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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was keep. Izno (talk) 23:26, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused route template. Gonnym (talk) 13:39, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Was used for the page Brighton & Hove Regency Route but that was redirected to Brighton & Hove (Bus Company)#The Regency Route as i nominated it for deletion. Now that the template has been added to the appropriate section of Brighton & Hove (Bus Company) i think we should Keep it. DAmik001 (talk) 17:57, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Added to suitable article. Useddenim (talk) 18:09, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 17:30, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Izno can be kept. I have no problem in withdrawing nomination for route templates that have have been added to articles during the discussion. Gonnym (talk) 18:52, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Propose merging Template:NASCAR on Speed with Template:NASCAR on Fox.
I propose Template:NASCAR on Speed is merged into Template:NASCAR on Fox, for the same reasons I'm proposing their respective articles to be merged in the same fashion. The two programs might as well be one and the same, given the common ownership and similarities in coverage they both had. JHD0919 (talk) 18:53, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 17:25, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now - Merge IFF the articles merge. As long as the articles are separate, it makes sense to have separate templates. Suggest closing with no prejudice on renominating and merging if the articles are indeed merged. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:13, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 19:57, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hosts fail WP:PERFNAV --woodensuperman 16:05, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:00, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As a list of newsreaders on a TV network this is a clear case of WP:PERFNAV --woodensuperman 15:25, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:01, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Was removed in one of the edits at Royal Navy rating rank insignia. Gonnym (talk) 13:24, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. I did stumble across this the other day and wondered what it was for. Not to mention that NATO did not exist before 1949. Dgp4004 (talk) 18:36, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:02, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sports table. Gonnym (talk) 13:22, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:02, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused as 2025–26 Women's Big Bash League season#Points table uses a different table. Gonnym (talk) 13:13, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:03, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused after this edit. Gonnym (talk) 13:12, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:03, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused after being subst here. Gonnym (talk) 13:09, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:04, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused after being subst here. Gonnym (talk) 13:09, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:04, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused standings table template. Gonnym (talk) 13:08, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:05, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused standings table template. Gonnym (talk) 13:08, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused standings table template. Gonnym (talk) 13:08, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as now used. @Gonnym: it looks like the wrong template was being used on the relevant article. This edit fixed it so it is now used... Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 07:37, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know. I'm fine with keeping. Gonnym (talk) 10:59, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonnym: safe for me to close this as "withdrawn" (or you can do it of course)? I don't like doing that without explicit "permission" from the original poster...
@WikiCleanerMan and JHD0919: for transparency, please see above comment about this template now being correctly used. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:22, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Single-use. Subst and delete. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:22, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Subst and delete per WCM. JHD0919 (talk) 16:24, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:06, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused after being subst here. Gonnym (talk) 13:06, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Another unused error template. Just use parser functions. No need for this and just because you make something substitutable doesn't mean it should be substituted. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 08:02, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete useless template. Vestrian24Bio 11:58, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 01:24, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, or delete and create a tracking category for the {{Error}} template. Just a quick reply on the technical side. Unused: yes for now (the template is two months old and pairs with {{Error if empty}} – which, by the way, had almost no transclusions as well two months after its creation). Replaceable via parser functions: impossible. What it does cannot be done differently. This consists in avoiding false positive transclusions of {{Error}} when template parameters are not parsed lazily. There is a better solution that allows to delete this template: that of monitoring the {{Error}} template using tracking categories. I am totally happy with that as well (it would actually be a step forward). --Grufo (talk) 14:30, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The creator of this template has created multiple templates that were mostly unused or barely used. This isn't different. They should first identify places where a code is missing then create it (or better yet, request others to do so). This was stated, but it seems this needs to be said over and over, en.wiki is not a code repository. The templates and modules here should be created when they are needed. Side note, {{Error if empty}} is used in only 4 pages. Those should also be looked at later to see if indeed that template is needed there. Gonnym (talk) 17:16, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you will try your hand at making {{Error if empty}} unnecessary, so we can delete both templates, because enwiki is the only project where such templates are needed. --Grufo (talk) 17:52, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]