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What's the latest I should post a letter or card with a first class stamp for it to arrive by 24 December? I'm talking about from and to the UK.
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  • andydenyerandydenyer Posts: 10,501
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    Dead easy to find that one out! Crikey - give us a bit more of a challenge next time! lol :D
  • ffawkesffawkes Posts: 4,874
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    andydenyer wrote: »
    Dead easy to find that one out! Crikey - give us a bit more of a challenge next time! lol :D

    Yeah you're right, I could have just looked it up! I'll come up with something tougher next time. Mind you, I guess I'm a bit iffy about the reliability of post office deliveries despite what they claim. For instance there was a time they'd deliver most days round where I live, but now it seems like they only do it once or twice a week.
  • Ancient IDTVAncient IDTV Posts: 11,579
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    First class stamp, £1.70. :#
  • ffawkesffawkes Posts: 4,874
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    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    It's rocketed way above inflation. Maybe down to fewer letters being posted these days but overhead costs still having to be met?
  • andydenyerandydenyer Posts: 10,501
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    edited 16/12/25 - 13:01 #7
    ffawkes wrote: »
    andydenyer wrote: »
    Dead easy to find that one out! Crikey - give us a bit more of a challenge next time! lol :D

    Yeah you're right, I could have just looked it up! I'll come up with something tougher next time. Mind you, I guess I'm a bit iffy about the reliability of post office deliveries despite what they claim. For instance there was a time they'd deliver most days round where I live, but now it seems like they only do it once or twice a week.

    Ah, yes. Now, if you were asking what the realistic last posting dates should be rather than the official ones, then that's a different matter! :)

    It's not just a modern phenomenon, though. Back in the 70s, some cards we sent early December were received by the addressees the following February! :#

    And I remember when you used to get TWO deliveries a day, not two a week if you're lucky! :D
  • Pansy47Pansy47 Posts: 1,954
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    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    You can buy a packet of Christmas cards for that!
  • Pansy47Pansy47 Posts: 1,954
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    ffawkes wrote: »
    What's the latest I should post a letter or card with a first class stamp for it to arrive by 24 December? I'm talking about from and to the UK.

    Google is your friend- and quicker!
  • andydenyerandydenyer Posts: 10,501
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    Pansy47 wrote: »
    ffawkes wrote: »
    What's the latest I should post a letter or card with a first class stamp for it to arrive by 24 December? I'm talking about from and to the UK.

    Google is your friend- and quicker!

    Certainly quicker than Royal Mail! :D
  • P+3P+3 Posts: 14,716
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    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    Not necessarily...

    if you recall https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2427118/reinventing-stamps-for-the-next-generations-are-you-aware/p1
    IF you have stamps that state 1st class 2nd class on them you will get that back AS 1st and 2nd class

    Plus

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/media-centre/press-releases/citizens-advice-responds-to-royal-mail-stamp-prices-2025/
    Additional information:

    The cost of a 1st class stamp in 2020 was 76p. From April 7th 2025, consumers will have to pay £1.70, which is a 124% increase.

    The cost of a 2nd class stamp in 2020 was 65p. From April 7th 2025, consumers will have to pay 87p, which is a 34% increase.

    The cost of a 1st class stamp from October 7, 2024, was £1.65. This new increase means the cost has risen by 3% since then.

    From April, a book of eight 1st class stamps will cost £13.60. In 2020 it cost £6.08.


    an FYI ;if you buy a book of Ist class stamps ,whatever the' price' of posting a Ist class item increases it will remain the same for you as you have paid for the Ist class service and not the price of the stamp :)
  • andydenyerandydenyer Posts: 10,501
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    edited 16/12/25 - 15:32 #12
    P+3 wrote: »

    Yes, I do recall, and I am still awaiting an apology from you nearly two and a half years later when you were proven to have got something wrong! Or perhaps it got lost in the post! :D
  • P+3P+3 Posts: 14,716
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    andydenyer wrote: »
    P+3 wrote: »

    Yes, I do recall,

    So you have morphed into @Ancient IDTV to whom my post was addressed 🤫
    Folks need to appreciate with paying for postage that if you use a prepaid Ist class stamp you have already paid for the Ist class (or even 2nd class )service,however much (or not!)that was when you bought those stamps.....as the cost of postage increases,it is worth checking to find the stamps you have (and I have a lot that I exchanged when the stamp style changed and the service I had already paid for was retained !!).....

