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  • Martin PhillpMartin Phillp Posts: 37,853
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    While U.DAB shows impressive coverage, it underestimates that London N can still be received in Bromley, Penge etc and unlike London S, it has decent coverage in places such as Brixton, Peckham, Dulwich etc.
  • Bobby_FSRadioBobby_FSRadio Posts: 42
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    While U.DAB shows impressive coverage, it underestimates that London N can still be received in Bromley, Penge etc and unlike London S, it has decent coverage in places such as Brixton, Peckham, Dulwich etc.

    Yeh im not sure if this is indoor or outdoor coverage map, either way it is way bigger then the west & south London muxs.
  • Mark79Mark79 Posts: 203
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    vinnielo wrote: »
    Cardiff is to get another local station joining soon, as 'VIP Lounge' (not 'The VIP Lounge' down the Bay ;) ) will come on from New Year's Day.
    A bit of forum censorship going on? Couldn't bring the thread up to the top to become more visible.
    https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/comment/107281195#Comment_107281195

    Oh, that station that ripped off a few people, recorded ads off LBC and made false claims before running out of cash. That classic line up of Dave, Dave & Andy now I see. Just what we all need.
  • FM_BanditFM_Bandit Posts: 2,993
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    Chelmoguy wrote: »
    North London (U.DAB) has finally updated their website.

    So... DSP licence.... £1,500?!?!

    Then add VAT! £1800 pcm for 32kbps 😬

    Any idea how this compares with the Trial rates?
  • Watts O'PowerWatts O'Power Posts: 2,491
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    edited 09/12/25 - 07:38 #7956
    Chelmoguy wrote: »
    North London (U.DAB) has finally updated their website.

    So... DSP licence.... £1,500?!?!

    C-DSPs in their local mux area get a significant discount on this. This is one mux that is likely to always be oversubscribed and have a waiting list - this pricing looks to be set up with the aim of deterring the usual out-of-town religious megaphones and syndicated dance mix stations that tend to take up capacity on these muxes in urban areas, and instead have a variety of locally based services with different formats and local community involvement.

    They could have set their pricing differently and not had as much differentiation between C-DSP and DSP, but they seem to want to genuinely encourage local operators onto the mux rather than running it for maximum income. Some stations may complain, but these are the going rates. It's cheaper to be on a mux in Blackburn than in London, just like housing and pretty much everything else.
  • Dan_in_the_MidlandsDan_in_the_Midlands Posts: 1,424
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    Jack-UK wrote: »
    Services have just gone live on Rugby+Daventry:
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    Very impressive (particularly if they manage to hold on to these once the free period ends) particularly considering the relatively thin pickings up the road on the Coventry SSDAB mux, which I assumed would've have been the more attractive mux to be on.

  • ChillertonDownChillertonDown Posts: 1,599
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    Jack-UK wrote: »
    Services have just gone live on Rugby+Daventry:
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    Very impressive (particularly if they manage to hold on to these once the free period ends) particularly considering the relatively thin pickings up the road on the Coventry SSDAB mux, which I assumed would've have been the more attractive mux to be on.

    Coventry might have more people, but Rugby mux has huge land area. A city site at 65w compared to a prime hilltop site – the highest around – at 1000w. It's a good 30 minutes coverage on the motorway (I found that out this morning in my van).
  • airwavesairwaves Posts: 2,859
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    Weald Radio is launching on West Kent DAB, and they are running announcements each hour saying that they will appear "at the very end of 2025", so I'm assuming it should be fired up really soon.

    https://www.wealdradio.co.uk/
  • Bobby_FSRadioBobby_FSRadio Posts: 42
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    airwaves wrote: »
    Weald Radio is launching on West Kent DAB, and they are running announcements each hour saying that they will appear "at the very end of 2025", so I'm assuming it should be fired up really soon.

    https://www.wealdradio.co.uk/

    Yeh I believe they are waiting on the nod from Ofcom.

  • RadioHamRadioHam Posts: 524
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    airwaves wrote: »
    Weald Radio is launching on West Kent DAB, and they are running announcements each hour saying that they will appear "at the very end of 2025", so I'm assuming it should be fired up really soon.

    https://www.wealdradio.co.uk/

    Yeh I believe they are waiting on the nod from Ofcom.

    Weald Radio had its DSP licence issued in the summer. Just a case of waiting for the SSDAB licence holders to build everything.

