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Why does there have to be a wikipedia article for a person when there is clearly a credible link with reference to the person's credentials as cited. Is that not what the citing function is for? There is in fact an article on Wikipedia for Mickey Gerber but it is in french and Wikipedia doesn't allow it to be linked anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2C0F:F4C0:A14B:DDF0:F4E6:5CF5:795B:129B (talk) 23:21, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As several notes say, don't post on this page unless my main page is protected, which it is not.
New posts go at the bottom of the page, not the top. I have moved iit.
Please sign your talk page posts.
As for your edits, no, it is not sufficient simply to show that an alumnus is a high level athlete to show notability. We do not presume notability simply because someone is a professional athlete. See WP:WTAF. And please stop claiming people are alumni without any evidence. If their article does not contain a reliable source showing their attendance then you must add a reliable source to the school article. See WP:VMeters (talk) 00:07, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I hear that New Flyer D40LF's are actual ETS Buses. They mistook themselves by putting a D40LFR image on the "Riding ETS" page, as that image is supposed to be a New Flyer D40LF. I will check on the ETS Website. @MetersETSTransitFan1996 (talk) 21:28, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Meters,
I noticed you removed the poem "Oh No! It's Jamie!" at the user's talk page? It was a poem of appreciation. So what should I do if I want to send that poem to them? 103.150.52.126 (talk) 06:55, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have brought my points to the article's talk page regarding our discussion on the splitting of the title to Magnus and Nepo. We can discuss it further there.
I also have a question, I see you are quite experienced. I was trying to find one of the first pages I edited, (The Emotron's Teenage Jesus). I have searched for it, yet I cannot find any discussion as to why the page was deleted, the page itself or any information regarding it. I only have the Playlist of the Album which was compiled by me (Link to album). I would like to know why this page was deleted, and where I can find any information on it. Bloodyfist (talk) 19:57, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no need to tell me this here. I'm the one who asked you to discuss it on the article's talk page. You don't have to tell me that you are doing so here, and on your page, and attempt to ping me to the article's talk page too.
Hey, I just wanted you to check and see if the Christian Brothers High School (Memphis, Tennessee) page is looking better with the resources I fixed. I'm still iffy about the one I used for the Saint Benedict at Auburndale rivalry. Dizzlessportsmatrix (talk) 00:17, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new threads at the bottom of talk pages (I've moved it), use headers (I've added one), and use diffs or links (I've added a link as the header). Meters (talk) 07:05, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The St. Benedict at Auburndale/Christian Brothers ref https://amyosport.com/rivalry.php?rival=83084&sportID=5#google_vignette is even weaker. There is no mention of any significant rivalry. It's nothing but a database of results in one sport for two teams that play each other two three times a year. For all I can tell the website uses the saem "rivalry" terminology for the results between every two teams. Meters (talk) 07:23, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Meters! I hope you are doing well. Sorry to go over this again. But it appears when I made unsourced claims about the Dallas Texans (NFL) article, that while I did make an unsourced claim, but that wasn't just the only issue, another issue (That I realised) that is I published original research, and I believed my research (That they were the last big 4 team to fold without another team continuing their legacy/records) was true, it appears that I conned myself🤦. If we make original research claims, but no source makes the claim, it probably isn't true, or isn't notable. Thank you. Hope you have a great day Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:26, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I know you've given me links to look at in the past but can u give me something to read so I can understand the rules better? I don't want to continue making your job frustrating and I don't want you to hate me. It's time for me to stop throwing pity parties and hold myself accountable because I understand that I'm on some really thin ice here. Dizzlessportsmatrix (talk) 23:54, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For the second time, please add new threads at the bottom of talk pages (I've moved it), use headers (I've added one), and use diffs or links (I've added a link as the header).
Why don't you undelete the material from you talk page and start with those links. I'm not interested in repeating myself. Meters (talk) 00:00, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How would I be able to take down a wikipedia page that was made w/out consent?