    As to the OP and when to post .....I politely suggest that as Christmas Day is rapidly approaching ,get anything posted asap ....
  • andydenyerandydenyer Posts: 10,501
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    P+3 wrote: »
    andydenyer wrote: »
    P+3 wrote: »

    Yes, I do recall,

    So you have morphed into @Ancient IDTV to whom my post was addressed 🤫
    Folks need to appreciate with paying for postage that if you use a prepaid Ist class stamp you have already paid for the Ist class (or even 2nd class )service,however much (or not!)that was when you bought those stamps.....as the cost of postage increases,it is worth checking to find the stamps you have (and I have a lot that I exchanged when the stamp style changed and the service I had already paid for was retained !!).....

    As to the OP and when to post .....I politely suggest that as Christmas Day is rapidly approaching ,get anything posted asap ....

    Ah, so you can only respond directly to someone who addressed you now, can you? Can't say I've noticed that in the forum guidelines - perhaps you could kindly point me to them! :)

    And where did anyone indicate that they didn't know that you can use a prepaid stamp that you bought before any price increase as it would still be valid regardless of the price paid for it originally? They were just commenting on the current price. How many people stock-pile stamps?

    Anyway, I'm still waiting (and you can respond to me as I've addressed you directly - lol)... :)
  • alter_ego_catalter_ego_cat Posts: 7,712
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    ffawkes wrote: »
    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    It's rocketed way above inflation. Maybe down to fewer letters being posted these days but overhead costs still having to be met?

    A large letter first class stamp is £3.15 - I nearly fell over!
  • ffawkesffawkes Posts: 4,874
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    ffawkes wrote: »
    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    It's rocketed way above inflation. Maybe down to fewer letters being posted these days but overhead costs still having to be met?

    A large letter first class stamp is £3.15 - I nearly fell over!

    By comparison, you can send a package up to 2kg via the Post Office to Australia for £3.40.
  • DanDanDanDan Posts: 325
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    ffawkes wrote: »
    What's the latest I should post a letter or card with a first class stamp for it to arrive by 24 December? I'm talking about from and to the UK.

    Based on my post most likely sometime back in October.
  • neysneys Posts: 6,107
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    edited 16/12/25 - 23:11 #18
    P+3 wrote: »
    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    Not necessarily...

    if you recall https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2427118/reinventing-stamps-for-the-next-generations-are-you-aware/p1
    IF you have stamps that state 1st class 2nd class on them you will get that back AS 1st and 2nd class

    Plus

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/media-centre/press-releases/citizens-advice-responds-to-royal-mail-stamp-prices-2025/
    Additional information:

    The cost of a 1st class stamp in 2020 was 76p. From April 7th 2025, consumers will have to pay £1.70, which is a 124% increase.

    The cost of a 2nd class stamp in 2020 was 65p. From April 7th 2025, consumers will have to pay 87p, which is a 34% increase.

    The cost of a 1st class stamp from October 7, 2024, was £1.65. This new increase means the cost has risen by 3% since then.

    From April, a book of eight 1st class stamps will cost £13.60. In 2020 it cost £6.08.


    an FYI ;if you buy a book of Ist class stamps ,whatever the' price' of posting a Ist class item increases it will remain the same for you as you have paid for the Ist class service and not the price of the stamp :)

    That link is outdated and Royal Mail no longer deliver 2nd class post on a Saturday,
  • Jimmy ConnorsJimmy Connors Posts: 126,047
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    ffawkes wrote: »
    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    It's rocketed way above inflation. Maybe down to fewer letters being posted these days but overhead costs still having to be met?

    A large letter first class stamp is £3.15 - I nearly fell over!

    I never even knew there was a large letter first class category until I read your post.

    Assuming that is an A4 sized envelope. I've been sending them all year with just a normal 1st class stamp and they have all arrived without any payment requested at the other end.
  • alter_ego_catalter_ego_cat Posts: 7,712
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    ffawkes wrote: »
    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    It's rocketed way above inflation. Maybe down to fewer letters being posted these days but overhead costs still having to be met?

    A large letter first class stamp is £3.15 - I nearly fell over!

    I never even knew there was a large letter first class category until I read your post.

    Assuming that is an A4 sized envelope. I've been sending them all year with just a normal 1st class stamp and they have all arrived without any payment requested at the other end.

    Anything bigger than 24 cm x 16 cm is a large letter. A friend of mine had wedding invitations which fitted in normal letter size just, but about half of us had to go and fetch them from a sorting office and pay extra postage. She was mortified.
  • Jimmy ConnorsJimmy Connors Posts: 126,047
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    edited 17/12/25 - 03:18 #21
    ffawkes wrote: »
    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    It's rocketed way above inflation. Maybe down to fewer letters being posted these days but overhead costs still having to be met?

    A large letter first class stamp is £3.15 - I nearly fell over!