    West Kent Radio also has its licence in place.

    I make it 13 areas in round five, all due before 22 January. Of those, five are in Kent.
  • Colin_LondonColin_London Posts: 13,420
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    edited 09/12/25 - 23:50 #7962
    Comparing the trial map with the new U.DAB map it appears that coverage has been lost south of the A205 South Circular (Bromley, Croydon, Sutton, Kew, Richmond) but has been boosted to the north around New Barnet, Cheshunt, Waltham Abbey, Woodford & Chigwell etc. Maybe as you would expect from a 'North' London mux.

    However it retains several distinctly 'West London' places like Acton, Hammersmith, Fulham and Chiswick, and of course the prosperous Kensington & Chelsea.
  • FM_BanditFM_Bandit Posts: 2,993
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    Yes, it's now too patchy for on-the-go listening in Bromley.
  • Martin PhillpMartin Phillp Posts: 37,853
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    I'd assume before the change to London N, they must have done some tweaks to the Honor Oak tx as I now get full signal strength where as previously it was half the strength. I wonder if the tx is now nulled towards Bromley/Croydon while blasting out towards the North (facing the City of London), west and north east?
  • Jack-UKJack-UK Posts: 1,505
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    Four more awards issued:

    Ely & March - Fen Radio Limited
    Market Harborough - Creativity Media Services Limited
    Wakefield and Castleford - Mid Yorkshire DAB Limited
    Wellingborough - Steers Media Limited
  • IncontinentiaIncontinentia Posts: 235
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    Jack-UK wrote: »
    Four more awards issued:

    Ely & March - Fen Radio Limited
    Market Harborough - Creativity Media Services Limited
    Wakefield and Castleford - Mid Yorkshire DAB Limited
    Wellingborough - Steers Media Limited

    I think that leaves only Newark where we are yet to hear news of an outcome from Round Seven. Round Eight applications (the final planned round) closes at 5pm today.
  • lothian1lothian1 Posts: 120
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    Jack-UK wrote: »
    Four more awards issued:

    Ely & March - Fen Radio Limited
    Market Harborough - Creativity Media Services Limited
    Wakefield and Castleford - Mid Yorkshire DAB Limited
    Wellingborough - Steers Media Limited

    I think that leaves only Newark where we are yet to hear news of an outcome from Round Seven. Round Eight applications (the final planned round) closes at 5pm today.

    Wohnort seems to have results of round 8 now
  • IncontinentiaIncontinentia Posts: 235
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    lothian1 wrote: »
    Jack-UK wrote: »
    Four more awards issued:

    Ely & March - Fen Radio Limited
    Market Harborough - Creativity Media Services Limited
    Wakefield and Castleford - Mid Yorkshire DAB Limited
    Wellingborough - Steers Media Limited

    I think that leaves only Newark where we are yet to hear news of an outcome from Round Seven. Round Eight applications (the final planned round) closes at 5pm today.

    Wohnort seems to have results of round 8 now

    Is it not just marking those where no expressions of interest were reported as being received by Ofcom in 2023?

    Some of those may get applications (and some of those that had interest in 2023 may not now). Although overall you'd expect a lot not to get applications - they've been left to last for a reason, and Ofcom listing 50 of them in a single round (compared with 25-30 in other rounds) very strongly suggests they expect a lot to get no interest.
  • SouthCitySouthCity Posts: 15,216
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    lothian1 wrote: »
    Jack-UK wrote: »
    Four more awards issued:

    Ely & March - Fen Radio Limited
    Market Harborough - Creativity Media Services Limited
    Wakefield and Castleford - Mid Yorkshire DAB Limited
    Wellingborough - Steers Media Limited

    I think that leaves only Newark where we are yet to hear news of an outcome from Round Seven. Round Eight applications (the final planned round) closes at 5pm today.

    Wohnort seems to have results of round 8 now

    Is it not just marking those where no expressions of interest were reported as being received by Ofcom in 2023?

    Some of those may get applications (and some of those that had interest in 2023 may not now). Although overall you'd expect a lot not to get applications - they've been left to last for a reason, and Ofcom listing 50 of them in a single round (compared with 25-30 in other rounds) very strongly suggests they expect a lot to get no interest.

    That's correct, the orange crosses are licences where there were no expressions of interest in the Ofcom survey in 2023.

