What would it take for ITV to un-“rest” DOI?

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As someone helpful pointed out on another thread ITV have not cancelled DOI just ‘rested’ it. If they had cancelled it another broadcaster could air it and thus ITV loose the rights. So if it did return it would have to be ITV’s decision. I feel the only reasons they would resurrect it would be 1, there’s a new spike in popularity of ice skating, 2, cheap alternative they air in the winter Sunday night slot achieve no where near DOI viewership, 3 Strictly continues to rise in popularity (even more then it is now) and ITV feel the only way to get some of that audience is air the most identical show to Strictly they can. Anyone else have any thoughts on what would have to change for ITV to resurrect the show?
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  • Nova8221Nova8221 Posts: 3,869
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    DOI was the perfect alternative from Strictly. The problem is that from they brought the show back it has felt like a vanilla version of a once great show.

    The opening music was scrapped, everything felt rushed, the Ice Panel was bad, Torville & Dean weren't good judges, Pros were changed too often & the result show was crammed into the main show.

    It wasn't the Dancing on Ice we knew and loved.
  • louie_hardinglouie_harding Posts: 2,242
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    Good points. In the late 2000s it had a sense of Strictly for a younger audience. DOI first run seemed to have a higher calibre of celebrity too.
  • louie_hardinglouie_harding Posts: 2,242
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    edited 15/04/25 - 22:12 #4
    Strictly is the most popular talent / entertainment show currently. With ITV having a show that’s essentially its equivalent on ice it would have sense to ‘steal’ all the great things about Strictly but still maintain a sense of its own identity, instead it only stole the blandest parts of Strictly.
  • HMOHMO Posts: 45,452
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    Nova8221 wrote: »
    the result show was crammed into the main show.
    Why was this a bad thing?

    The viewing figures show very clearly that usually a good million or two did not return for the separate result show. In the earlier series, it was even more than that (3 million).
  • Nova8221Nova8221 Posts: 3,869
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    HMO wrote: »
    Nova8221 wrote: »
    the result show was crammed into the main show.
    Why was this a bad thing?

    The viewing figures show very clearly that usually a good million or two did not return for the separate result show. In the earlier series, it was even more than that (3 million).

    Because it didn't allow the show to breath. When a contestant got eliminated their farewell interview and speech felt rushed.

    I preferred the days when you had the Live Show, then Wild at Heart and after that the Result Show. I was a kid at the time and I remember being nervous and excited during the 60 minute wait and then when the Result Show aired it felt like a huge deal.
  • louie_hardinglouie_harding Posts: 2,242
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    What do you think would need to happen for ITV to want to bring it back?
  • HMOHMO Posts: 45,452
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    Nova8221 wrote: »
    HMO wrote: »
    Nova8221 wrote: »
    the result show was crammed into the main show.
    Why was this a bad thing?

    The viewing figures show very clearly that usually a good million or two did not return for the separate result show. In the earlier series, it was even more than that (3 million).

    Because it didn't allow the show to breath. When a contestant got eliminated their farewell interview and speech felt rushed.

    I preferred the days when you had the Live Show, then Wild at Heart and after that the Result Show. I was a kid at the time and I remember being nervous and excited during the 60 minute wait and then when the Result Show aired it felt like a huge deal.
    But the viewing figures show very clearly that a few million less watched the result than the main show. You can see why they'd want to reduce that particular decline.
  • wazzyboywazzyboy Posts: 14,491
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    Now we have new world ice dance bronze medallists maybe there'll be a window in a few years if they turn pro 😁
  • NYGirlNYGirl Posts: 7,996
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    wazzyboy wrote: »
    Now we have new world ice dance bronze medallists maybe there'll be a window in a few years if they turn pro 😁

    unless they decide to keep going for the 2030 Olympics (and they very well might, there are going to be a slew of ice dance retirements after Milan which would only help their chances for Olympic medals)
  • Glenn AGlenn A Posts: 26,203
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    It's doubtful DOI will come back as it's a very expensive show to make, the quality of celebs had really tailed off during the last few series, and the audience figures were too low. Also it skewed old and wasn't attractive to younger and ABC1 demos that commercial stations want.
  • louie_hardinglouie_harding Posts: 2,242
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    Glenn A wrote: »
    It's doubtful DOI will come back as it's a very expensive show to make, the quality of celebs had really tailed off during the last few series, and the audience figures were too low. Also it skewed old and wasn't attractive to younger and ABC1 demos that commercial stations want.