Why would you think that Wikipedia needs anyone's consent for there to be an article? There are ways to get articles deleted for various reasons, but consent is not a reason. Exceptions are sometimes made for articles about living people who are only marginally notable and request that their article be deleted. Meters (talk) 05:00, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just FYI the article in question is slated for deletion review down the road as one of User:Lugnuts non notable creations. It's way down the list but eventually. Moxy🍁05:16, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'm not surprised. A PanAmerican medal and Olympic participation in a team rowing event didn't seem to cut it. Meters (talk) 05:23, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. It's obviously never going to be accepted, and it only exists as a WP:POINTY attempt at harassment. If the user keeps this up they will be at ANI. Meters (talk) 20:08, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what that means, but if you harass me again by creating another draft in my name I will report you to WP:ANI and request that you be blocked. Meters (talk) 05:34, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unc calm down it means that you guys are caring too much about a DRAFT that hasn't even been submitted for review yet MrVC25 (talk) 05:46, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
MrVC25 You care about harassing other users that disagree with the edits you have made. Please stop harassing other editors like Meters. Remind yourself that Wikipedia editing is not a game but about making articles right, not the way you think they should be. If you are writing about your family without a reliable source, then you are publishing original research which is against Wikipedia's policies. Servite et contribuere (talk) 05:59, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Meters. Would you mind taking a look at Cairo High School? I came across it via recent questions about some files being used in it asked at WP:MCQ. The article appears to have recently been expanded quite a bit by Gumby-andrit in good faith, but it also has needed to be cleaned twice for copyvios. The formating of the some of the sections is something that should be routine enough to fix, but some of the content (even if not a copyvio) might need some rewriting. FWIW, I'm asking you since, if I remember correctly, you have lots of experience with high school articles and are also pretty good at explaining to others why their edits might not be OK without hitting them with a ton of bricks from the very get go. If it's better to ask about this at WT:SCHOOLS instead, please let me know. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:19, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Marchjuly: I'm heading out, but I'll take a detailed look later today. There's definitely some weird html-style formatting that needs to be cleaned up, even if the content turns out to be fine. A bit odd to see a user return after years of inactivity. Meters (talk) 23:02, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i see you reverting this guys edits is there any way we can get in contact with someone who can block them because it is constant and im sure you're tired of reverting them Bastubunny (talk) 04:39, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
AIV is not picking up so I made a short request at ANI. We could also contact a currently active admin (see [1] ). I don't think juvenile stupidity such as this would qualify for an email to the emergency email. Meters (talk) 04:55, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Since you seem to be closely monitoring the Sears page, can you take a look at this sentence and figure out a better way to say it, given that Sears in Mexico and Central America are totally different company(s?) from Sears in the US? (But Puerto Rico *is* part of the US Sears)
Yeah, that's a problem. We should not say that "Sears operates" in Mexico, Guatemala, or El Salvador if they are now seperate companies. How about something like "Former Sears divisions are still operating in Mexico, Guatemala, and El Salvador; however, these are no longer part of Sears."? We would need sourcing.
Yes, Sears in Puerto Rico is still part of US Sears. Sears in Mexico is not (and is thriving under separate ownership). I know little about the Central American stores. Ron Newman (talk) 16:22, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For reverting the vandalism on my talk page while I was sleeping. It's always nice to wake up to see fellow editors sticking up for me, especially since that sort of homophobic vandalism is deeply offensive to me on a personal basis. Cheers! JeffSpaceman (talk) 11:49, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@JeffSpaceman: You are welcome. None of us should have to put up with that sort of trolling abuse. Since whoever it is has used multiple IPs over several days you could ask for your talk page to be protected again at WP:RPP. Meters (talk) 03:33, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the advice. I think I will let it go for now, since the IP user did not edit my talk page at all yesterday, which could be a sign that the harassment is subsiding. If it resumes any time soon, though, I will likely consider requesting protection. JeffSpaceman (talk) 11:21, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= parameter to no to reactivate your request.
Since references on the Grey High School website have been ignored and information on the page removed as a result citing "no evidence of attendance", could the references of notable alumni also be reviewed in the same manner for articles "Grey College, Bloemfontein", "Paul Roos Gymnasium", "Paarl Gimnasium", "Paarl Boys' High School", "Selborne College", "St. Andrew's College, Grahamstown", "Wynberg Boys' High School", "Rondebosch Boys' High School", "South African College Schools", "Diocesan College", "King Edward VII School, Johannesburg", "St Stithians College" and "Parktown Boys' High School" 2C0F:F4C0:A14C:EC10:3885:4EF6:FB9D:27BE (talk) 21:42, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide diffs to the edits in question.
