Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Riedlingen derailment

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:39, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Riedlingen derailment

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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events (including most ...accidents...), whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 15:45, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Transportation, and Germany. XYZ1233212 (talk) 15:45, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Only news coverage, not sustained secondary analysis. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 02:22, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
well there is at least one recent article with some secondary analysis Laura240406 (talk) 07:38, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This accident was a big deal and it went all the way to the top of German politics. The extensive German Wikipedia article, Eisenbahnunfall von Riedlingen cites 23 references. This article already had an {{Expand German}} tag on it before it was nominated for deletion. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 21:00, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note that our deletion policy requires considering alternatives to deletion (WP:ATD). One is merging and redirecting; two possible targets are Ulm–Sigmaringen railway or Riedlingen. Another option is to draftify the article to see what further coverage comes up. However, from looking at the German article, we should expand our article, not remove it. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 21:14, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~leaning~~ keep The German article is much longer, and while I haven't had the time to look through it the accident does seem to have had significant impact. Mangoe (talk) 21:11, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Given the improvements I'm upping my confidence here. Mangoe (talk) 14:33, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 18:27, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've greatly expanded the article by translating from the German one, and I intend to continue working on it. The incident has lasting coverage, such as this from yesterday and this from 10 August. Such train derailments are relatively rare in Germany, so I expect this to get more media coverage as the investigation into the deaths continues. Sincerely, Grumpylawnchair (talk) 03:56, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:HEYMANN award to Grumpylawnchair -- thank you! --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 14:12, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as this reminds me of the Stonehaven derailment in the UK in 2020, also killing three people on board. At the time, it was the first fatal train crash in the UK for several years. The latest one in the UK (with a Wikipedia article) was the 2024 Talerddig collision. It took a while for the RAIB to investigate the Stonehaven accident with the report concluding in March 2022. Idk what the German equvilant of the RAIB is, but there's no way an accident could be investigated within a month. Train accidents are rare, let alone fatal ones. Most fatal railway accidents (not involving level crossings) have a Wikipedia article, at least in the developed English-speaking countries. JuniperChill (talk) 11:11, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The German equivalent of the RAIB is the BEU. Mjroots (talk) 16:44, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - seems to be an accident that is comparable with Stonehaven. As said above, there are plenty of sources to expand the article with. Mjroots (talk) 16:47, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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