    Interesting as I read generation x are more likely to spend money. So I’d be intrigued to hear why commercial stations want a younger demo.
  • louie_hardinglouie_harding Posts: 2,242
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    edited 21/08/25 - 10:47 #13
    I wonder if a reason they’d be hesitant about ever bringing the show back is Torvill and Dean retiring from performing? There’s not really been another British ice skating duo as well known in popular culture as Torvill and Dean, so having other Olympic skaters having a dedicated showcase like they did is unlikely to give the show the wow factor (even if technically the showcase is stunning to watch). Torvill and Dean could still judge, but again I think viewers want to see them perform rather than just seeing them as talking heads. I think you’d need another ice dance duo to achieve their level of fame, plus A-B celebs taking part to get viewers watching.
  • DorisKarloffDorisKarloff Posts: 7,124
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    Contestants as entertaining as Todd Carty. It was pointless afterwards.
  • d0lphind0lphin Posts: 26,845
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    Contestants as entertaining as Todd Carty. It was pointless afterwards.

    I've always thought that incident where he skated off the rink was a set up and not very funny
  • Samantha_IsaacsSamantha_Isaacs Posts: 280,622
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    What do you think would need to happen for ITV to want to bring it back?

    Them running out of ideas
  • Glenn AGlenn A Posts: 26,203
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    What do you think would need to happen for ITV to want to bring it back?

    Them running out of ideas

    Wearing out their endless repeats of The Chase, Tipping Point and Celebrity Catchphrase.
  • louie_hardinglouie_harding Posts: 2,242
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    What do you think would need to happen for ITV to want to bring it back?

    Them running out of ideas

    Well I guess that did happen in 2018. Maybe lightning might strike twice
  • Glenn AGlenn A Posts: 26,203
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    What do you think would need to happen for ITV to want to bring it back?

    Them running out of ideas

    Well I guess that did happen in 2018. Maybe lightning might strike twice

    Not sure, DOI was a very expensive show, as ITV had to hire an ice rink, pay a team of judges, the two presenters and the celebs to take part, and it wasn't rating well or attracting many younger viewers. I can't see it coming back and to be fair, it had been cancelled previously due to falling ratings, was revived and suffered the same fate.
  • wazzyboywazzyboy Posts: 14,491
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    They could have fewer contestants, a shorter season. I'd like the original Strictly on Ice format, run it out of an actual permanent rink rather than have one set up each time. The only downside would be the timing, as rinks often need to stage skating comps and/or hockey games in January-March.

    I don't see T&D only judging being that big a deal, we all know they're physically unable to perform as they used to. G8ve the pros more performance slots again as pairs, solo or in small groups. A biggervrink would give them space to perform properly.

    I'd like to see it more like a proper skating comp. Go back to having technical elements they must perform.
    Instead of themes like movies or whatever, have Waltz Week or Tango Week or something, so.they are allowed to pickthe music but have a set rhythm like they used to do in ice dance comps.

  • louie_hardinglouie_harding Posts: 2,242
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    wazzyboy wrote: »
    They could have fewer contestants, a shorter season. I'd like the original Strictly on Ice format, run it out of an actual permanent rink rather than have one set up each time. The only downside would be the timing, as rinks often need to stage skating comps and/or hockey games in January-March.

    I don't see T&D only judging being that big a deal, we all know they're physically unable to perform as they used to. G8ve the pros more performance slots again as pairs, solo or in small groups. A biggervrink would give them space to perform properly.

    I'd like to see it more like a proper skating comp. Go back to having technical elements they must perform.
    Instead of themes like movies or whatever, have Waltz Week or Tango Week or something, so.they are allowed to pickthe music but have a set rhythm like they used to do in ice dance comps.