    I never even knew there was a large letter first class category until I read your post.

    Assuming that is an A4 sized envelope. I've been sending them all year with just a normal 1st class stamp and they have all arrived without any payment requested at the other end.

    Anything bigger than 24 cm x 16 cm is a large letter. A friend of mine had wedding invitations which fitted in normal letter size just, but about half of us had to go and fetch them from a sorting office and pay extra postage. She was mortified.

    I can imagine.🥺

    A4 size in centimeters is 21 cm x 29.7 cm so I don't know how I've got away with it. All mine are to local council addresses. I can't imagine they've paid the excess postage.

    I'll definitely purchase the large letter stamps from now on. Or stuff things into smaller envelopes.
  • Mark CMark C Posts: 25,626
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    neys wrote: »
    P+3 wrote: »
    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    Not necessarily...

    if you recall https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2427118/reinventing-stamps-for-the-next-generations-are-you-aware/p1
    IF you have stamps that state 1st class 2nd class on them you will get that back AS 1st and 2nd class

    Plus

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/media-centre/press-releases/citizens-advice-responds-to-royal-mail-stamp-prices-2025/
    Additional information:

    The cost of a 1st class stamp in 2020 was 76p. From April 7th 2025, consumers will have to pay £1.70, which is a 124% increase.

    The cost of a 2nd class stamp in 2020 was 65p. From April 7th 2025, consumers will have to pay 87p, which is a 34% increase.

    The cost of a 1st class stamp from October 7, 2024, was £1.65. This new increase means the cost has risen by 3% since then.

    From April, a book of eight 1st class stamps will cost £13.60. In 2020 it cost £6.08.


    an FYI ;if you buy a book of Ist class stamps ,whatever the' price' of posting a Ist class item increases it will remain the same for you as you have paid for the Ist class service and not the price of the stamp :)

    That link is outdated and Royal Mail no longer deliver 2nd class post on a Saturday,

    Except in our area they still do ! However, we often go three or four days in a row without any deliveries. Our postie parks over the road from our house while he does about 50 houses. There are of course days we don't get any mail, but the van is there, but I've never correlated an instance of receiving mail without the van being present
  • malpascmalpasc Posts: 10,053
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    Generally when I post something from where I live (on the Kent coast) to elsewhere in the UK it tends to arrive in a few days, whether sent first or second class. In fact I've sent things at lunchtime first class and it has arrived on the opposite side of the country (where my parents live) the following day. But it can vary hugely it seems. Our local postal deliveries are hit and miss I have to say. Sometimes it appears things take days and days to arrive even if posted relatively locally. For example I had a letter about our council tax back in September, our council is Canterbury City Council, and their offices are in the centre of Canterbury - about 7 miles from us, but looking at the date on the letter it took about 10 days to get to us. We seem to only have postal deliveries maybe twice a week. I know probably most residential households probably don't receive post daily anymore, but I'm talking nobody locally receiving post for days and days.

    Also the Post Office is a separate company to Royal Mail - just a reminder :) You might buy your stamps or take items to the Post Office to send something, but the actual logistics of the delivery is handled by Royal Mail.
  • Mark CMark C Posts: 25,626
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    edited 17/12/25 - 07:51 #24
    I've had some 2nd Class post arrive 15 hours after posting, and some 1st Class post take a few days, so now everything I send is 2nd Class only
  • andydenyerandydenyer Posts: 10,501
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    ffawkes wrote: »
    First class stamp, £1.70. :#

    It's rocketed way above inflation. Maybe down to fewer letters being posted these days but overhead costs still having to be met?

    A large letter first class stamp is £3.15 - I nearly fell over!

    I never even knew there was a large letter first class category until I read your post.

    Assuming that is an A4 sized envelope. I've been sending them all year with just a normal 1st class stamp and they have all arrived without any payment requested at the other end.

    It was introduced in 2006! We were given a cardboard template similar to this:

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    Since then, most greetings cards have carried a logo on the reverse to indicate whether they are letter or large letter size:

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    It's usually the thickness of the card or letter that catches people out.
  • ffawkesffawkes Posts: 4,874
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    edited 17/12/25 - 08:23 #26
    P+3 wrote: »

    As to the OP and when to post .....I politely suggest that as Christmas Day is rapidly approaching ,get anything posted asap ....

    The point with this one is it's a birthday card for the 24th - you know how it is, you'd like a birthday card to turn up on the day or the day before, you don't want it to get there days in advance. There was a time you'd know if you posted on Wednesday it'd get there Friday, but now it's more like Russian Roulette, despite Royal Mail being legally obliged to deliver first-class mail within one working day.
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