With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
Asked myself exactly that question. Perhaps @fayemian can give us the official police policy.
Thought it was quite well done up to the point Kit was involved
a) surely he would have to declare Conflict of Interest
b) I thought there were specially trained officers to deal with such cases or has SuperKIt have the approprite training
c) Treeo looked very well and was up and about quickly for someone who had just smashed his head through a table
Tonight's ep was good. The shots were sometimes annoying though. The content was shocking and probably not suitable for before the watershed and was this really a SL for Corrie? It's not meant to be so violent and gloomy.
On a lighter note, Sarah was doing what she's always doing - drinking wine.
Perhaps it's her secret of eternal youth. Maybe we all should take it up! 😉😄
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
The police probably suspect what's going on, but they can't take action unless someone makes an accusation and has evidence to back it up.
You'd think Kit would have given Todd the domestic violence helpline numbers.
Did Todd take the laptop to the repair shop that time? In which case perhaps the video footage is backed up there?
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
The police probably suspect what's going on, but they can't take action unless someone makes an accusation and has evidence to back it up.
You'd think Kit would have given Todd the domestic violence helpline numbers.
Did Todd take the laptop to the repair shop that time? In which case perhaps the video footage is backed up there?
I think your right, but like most Corrie scenes, it was extremely black and white questioning, and not a good indication for someone going through the same thing.
Although, least it wasn’t Swain doing the questioning and Todd would be doing 25 to life.
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
Thought exactly the same, he was so unsympathic to an obviously distressed Todd. I'm sure Git did get training but it all went over his arrogant head, he's always unpleasant.
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
Thought exactly the same, he was so unsympathic to an obviously distressed Todd. I'm sure Git did get training but it all went over his arrogant head, he's always unpleasant.
When he called him Mr Grimshaw he reminded me of Norman Wisdom.
why doesn't Todd go back to Eileen's? Surely he's not just going to continue to put up with Theo's behaviour?
There are complex dynamics at play here between Todd and Theo: these include trauma bonding; fear; learned helplessness; cognitive dissonance; complete loss of esteem, confidence and identity; isolation; shame; self blame; financial control; fear of stigma and judgment.
Gaslighting stands as one of the abuser’s most destructive weapons, steadily eroding the victim’s grip on reality. Manipulative tactics include rewriting shared memories and experiences, dismissing legitimate feelings and worries, shifting blame for abusive actions, cutting off support networks so victims have nobody to confirm their worries or experiences with. The cycle of abuse cycle will also include spats of “love bombing” – periods of intense affection and attention, warmth and kindness – followed by blanket silence or ‘stonewalling’. This emotional warfare steadily chips away at and erodes any ability for victims to trust their own judgment.
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
It was ridiculous. Another officer should have interviewed Todd. I also found George and Christina intensely annoying, especially as Christina as recently as two weeks ago had coffee with Todd and was worried about him. Now they both believe he could beat up Theo. I know it's part of the stupid storyline but really, George has known him a long time, he might have noticed a violent streak, if one was there. The way the episode was filmed also made me feel a bit seasick. Great acting from Gareth Pierce.
Thought it was quite well done up to the point Kit was involved
a) surely he would have to declare Conflict of Interest
b) I thought there were specially trained officers to deal with such cases or has SuperKIt have the approprite training
c) Treeo looked very well and was up and about quickly for someone who had just smashed his head through a table
He was fine, I'm surprised he didn't say 'alright, cocker', to the policeman in the hospital.
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
It was ridiculous. Another officer should have interviewed Todd. I also found George and Christina intensely annoying, especially as Christina as recently as two weeks ago had coffee with Todd and was worried about him. Now they both believe he could beat up Theo. I know it's part of the stupid storyline but really, George has known him a long time, he might have noticed a violent streak, if one was there. The way the episode was filmed also made me feel a bit seasick. Great acting from Gareth Pierce.
While I didn't like the episode, I do agree with that.
why doesn't Todd go back to Eileen's? Surely he's not just going to continue to put up with Theo's behaviour?
There are complex dynamics at play here between Todd and Theo: these include trauma bonding; fear; learned helplessness; cognitive dissonance; complete loss of esteem, confidence and identity; isolation; shame; self blame; financial control; fear of stigma and judgment.
Gaslighting stands as one of the abuser’s most destructive weapons, steadily eroding the victim’s grip on reality. Manipulative tactics include rewriting shared memories and experiences, dismissing legitimate feelings and worries, shifting blame for abusive actions, cutting off support networks so victims have nobody to confirm their worries or experiences with. The cycle of abuse cycle will also include spats of “love bombing” – periods of intense affection and attention, warmth and kindness – followed by blanket silence or ‘stonewalling’. This emotional warfare steadily chips away at and erodes any ability for victims to trust their own judgment.