Please provide links to the articles in question.
Please do not misuse edit request templates. You are saying that my talk page is protected, and asking that it be edited. I doubt that any of the articles are protected.
No, I'm not going to review all of the alumni entries on 13 different articles for you. If you think there are problems with any of the entries then remove them yourself.
If you complaining about my recent removals from Grey High School[2][3] then you are out of luck. None of the three alumni had an article to show their notability, and only one had a source which confirmed their attendance. Meters (talk) 07:42, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies if I'm doing this wrong. On the Milton_High_School_(Georgia) page, you removed an entry for an alumni Nadine Jolie Courtney. I added it back because it's cited in her book All-American Muslim Girl published by Macmillan in 2019. I added the citation. Thanks. 172.91.132.21 (talk) 01:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Meters. I saw that you reverted some vandalism on the talk page of 149.108.201.116... which they reposted, so I reverted it again. This looks like the infamous "Megafauna Man" vandal - have you seen them before? I've reverted a few IP talk pages with the same junk in recent months. --Drm310🍁 (talk) 16:10, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Apokryltaros: Was there ever discussion about opening a sockpuppet or LTA case, or are these incidents just spread too thinly over time? It looks at one point, someone created a filter to stop the category abuse. --Drm310🍁 (talk) 22:15, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think there has been talk about a LTA case, but I mostly just revert everything, and then either report them at the Administrator intervention against vandalism noticeboard or to an admin while mentioning that the Megafauna Man Vandal is back. No other method is effective short of banning the 139 to 149 series of IPs forever, given as how the vandal always returns either when a block expires or when it hops to another IP in those series. Mr Fink (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For taking care of that homophobic vandalism on my user talk page. I'm glad to see other users, whether LGBTQ, ally, or just against vandalism and personal attacks, not stand for this kind of treatment of editors. Thank you so much. JeffSpaceman (talk) 22:16, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are very welcome. The account in question was indeffed, talkpage access was removed, and the edit was rev-deled within 10 minutes. Meters (talk) 02:43, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
explained in detail, asked the OP to drop this twice, and they are still at it and still apparently see links where none exist
Hi Meters,
I would like to propose that the article for 777 is put on the "see Also" section of the page for numbers in the 700's; yes 777 is discussed in the 700 page but it is a very cursory overlook of the number. It only states "The numbers 3 and 7 are considered both "perfect numbers" under Hebrew tradition.", and some basic mathematical information about it, whereas the page for 777 itself has a ton of cultural and sociological information about the number. I hope we can have a productive conversation about this. Polkol777 (talk) 18:53, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, it should not be linked in the "See also" section. If you want to link it then add the link where we mention the number. Meters (talk) 20:26, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please elaborate on why it is not appropriate for that section. 777 is already linked in the part of the page with 777 but having it in two places means people who are curious are more likely to find it. Polkol777 (talk) 20:34, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, it should not also be linked in both places. As MOS:NOTSEEAGAIN says: As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body.
And no, 777 is not "already linked in the part of the page with 777". We discuss it, we give references, but we do not link. Again, If you want to link it then add the link where we mention the number.Meters (talk) 20:46, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're confusing me here. At first you say it shouldn't be linked there and then say the reason is that it already appears in the text, which is fair enough, despite my disagreement. But then you say that it isn't even linked at all in the body, which would invalidate your point about how it should not be in two separate places in the article, but is also untrue! To quote the article, in the section directly after 776: "Main article: 777 (number)
Read what I just wrote: I've added the link to 700 (number) for you. The link was not in the article where we discuss the number when we started this discussion. Now it is. I added if for you because you seemed unable to understand the difference between mentioning the number and linking to it. Now please drop this. Meters (talk) 21:04, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The link to 777 was actually in the article before this chat, and at the start of this chat, here is a link to an older version of the page from February with it https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=700_(number)&oldid=1277239489. Is the difference between mentioning the number and linking to it the difference of if it is a "Main article: 777 (number)" vs just linking it like this: "777 = 3 x 7 x 23"? My only other question now is: if 777 wasnt linked at all in the article, why wouldnt it belong in the see also (as in the wikipedia rule as to why)? Polkol777 (talk) 23:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, there was no link to 777 (number) (or to the piped version 777) in the article when we started this discussion, and there was no link in your linked version of the article from February either. If there were they would show up as blue hypertext links. For the second time, please drop this. I've wasted more than enough time having you try to convince me I'm wrong. See MOS:LINKSTYLE for what regular and piped links look like in wikitext; either [[777 (number)]] or [[777 (number)|777]] in this case. These would display as the blue, clickable hypertext links 777 (number) or 777 respectively.