    Round 8 mops up everything that hasn't been advertised (and a few re-advertisements). It's more of an admin exercise and a lot of the ones with orange crosses are unlikely to generate interest. At least Ofcom can say they offered them though.
  • Jack-UKJack-UK Posts: 1,505
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    The Maxxwave website has been updated. Seems Newark wasn't approved, but they have applied for Lincoln and seems they may merge Newark with that one.

    Seems they also applied for Telford/Shrewsbury, Burton/Lichfield, Derby and Leamington Spa/Stratford-upon-Avon.
  • TomatoShayTomatoShay Posts: 97
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    Looks like Chelmsford SSDAB is almost ready for launch! Their website now states 'We are working on the switch on for December 2025 (Estimated 19th/20th of December) - but with an official launch in January 2026.' They are also offering free carriage until the end of January.
  • RadioHamRadioHam Posts: 524
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    Jack-UK wrote: »
    The Maxxwave website has been updated. Seems Newark wasn't approved, but they have applied for Lincoln and seems they may merge Newark with that one.

    Seems they also applied for Telford/Shrewsbury, Burton/Lichfield, Derby and Leamington Spa/Stratford-upon-Avon.

    Their website also lists Lincoln/Newark, which wasn't advertised in round eight. How does that work?
  • Jack-UKJack-UK Posts: 1,505
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    RadioHam wrote: »
    Jack-UK wrote: »
    The Maxxwave website has been updated. Seems Newark wasn't approved, but they have applied for Lincoln and seems they may merge Newark with that one.

    Seems they also applied for Telford/Shrewsbury, Burton/Lichfield, Derby and Leamington Spa/Stratford-upon-Avon.

    Their website also lists Lincoln/Newark, which wasn't advertised in round eight. How does that work?

    Lincoln was advertised in round 8. Simple really, they get the Lincoln license, then apply for an extension to Newark. The two areas share a strong affinity, even the old Lincs FM used to say 'Across Lincolnshire and Newark'.
  • AnorakCraigAnorakCraig Posts: 412
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    Jack-UK wrote: »
    Services have just gone live on Rugby+Daventry:

    1047 SUBJAM – 32k – DAB+
    All 80s Radio – 32k – DAB+
    Athavan Radio – 32k – DAB+
    BritAsia Radio – 48k – DAB+
    Cataltic Convert – 32k – DAB
    Cosoro Radio – 24k – DAB+
    DarbarSahibRadio – 48k – DAB+
    FreshSoundz – 32k – DAB+
    Ghost Service – 32k – DAB
    Heartsong Live – 96k – DAB+
    Kohinoor Radio – 24k – DAB+
    Love Life – 32k – DAB
    NLive – 24k – DAB+
    NLive Christmas – 24k – DAB+
    Omega Radio – 32k – DAB+
    Pure Dance – 48k – DAB+
    Radio LEAR – 32k – DAB
    Radio Panj – 32k – DAB
    Radio UTSAV – 32k – DAB
    Rugby+Daventry – 24k – DAB+
    Sabras Radio – 24k – DAB+
    Sanskar Radio – 24k – DAB+
    Satsang – 32k – DAB
    Shine 879 – 32k – DAB+
    Soar Sound – 128k – DAB

    I willl have to see if I can receive these services in Northampton because NLive Radio say in various websites that their Christmas Radio service can be heard in Northampton, Daventry and Rugby on DAB, so wouldn't be true if people in Northampton can't listen on DAB to the Christmas station
  • ChelmoguyChelmoguy Posts: 1,384
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    Cheshire Mid are looking at a frequency change and power increase, definitely a good idea considering it barely covers Northwich currently
  • BollardBollard Posts: 4,131
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    Chelmoguy wrote: »
    Cheshire Mid are looking at a frequency change and power increase, definitely a good idea considering it barely covers Northwich currently

    The map of the increased coverage doesn't show any improvement in Northwich, just improvement to the southern fringes and loss of coverage to the north. The reality is that the higher transmitter power will likely make the signal more robust in areas already covered.
    Interesting that '...the full capital cost of the changes will be borne by Wigan & St Helens DAB Ltd' .
    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/resources/documents/consultations/category-2-6-weeks/consultation-small-scale-dab-frequency-change-cheshire-mid/main-documents/consultation-small-scale-dab-frequency-change-cheshire-mid.pdf
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