todd to be totally aware of his predicament and how he is being manipulated, yet still stay with him, he admits he no longer loves him
and I've read Todd escapes from the flat, but returns..why????
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And George/Christina flip-flopping between being suspicious of Theo, to believing everything that comes out of his mouth!
It's particularly strange that Christina is like that. She didn't like Treeo from the first minute she met him, I think she actually had sharp words with him when they were at some do. He doesn't appear to like her either, he pronounced her name in a sneering way when he mentioned her to Todd. I thought she was on to what a nasty rat he is from Day 1, but apparently not.
Exactly, and that day she took him into the undertakers, and she knew something was wrong then.
I think re Todd he turned 40 recently and was bemoaning the fact he hadn't settled down with somebody. Does a 32 year old Todd find himself in a similar situation? I'm not so sure.
todd turned 40 and is 32?
I think Potter meant is Todd just so desperate for a relationship now he's hit his 40s, that he would put up with behaviour he wouldn't have accepted 10 years ago?
Street cars Christmas party consisted of the 2 owners Tim/ Steve and Cassie in the Rovers no drivers whatsoever , the extras budget must be zilch.
Which makes you wonder why Sally was so determined to wear a new dress? Maybe it was meant to be Steve, Cassie and Tim, meeting in the Rovers and having a quick drink before going to the "do"..then it was changed to them staying in the Rovers.
Last night the filming through the secret cameras was a little bit annoying for me but I got used to it. It made the scenes look very claustrophobic but maybe that was the intention. Todd must have felt that his world had closed in because he had become closeted (no pun intended) in the flat. Are Corrie that clever though? I think they might have been in this case.
I'm starting to wonder now if Treeo is not only an abuser but also completely unhinged and really believes he's done nothing wrong and it's all Todd.
I did wonder that myself before he deliberately edited the video of the secret camera footage to erase all his own aggressive behaviour and only keep in the sections where Todd reacted to whatever Theo had done to him
He must know he is in the wrong to make those edits as he would have watched himself back. He now thinks he’s got ammunition he can threaten Todd with and take to the police should Todd ever report him, so he’s got something else to hold over him (unless Todd had the foresight to have the original footage backed up to the cloud somewhere)
Does Theo know about the other cameras? There were 3 frames out, yet we only saw the one he picked up on the "edit", hopefully Todd still has the other 2.
I thought there were only two frames, and it hasn’t been made clear if Theo twigged about the kitchen one?
Either way, all the footage is timestamped so edits should be noticeable (and obvious to anyone who does a technical analysis of the video files should they ever be submitted as “evidence”).
Yes you are right, I was misremembering the kitchen one.
Yes we only saw the "edit" from the by the tv one, so hopefully the kitchen one is still recording...
Won’t the lap top have somewhere on the hard drive all the files recorded even though Theo altered them?
The sooner this awful story ends or Todd gets a pair the better.
The interfering MIL in the pub is over the top. She has far too much to say. I’m starting to really dislike her.
Just catching up from earlier in week, how on earth was Kit allowed to interview
Todd? Surely that wouldn't happen in real life.
As everyone has correctly concluded, like hell would Git be interviewing Todd. Not only does he know both parties, he’s the partner of Todd’s ex. How on earth could he be impartial?
I was confused about it going from Todd apparently having a chat to Git to then Git saying that rubbish about ‘based on the evidence I’m now arresting you…’ (along with the compulsory first name surname which really grinds my gears)
Todd would have been arrested from the scene, the attending officers would suspect he was the aggressor as Treeo was spark out, and then Todd would be able to have a solicitor etc. You don’t need evidence to arrest somebody just suspicion. It’s then the detectives job to establish the truth.
Presumably he was released without charge as Treeo said it was all an accident but they didn’t as much as go through a domestic abuse risk assessment with either of them.
But legal nonsense aside I actually thought the episode was quite chilling and pretty accurate about how some people treat their partners
Excellent insight as ever. I thought it ridiculous that Todd - who has an actual law degree! - allowed himself to be questioned without representation.
He should also realise that an edited video would not stand up in court as evidence.
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It's appears to me that the writers are changing Treeo from just being a hateful bullying controlling man to one who is actually mentally ill. I hope they don't expect us to feel sympathy for him. He said he had the same problems with his wife as he's having with Todd, so his problems go way back.
I'm wondering if Christina is starting to suspect that Theo is the aggressor going by the odd looks on her face during the meal.
Lets hope that if Todd goes with Theo to his therapy appointment it will be Theo's downfall.