As for your second question, we don't use see alsos for something we already discuss in the article. If it's discussed in the article and we want to link it then, for the third time, If you want to link it then add the link where we mention the number.Meters (talk) 02:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There was, but lets just agree to disagree then. I actually tracked down the version of this page which added the 777 link! https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=700_(number)&oldid=612192927. The editor even helpfully tagged their edit that added the link as: "wikilinks to integer pages". However the link on the number 777 itself was later removed and replaced with a "Main page" notice just above it.
People with the same names have a 'See also' link, it's fairly common. The geography does not matter, and never has done. All of my edits have been largely valid, but your edits have not been? Unless I am wrong? 46.18.177.138 (talk) 08:28, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are wrong. See also sections usually include links to other articles that include information that might be included in if the article were to be fully expanded. There is no reason that we would ever include information about Southfield School in England in the article about Kettering High School in Michigan, so there is no need to have it linked in the "See also" section. If there are articles about people that have a see also simply because of a name coincidence, then those should be removed too. Meters (talk) 20:08, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a specific Wikipedia policy expressly prohibiting the listing of advertising credits in an actor's filmography? I looked and did not find one, but if there is one, why have mentions of her advertising credits been retained for many years under "Modelling" at the bottom of "Career?" ~ Cryogenator (talk) 06:59, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It appears that you added this in 2024, and it has been removed multiple times, by multiple editors. Take it to the talk page and see if there is consensus to keep this. Meters (talk) 07:15, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Again, is there a specific Wikipedia policy expressly prohibiting the listing of advertising credits in an actor's filmography? I looked and did not find one, but if there is one, why have mentions of her advertising credits been retained for many years under "Modelling" at the bottom of "Career?" I did not write that section and it goes back many years. It includes some of the same advertising work I included but has not been removed, including by the editors who removed the section I added. I note that both editors who removed that section have an ideological opposition to advertising in general indicated on their pages, and one of them seems to support communism, so I think these are biased edits.
I'll request a consensus on the talk page, but is consensus required to retain something that isn't in violation of Wikipedia policy?
For now, I will readd the section on availability I created and which was removed without any explanation other than a uselessly vague rhetorical exclamation of "What on Earth???" from the same editor who removed my section on her advertising credits. ~ Cryogenator (talk) 07:44, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have managed to create a spreadsheet that will automatically format all the data from the GHSA of high school championships (Working on getting other athletic associations) into a wiki table. I wish to use something similar to the table found on the Midtown High School and Saint Pius X CHS in GA. What is the best way to format this table and add a note for years in which it was tied. Is it also important to add the classification at which these titles were earned (2A, 3A)? While this is possible it would be very difficult to add. BabaYagaUSA (talk) 18:04, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I actually don't like tables such as the one in Midtown High School (Atlanta). There's far too much blank space and too many pointless entries. There are 23 sports in that table, and only two of them actually mention titles. A bulleted list of sports competed in is much cleaner, and easier for editors to update. Include the titles in the same list if there are just a few, or in a seperate list of titles if there are lots, and be done with it.
I have no idea which article you mean by Saint Pius X CHS. I looked at several possible articles and none of them have tables of athletic titles. Meters (talk) 03:42, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've nuked that table from Midtown High School (Atlanta). All the information was redundant. I've also removed the lower level finishes, and the improperly claimed girls' title (the GHSA does not list this school as having won the girls' track team title in 1988). Meters (talk) 04:00, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is the one I was talking about. St. Pius X They won in 1988 under their former name Grady. I would like to make them have table because it is much more clean. Would it make more sense to only have sports in which the school has achieved a state championship? Should I also ignore classification? Should I also include the titles from schools that merged into the school to form the other or only ones who has changed names? BabaYagaUSA (talk) 11:58, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've already given you my opinion on such tables. Bulleted lists are simpler to update and less cluttered with pointless lines and blank spaces. Please don't make tables.