    I like your suggestions to make it more like an ice dance competition. Unfortunately TV shows aren’t about accuracy they’re about getting as many viewers as possible. Other than the niche audiences of the skating world I can’t see many viewers being hooked by a ‘Waltz week.’ Movie week is more generic and thus meaning more variety in what the couples do.
  • louie_hardinglouie_harding Posts: 2,242
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    I’d be intrigued to know if they replace DOI with a new entertainment show or just stick repeats of something like Catchphrase. Somehow I can’t see Sunday nights on ITV being as glitzy and fun as they once were.
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    edited 14/09/25 - 23:10 #23
    wazzyboy wrote: »
    They could have fewer contestants, a shorter season. I'd like the original Strictly on Ice format, run it out of an actual permanent rink rather than have one set up each time. The only downside would be the timing, as rinks often need to stage skating comps and/or hockey games in January-March.

    I don't see T&D only judging being that big a deal, we all know they're physically unable to perform as they used to. G8ve the pros more performance slots again as pairs, solo or in small groups. A biggervrink would give them space to perform properly.

    I'd like to see it more like a proper skating comp. Go back to having technical elements they must perform.
    Instead of themes like movies or whatever, have Waltz Week or Tango Week or something, so.they are allowed to pickthe music but have a set rhythm like they used to do in ice dance comps.

    As most ice skaters will tell you ice time is precious and hard to book. So I’m not sure locals of any place would be happy for their rink to be used up for DOI for 2 months plus of the year. Plus it would cost ITV a fortune. I also question whether most permanent rinks would deem DOI as worthy enough or profitable enough for the show to have their live shows at their rink. They could probably make a heck of a lot more by charging for public skating session / skating lessons / practice lessons etc in the time they’d have to block out for DOI.
  • Nova8221Nova8221 Posts: 3,869
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    I wish it would've returned next year for a farewell series.
  • wazzyboywazzyboy Posts: 14,491
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    wazzyboy wrote: »
    They could have fewer contestants, a shorter season. I'd like the original Strictly on Ice format, run it out of an actual permanent rink rather than have one set up each time. The only downside would be the timing, as rinks often need to stage skating comps and/or hockey games in January-March.

    I don't see T&D only judging being that big a deal, we all know they're physically unable to perform as they used to. G8ve the pros more performance slots again as pairs, solo or in small groups. A biggervrink would give them space to perform properly.

    I'd like to see it more like a proper skating comp. Go back to having technical elements they must perform.
    Instead of themes like movies or whatever, have Waltz Week or Tango Week or something, so.they are allowed to pickthe music but have a set rhythm like they used to do in ice dance comps.

    As most ice skaters will tell you ice time is precious and hard to book. So I’m not sure locals of any place would be happy for their rink to be used up for DOI for 2 months plus of the year. Plus it would cost ITV a fortune. I also question whether most permanent rinks would deem DOI as worthy enough or profitable enough for the show to have their live shows at their rink. They could probably make a heck of a lot more by charging for public skating session / skating lessons / practice lessons etc in the time they’d have to block out for DOI.

    Like I said, timing and as you say feasibility.
  • wazzyboywazzyboy Posts: 14,491
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    wazzyboy wrote: »
    They could have fewer contestants, a shorter season. I'd like the original Strictly on Ice format, run it out of an actual permanent rink rather than have one set up each time. The only downside would be the timing, as rinks often need to stage skating comps and/or hockey games in January-March.

    I don't see T&D only judging being that big a deal, we all know they're physically unable to perform as they used to. G8ve the pros more performance slots again as pairs, solo or in small groups. A biggervrink would give them space to perform properly.

    I'd like to see it more like a proper skating comp. Go back to having technical elements they must perform.
    Instead of themes like movies or whatever, have Waltz Week or Tango Week or something, so.they are allowed to pickthe music but have a set rhythm like they used to do in ice dance comps.

    I like your suggestions to make it more like an ice dance competition. Unfortunately TV shows aren’t about accuracy they’re about getting as many viewers as possible. Other than the niche audiences of the skating world I can’t see many viewers being hooked by a ‘Waltz week.’ Movie week is more generic and thus meaning more variety in what the couples do.

    I suspect you are right.
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