So, she should able to substantiate Todd's experience/abuse but why didn't she warn Todd about Theo? Even the children must know what he's really like.
They could at least have at least have got some cardboard cut-out characters/mannequins and placed them around the bar. Surely, no one would have noticed.
Not only was there no one at the Street Cars Christmas party, it's nearly Christmas and the pub was practically empty just like the Bistro!
I suspect Thero is not actually going to his therapy sessions
The whole Brody / Will / Daniel / Megan thing is a bit cringe. Brody needs a haircut, but he's not a bad looking lad so why hasn't he got a girlfriend, and why doesn't Will find someone of his own age? Is it because people can only date other people who live on the Street?
I did wonder that myself before he deliberately edited the video of the secret camera footage to erase all his own aggressive behaviour and only keep in the sections where Todd reacted to whatever Theo had done to him
He must know he is in the wrong to make those edits as he would have watched himself back. He now thinks he’s got ammunition he can threaten Todd with and take to the police should Todd ever report him, so he’s got something else to hold over him (unless Todd had the foresight to have the original footage backed up to the cloud somewhere)
If he is going the sessions aren't doing much good. He's becoming more unhinged and violent by the day
George too, he had a suspicious look on his face when he was talking to Theo and Todd was just standing there looking scared.
Presumably Deedee's crusade about experiences in child birth is dead in the water now?
No one seems to realise that there are four main languages in Singapore, one of which is English
This co parenting story is a bit bonkers really. To me its completely unrealistic to assume that they are both going to be in close proximity to each other for the next 18 years and not so long ago James was happy to take Laila to Los Angeles and deprive DeeDee.
I assume that Laila and Glory were with never ever seen or mentioned child minders when they all met up ?
That was one hell of a StreetCars get together. Was it just three people?
I was hoping that George had sussed out what was going on but when he met, I think it was Summer and Billly in the street, he told them that everything was fine with Theo and Todd and what happened was an accident
Didn't Kit send he home to "get some sleep" about a week ago?
Becky has to be admitted to hospital to have the anorak surgically removed, she then follows the time honoured trope of evil character in a hospital wheelchair,, wheeling themselves into their victims room and trying to suffocate them....
Exactly, and that day she took him into the undertakers, and she knew something was wrong then.
I think Potter meant is Todd just so desperate for a relationship now he's hit his 40s, that he would put up with behaviour he wouldn't have accepted 10 years ago?
Which makes you wonder why Sally was so determined to wear a new dress? Maybe it was meant to be Steve, Cassie and Tim, meeting in the Rovers and having a quick drink before going to the "do"..then it was changed to them staying in the Rovers.
Does Theo know about the other cameras? There were 3 frames out, yet we only saw the one he picked up on the "edit", hopefully Todd still has the other 2.
It was part of the storyline a couple of months ago that Theo lied to Todd about going. Presumably he is going now or he wouldn’t have suggested Todd joining him, but who knows!
Excellent insight as ever. I thought it ridiculous that Todd - who has an actual law degree! - allowed himself to be questioned without representation.
I thought there were only two frames, and it hasn’t been made clear if Theo twigged about the kitchen one?
Either way, all the footage is timestamped so edits should be noticeable (and obvious to anyone who does a technical analysis of the video files should they ever be submitted as “evidence”).
if hes going though all the video files on the computer they'd all be in the same place but separate folders for each camera, like the doorbell cam, not sure why there is another cam at the door facing the bathroom
i think it's like that even at the basic level of school bullying. that person looks like a rat so i need to laugh and comment on his looks, why not, its just a laugh, etc. like mason with liam.
there's some very deep psychological reasons why some people are just like that, was in a shop queue one time and this woman in front dropped her card and bent over to pick it up. some dirty sod behind me shouts nice view, i passed him a dirty look and said no need for that comment and he replied why not.
Yes you are right, I was misremembering the kitchen one.
Yes we only saw the "edit" from the by the tv one, so hopefully the kitchen one is still recording...
The sooner this awful story ends or Todd gets a pair the better.
The interfering MIL in the pub is over the top. She has far too much to say. I’m starting to really dislike her.
Just catching up from earlier in week, how on earth was Kit allowed to interview
Todd? Surely that wouldn't happen in real life.
Theo leads Todd off to bed for a bout of passion....."come on, it's bedtime"...
I doubt Theo was controlling his ex wife, though he did control his previous male lover.
Talking of her ( and the kids), will we see her again?
He should also realise that an edited video would not stand up in court as evidence.