We want to list all of the sports the school participates in, regardless of whether they have won titles, which is one of the reasons tables don't work well.
If a school has been renamed then include titles under the previous name. If schools have merged into a new school then it is probably best to only include the post-merger titles. Meters (talk) 20:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, simply removing all mention of model years is not a solution. And please read WP:BRD. Restoring your edit after it has already been undone is not appropriate. Discuss it on the article's talk page. Meters (talk) 03:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't source it last time, and you didn't source it this time either. And the fact that you changed the supposed birth date with each edit is a good example of why we don't accept unsourced personal information. Meters (talk) 04:14, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For example, you can see on the "Quick Facts" on the right panel that the Iron Age continued to ca. 1000AD.
Without this change, the Iron Age wikipedia entry is inconsistent. It (incorrectly) claims that the Iron Age ended around 550BC, and yet further down it (correctly) notes many cases where the Iron Age persisted until at least 800AD, especially in Western Europe. 173.88.129.54 (talk) 13:41, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Read the article and the ref we use. The various end dates vary significantly, and we discuss this. If you want to change the first sentence of the lead you should discuss it on the talk page.Meters (talk) 20:19, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! The image was found through Google Creative commons license search and the license states that it is CC 4.0 which does allow users to redistribute photos. Noogometni urejevalec (talk) 21:33, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Where is the license information? Wikipedia Commons may say it is CC 4.0, but I was unable to verify that from the original source. I didn't see it when I checked the image source's page, and it would be very unusual for a news source to grant free use of their material. Having said that, I don't read the language the site's usage page is written in. Meters (talk) 21:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please add rationale for reverts, even when you think it's obvious. This helps motivate people that add there time to improve this site, especially beginner.
Also, seriously, compare the opening paragraphs of the Britannica page on Leap Years:
I appreciate what I added may have not been the best it could be, but it's tough not to step on toes while making edits and that page, like many, gets into the minutia and covers all possible usages, before covering the basics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Porco-esphino (talk • contribs) 21:27, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please use neutral thread headings. "Common decency" is not.
Add new threads at the bottom of the page, not somewhere in the middle. I have moved it.
Sign your talk page posts. I have added a timestamped signature.
Provide a diff to the edit in question [4] or at least link to the article in question Leap year.
You've had an account since 2006. You should not have to be told these things, and you certainly should not need to be treated as a beginner.
I did explain why I undid your edit. It was so badly worded that I first reverted it as vandalism, but after rereading your edit I understood what you were attempting to do and immediately left a dummy edit with reasoning for the undo [5]. Meters (talk) 21:46, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do NOT endorse what Menon is doing on the Canada page, but
I AM concerned about Magnolia677's behavior, in particular tagging good-faith edits as vandalism and removing SOURCED content as well as unsourced content
Don't bring this to my page. An admin has now warned about this continued harassment of user:Magnolia677. Take the hint. Stop commenting on that user. If anyone does bring Magnolia677 to ANI over this, the behaviour of all of you will be looked at, and I would not be surprised at all if it ends in call for WP:BOOMERANG blocks instead of any sanction for Magnolia677. Meters (talk) 06:18, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Junket25: Why are you posting this? You are not involved in this thread in any way. I know what FloridaArmy was referring to, and they know what I was referring to. Meters (talk) 23:11, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am simply responding to the fact that you inappropriately closed (twice) an AIV report against yourself. You are not an uninvolved person in whatever is going on. Let the admins deal with it. If the complaint is not valid they will not act on it.