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
There are complex dynamics at play here between Todd and Theo: these include trauma bonding; fear; learned helplessness; cognitive dissonance; complete loss of esteem, confidence and identity; isolation; shame; self blame; financial control; fear of stigma and judgment.
Gaslighting stands as one of the abuser’s most destructive weapons, steadily eroding the victim’s grip on reality. Manipulative tactics include rewriting shared memories and experiences, dismissing legitimate feelings and worries, shifting blame for abusive actions, cutting off support networks so victims have nobody to confirm their worries or experiences with. The cycle of abuse cycle will also include spats of “love bombing” – periods of intense affection and attention, warmth and kindness – followed by blanket silence or ‘stonewalling’. This emotional warfare steadily chips away at and erodes any ability for victims to trust their own judgment.
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
It was ridiculous. Another officer should have interviewed Todd. I also found George and Christina intensely annoying, especially as Christina as recently as two weeks ago had coffee with Todd and was worried about him. Now they both believe he could beat up Theo. I know it's part of the stupid storyline but really, George has known him a long time, he might have noticed a violent streak, if one was there. The way the episode was filmed also made me feel a bit seasick. Great acting from Gareth Pierce.
George and Christina being at Theo's bedside was also ridiculous and Christina saying to the cop that Theo wasn't fit to be answering questions about the alleged attack so best to leave it atm, the cop meekly scuttled off.
George who has known Todd for years would have been pacing the police station wanting to know what was happening with Todd.
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
Kit has been in * I shouldn't really be telling you this but* Craig mode when discussing the Costello / Becky situation with Carla .
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
Thought exactly the same, he was so unsympathic to an obviously distressed Todd. I'm sure Git did get training but it all went over his arrogant head, he's always unpleasant.
Also to say, he started off the interview as someone who knew him, and tried to be friendly as a way in, and then ended the interview treating him as a suspect.
A weird imbalance of trying to know him as a win in and then someone he didn't know.
One thing I did notice last night - it was quite subtle - was that when Theo was talking to the duty officer guy in the reception of the police station he kept glancing up at the camera, like he was making sure his conversation was being filmed/recorded (?) Although I'm not sure if the sound would have been picked up.
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
Kit has been in * I shouldn't really be telling you this but* Craig mode when discussing the Costello / Becky situation with Carla .
He is gone way beyond that he is desperate to tell her everything, she is now the first port of call for any new info.
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
Did Todd take the laptop to the repair shop that time? In which case perhaps the video footage is backed up there?
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
The police probably suspect what's going on, but they can't take action unless someone makes an accusation and has evidence to back it up.
You'd think Kit would have given Todd the domestic violence helpline numbers.
Did Todd take the laptop to the repair shop that time? In which case perhaps the video footage is backed up there?
The laptop and it's repair is presumably going to be significant. Maybe the repairer sees something on it and contacts someone? Probably bloody Kit, who shouldn't be anywhere near the case anyway.
Todd was on TV the other day, saying how wonderful the storyline is, and how brilliant the writers are to have built it up for so long, going back two years to when Todd suddenly became more likeable.
Personally, I think it's dragged on too long, and notwithstanding the excellent and detailed post upthread about how these things develop in real life, I still don't think Todd would have allowed himself to get into this situation, let alone tolerated it for so long.
I do hope, when the episodes move to half an hour next year, things move along a little more succinctly, and aren't spanned out for twice as long, due to the shorter episodes.
As everyone has correctly concluded, like hell would Git be interviewing Todd. Not only does he know both parties, he’s the partner of Todd’s ex. How on earth could he be impartial?
I was confused about it going from Todd apparently having a chat to Git to then Git saying that rubbish about ‘based on the evidence I’m now arresting you…’ (along with the compulsory first name surname which really grinds my gears)
Todd would have been arrested from the scene, the attending officers would suspect he was the aggressor as Treeo was spark out, and then Todd would be able to have a solicitor etc. You don’t need evidence to arrest somebody just suspicion. It’s then the detectives job to establish the truth.
Presumably he was released without charge as Treeo said it was all an accident but they didn’t as much as go through a domestic abuse risk assessment with either of them.
But legal nonsense aside I actually thought the episode was quite chilling and pretty accurate about how some people treat their partners
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
Did Todd take the laptop to the repair shop that time? In which case perhaps the video footage is backed up there?
"That place in Inkerman Street"?
Yes I was wondering if that place in Inkerman St would be open at 8am on. Sunday?
With the state of the flat and the fighting it's a miracle the photos recording it all stayed in position.
Why was Todd so coy? The cameras would have recorded what really happened, but then again, maybe if the copper interviewing him wasn't a near neighbour he may have been more likely to tell him more his private business.
That is true.
Are the police allowed to be involved in friends/neighbours cases?
Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
It was ridiculous. Another officer should have interviewed Todd. I also found George and Christina intensely annoying, especially as Christina as recently as two weeks ago had coffee with Todd and was worried about him. Now they both believe he could beat up Theo. I know it's part of the stupid storyline but really, George has known him a long time, he might have noticed a violent streak, if one was there. The way the episode was filmed also made me feel a bit seasick. Great acting from Gareth Pierce.
George and Christina being at Theo's bedside was also ridiculous and Christina saying to the cop that Theo wasn't fit to be answering questions about the alleged attack so best to leave it atm, the cop meekly scuttled off.
George who has known Todd for years would have been pacing the police station wanting to know what was happening with Todd.
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Further to this, I found the writing of Kit’s character quite a stretch during the questioning scene.
You could see how timid and defensive Todd was during the interview, are police officers not trained to scope out body language and behaviour, especially in these kind of cases?
Asked myself exactly that question. Perhaps @fayemian can give us the official police policy.
a) surely he would have to declare Conflict of Interest
b) I thought there were specially trained officers to deal with such cases or has SuperKIt have the approprite training
c) Treeo looked very well and was up and about quickly for someone who had just smashed his head through a table
Perhaps it's her secret of eternal youth. Maybe we all should take it up! 😉😄
The police probably suspect what's going on, but they can't take action unless someone makes an accusation and has evidence to back it up.
You'd think Kit would have given Todd the domestic violence helpline numbers.
Did Todd take the laptop to the repair shop that time? In which case perhaps the video footage is backed up there?
I think your right, but like most Corrie scenes, it was extremely black and white questioning, and not a good indication for someone going through the same thing.
Although, least it wasn’t Swain doing the questioning and Todd would be doing 25 to life.
Thought exactly the same, he was so unsympathic to an obviously distressed Todd. I'm sure Git did get training but it all went over his arrogant head, he's always unpleasant.
When he called him Mr Grimshaw he reminded me of Norman Wisdom.
Brilliant post.
It was ridiculous. Another officer should have interviewed Todd. I also found George and Christina intensely annoying, especially as Christina as recently as two weeks ago had coffee with Todd and was worried about him. Now they both believe he could beat up Theo. I know it's part of the stupid storyline but really, George has known him a long time, he might have noticed a violent streak, if one was there. The way the episode was filmed also made me feel a bit seasick. Great acting from Gareth Pierce.
He was fine, I'm surprised he didn't say 'alright, cocker', to the policeman in the hospital.
While I didn't like the episode, I do agree with that.
Excellent read
I think we already know the answer to that is no. We’ve been asking that same question since the days of Craig questioning the neighbours when working
What a rude thing to say.
George and Christina being at Theo's bedside was also ridiculous and Christina saying to the cop that Theo wasn't fit to be answering questions about the alleged attack so best to leave it atm, the cop meekly scuttled off.
George who has known Todd for years would have been pacing the police station wanting to know what was happening with Todd.
Kit has been in * I shouldn't really be telling you this but* Craig mode when discussing the Costello / Becky situation with Carla .
Also to say, he started off the interview as someone who knew him, and tried to be friendly as a way in, and then ended the interview treating him as a suspect.
A weird imbalance of trying to know him as a win in and then someone he didn't know.
He is gone way beyond that he is desperate to tell her everything, she is now the first port of call for any new info.
"That place in Inkerman Street"?
The laptop and it's repair is presumably going to be significant. Maybe the repairer sees something on it and contacts someone? Probably bloody Kit, who shouldn't be anywhere near the case anyway.
Todd was on TV the other day, saying how wonderful the storyline is, and how brilliant the writers are to have built it up for so long, going back two years to when Todd suddenly became more likeable.
Personally, I think it's dragged on too long, and notwithstanding the excellent and detailed post upthread about how these things develop in real life, I still don't think Todd would have allowed himself to get into this situation, let alone tolerated it for so long.
I do hope, when the episodes move to half an hour next year, things move along a little more succinctly, and aren't spanned out for twice as long, due to the shorter episodes.
I was confused about it going from Todd apparently having a chat to Git to then Git saying that rubbish about ‘based on the evidence I’m now arresting you…’ (along with the compulsory first name surname which really grinds my gears)
Todd would have been arrested from the scene, the attending officers would suspect he was the aggressor as Treeo was spark out, and then Todd would be able to have a solicitor etc. You don’t need evidence to arrest somebody just suspicion. It’s then the detectives job to establish the truth.
Presumably he was released without charge as Treeo said it was all an accident but they didn’t as much as go through a domestic abuse risk assessment with either of them.
But legal nonsense aside I actually thought the episode was quite chilling and pretty accurate about how some people treat their partners
Yes I was wondering if that place in Inkerman St would be open at 8am on. Sunday?
YES!!!!