(ec after another post by Magypsy903 was removed by Frost) Enough. I'm not involved in the AFDs. And I'm not trying to get you blocked. It's not a good idea for a brand new editor to start closing AFDs, and it's certainly not a good idea for one to edit war to strike out an AIV report against themself. At this point you might get blocked for your combination of edit warring and personal attacks even if your AFD edits are considered valid. Now please drop this. Do not post about this here again, and do not ping me to your talk page again. Meters (talk) 09:55, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But you didn't actually update the page description, despite your reversion reason making it clear that you knew the answers to both questions. When will you be adding the requested clarification to the page? (If your answer is "never", then I will put the request for clarification back onto the page.) Rob Kelk18:18, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I made it clear in my edit summary that I did not feel there was any need for clarification. There is no need to specify whether a "billion" is a long billion or a short billion. As I pointed out in my edit summary, Canada uses short billions (and so has the UK since 1974 for that matter), and per MOS:BILLION Wikipedia does not use long billions. As for the what type of power is produced, if you feel the need to specify that an electrical power generating station produces electrical power then feel free to do so, but don't clutter the article with a pointless clarification tags asking if the number is in obsolete, non-MOS terminology, or if it's measuring gamma radiation, for example. It's disruptive. Meters (talk) 22:17, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While it is your personal opinion that thearticle does not need to specifically state that the facility that is home to the Bruce Bulk Steam System does not generate steam power, the ambiguity is present in the article. Either re-word the statement or allow others to ask for re-wording. Rob Kelk18:54, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nice to see that you have now dropped your claim that we need to specify that we are not using the obsolete long billions. As for the power issue, again, if you think it needs to be reworded then go ahead. You apparently know what you think it needs to say, so WP:FIXIT. Meters (talk) 23:35, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't drop the claim that we need to specify that we are not using the obsolete long billions. I disambiguated it by simplifying the metric prefix -- which somebody else should have done years ago. As for WP:FIXIT, don't complain if I get the science wrong. Rob Kelk13:27, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding your revert of an edit because it was “sourced from his page”, please remember that Wikipedia is not itself a source - just because a page has information does not make it proper citation.
In this case, it did not matter, and your revert is correct. The information was found in an article referenced within his page. However, it would prudent and a better effort of you to add that in-line citation into the page itself rather than simply revert it back uncited and then warn a veteran user.
@Garchy: If you are going to quote me, then please do it properly. My edit summary (minor typos now corrected) was the full explanation: "his attendance is sourced in his article. He does not need to have graduated to be considered an alumnus". I assumed that your summary "Not alumnus" meant that you did not know that. Or should I have instead assumed that you didn't bother to look at Alex Karaban's article to see that he did attend Algonquin Regional High School?
I didn't warn you. I left a polite message explaining that high school students do not need to have graduated to be considered alumni, with a link to WP:ALUMNI. You reverted my post as if it were vandalism, and now you're bringing this to my page?
The long standing-consensus on alumni lists is that a student's attendance need not be referenced if it is referenced in their article. You would likely know that if you had had much experience with articles that fall under the school projects.
Your "veteran user" comment is actually quite amusing. You might want to actually look at the other user's edit statistics next time before trying to play that card. You may have had an account for a long time, but you don't have many edits, and almost none for the last eight years. Meters (talk) 01:01, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Meters. Per your request, your account has been grantedtemporary-account-viewer rights. You are now able to reveal the IP addresses of individuals using temporary accounts that are not visible to the general public. This is very sensitive information that is only to be used to aid in anti-abuse workflows. Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Temporary account IP viewer for more information on this user right. It is important to remember:
Access must not be used for political control, to apply pressure on editors, or as a threat against another editor in a content dispute. There must be a valid reason to investigate a temporary user. Note that using multiple temporary accounts is not forbidden, so long as they are not used in violation of policies (for example, block or ban evasion).
It is also important to note that the following actions are logged for others to see:
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Revealing an IP address of a temporary account.
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Remember, even if a user is violating policy, avoid revealing personal information if possible. Use temporary account usernames rather than disclosing IP addresses directly, or give information such as same network/not same network or similar. If you do not want the user right anymore then please ask me or another administrator and it will be removed for you. You may also voluntarily give up access at any time by visiting Special:Preferences. Happy editing! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:51, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I noticed that my edit was removed because it was a lower level score, I understand why you removed it but for many school pages they still include second place wins because they are still quite an accomplishment, I won't revert the edit but I just want your opinion and feedback on what I should do differently. Thank you, Littltimmyxyz Littletimmyxyz (talk) 13:57, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The norm is to only list the highest possible finishes, i.e., state championships. Other high school articles should not mention lower level finishes either. Meters (talk) 00:27, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just wanted to say thanks for cleaning that up for me. That Prince George fellow seems a bit off his rocker - I have no idea where they came from or what their fixation with my account is.
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No-one supported Swiftiefromthemid's change, and no-one thought there was any need to use dispute resolution. Request closed. Meters (talk) 05:36, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just wondering why I am blocked and prevented from uploading my article to AfC. I declared my COI, the language is neutral and the material is well sourced. Can't find a volunteer editor either. Ritchy Dube (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 23:51, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please add a header when adding a new thread, rather than adding your post to an existing thread. I have added one.
@Ritchy Dube: Please sign your talk page posts. A bot has signed it for you.
You were blocked by user:Izno on Dec 16 as a promotional account. You appealed several times and the block was eventually converted to a partial block (article space) by user:Asilvering on Dec 7.
You are blocked only from article space. Your original draft is at Draft:The Haven by Richard Dube where you moved it. Your latest draft was moved from your sandbox to Draft:Richard Dubé by Asilvering, and you were informed on your talk page [8]. There should be no reason you cannot edit either draft, request edits to them on their talk pages, or submit them. One thing you need to decide is whether you are attempting to write an article about the book, or about you. If you think the book is notable then write an article about the book, showing that it meets WP:NBOOK. Don't attempt to submit it under the name The Haven by Richard Dube. If you think you are notable then write an article about yourself (not about the book), showing that you meet WP:NBIO, or the more specific requirements of WP:AUTHOR. The draft name Richard Dubé is acceptable.
I don't know why you think you need a volunteer editor, but we're all volunteers here, and we work on what we choose to. I can't speak for anyone else, but after seeing posts from you such as:
So far, I encountered bullies and haters. A bit of a hostile environment you got going on there. and You guys wait till I die and you write lies. That's not cool.[9]
It looks like you prefer to write about me after I'm dead so you can slander and write BS. and I just want to stick that info up the editors ass before he starts writing.[10]
it feels lie [sic] some editors are guilty of conscious or unconscious bias, and engage in cyber bullying. and I am writing my article to protect the integrity of my legacy - that it will not fall into the hands of editors tainted by malice, hate and jealousy. This is my life, my voice, my story and my legacy - not yours. Let's keep it neutral, factual and verifiable please. Misrepresenting my lived epxerience [sic], distorting and hijacking my voice is a form of malicious cultural appropriation.[12] I'm not particularly inclined to spend my time on this. Meters (talk) 01:48, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You've now been formally warned for assuming bad faith and harassing other editors, and your indefinite partial block has been expanded to include user namespace. Responding on your talk page with more of the same comments is not a good idea [13]. You might want to read WP:IDHT and WP:DROPTHESTICK. Meters (talk) 20:06, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The drive will run from 1 January to 28 February 2026.
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I see you removed my comment about the size of the bounty stating it's a not a forum. I must ask where do you people get off removing information? It's not hurting anyone, but it hurt you. Can you show me where it hurt you please? Pointing out that the bounty at the end was very large indeed. I mean I would like to know how a statement of fact is turning the talk page into a "forum" as you put it? I looked at the guidelines for behavior that is unacceptable and you know what I found? Nothing of course that makes what I said a deletion. But you did it anyway? Bless you. Information must scare you. A talkpage is supposed to be for discussing how to make a better encyclopedia article. But we know that's not really the truth. It's not about information, it's about exercising pithy power.~2025-43699-73 (talk) 18:44, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:NOTAFORUM: "article talk pages exist solely to discuss how to improve articles; they are not for general discussion or voicing opinions about the article topic or anything else." You were not proposing a change to the article, you were simply blathering on about the current value of the bounty. That's clearly NOTAFORUM. And as far as your reading of WP:TALKNO, WP:NOTAFORUM is linked, as is No personal attacks. Please stay off my talk page. Meters (talk) 23:47, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't Know If I Should Place The Soviet Air Force (VVS) In The Supermarine Spitfire I Have Made One Change And Added The RAAF The VSS Had A Over 1000 Units But I Don't Know If That Is Major Operator ~2026-48778 (talk) 17:17, 4 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Previously explained on the OP's talk page: Please stop adding this. We have already explained that the number of entries in that field is limited. If you don't understand then ask on the article's talk page. Do not continue to restore your edit. OP indef'ed Meters (talk) 21:30, 8 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't remove it myself. It appears to be a list of specialty programs or courses, and I think it's OK, the same way we allow school articles to list Advanced Placement courses but not normal courses. Meters (talk) 09:31, 13 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Augmented Seventh: Sorry, lost track of this one. It's certainly a mess of edits, and the now-blocked user does appear to have been restoring edits originally made the other accounts. I've made a few, mostly relatively minor, edits. How does it look now? Meters (talk) 09:02, 21 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
What part of my addition Stop making this edit. The picture adds nothing useful to the article, and your comment is POV and unsourced. Either follow WP:BRD and discuss your contested edit on the article's talk page or leave it alone to your warning did you not understand? Don't add your own WP:POV interpretations to articles or images. Your image description "Selfie by those two women who were engaged in a very public display of mutual admiration just meters from the crowd on the jetty and were clearly enjoying playing to the gallery" has no place on Wikipedia. Meters (talk) 22:04, 22 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say that you took it, and it does not matter who took it. The description of the image is unsourced and WP:POV. For that matter, we don't even know that the woman was even taking a selfie. Meters (talk) 05:19, 23 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
What I wrote on your talk page was Do you understand that you will be reported, and likely blocked, if you continue this behaviour? After you claimed that It is not almost verbatim. In fact it was independently created. I replied No, your content addition to Income inequality in the United States was not "independently created". If you truly believe that then this is a WP:CIR issue and you should probably not be editing Wikipedia. As I wrote, it was "almost verbatim". I compared the texts. You only made a few minor changes, some of which actually garbled the text. And now you have been warned by an administrator for edit warring, and blocked for personal attacks. Meters (talk) 05:13, 23 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Even worse, the "believed to be Adam Lanza" was referring to the fact that Lanza was believed to have been the author of the Wikipedia edits in question, not that Lanza was believed to the subject of the image. Meters (talk) 01:33, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
We have explained to you twice that Virginity does not agree with your preferred definition. There are multiple sources, and they do not all agree, so you cannot make a definitive statement the way you are attempting. For the third time, Virginity makes it clear that virginity "is not an objective term with an operational definition" and that, under some social definitions of virginity, fingering does indeed result in loss of virginity. You might be advised to read WP:IDHT. You've raised this issue more than 10 times on the two talk pages. It's getting disruptive. If you keep it up you can expect to be warned again. Meters (talk) 00:52, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The only view that counts fisting as loss are among homosexual contexts. For the 5th time my request is that it’s axiomatic among heterosexuals that vaginal fisting protects virginity ~2025-37582-89 (talk) 00:58, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not spending any more time on this. You've made the same request 11 times now, and an admin has posted on your talk page to tell you to drop it. It would be a good idea to pay attention. Personal attacks are not going to help. Meters (talk) 01:02, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know that I would call most of their edits vandalism as much as POV pushing, but pblocked from article space as a result. Meters (talk) 10:16, 2 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
yeah I agree and that ip user is adding racist comments on the history changes like British living in huts nice that he is blocked and these are bunch of these hindutva nationalist users who want to rewrite the article by their religious agenda Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 10:21, 2 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Meters. If my memory serves me correctly, you do quite a bit on school-related articles. Would you mind taking a look at Boyle County High School, in particular this edit I made removing an unsourced and promotional sub-section about the school's academic team. It look like most of the content was added by UKWildcats1234 in April–May 2025, an SPA with a possible connection to the school (might even be a teacher). The content in question doesn't ever appear to have been supported by any citations and seems like a potential magnet for some namechecking. A short properly sourced paragraph about the team probably would be fine, but what was added seems to have thrown the article out of balance, even if the promotional wording could be cleaned up. FWIW, I only stumbled upon this after seeing User talk:Whpq#Question from HE Sports Desk (23:02, 24 March 2026). If I went too far in removing stuff, please feel free to revert as needed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:17, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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The Beta version of Abstract Wikipedia a new Wikimedia project which is language-independent, was launched last week. The project allows communities to build Wikipedia articles in their native language, which can be readily accessed by other users in their own languages. The wiki is powered by instructions from Wikifunctions and also based on structured content from Wikidata. Read more.
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The Growth team is running an A/B test to evaluate a clearer, more user-friendly message that promotes account creation on wikis. Currently when logged-out mobile users begin editing, they see a jarring warning message that can feel abrupt and discouraging. This also presents temporary account editing as the default rather than encouraging account creation. The test is running on ten Wikipedias, including Arabic, French, Spanish and German. Read more.
The Wikimedia Apps team is inviting feedback on how editing should work on the Wikipedia mobile apps. The discussion focuses on improving how users access editing tools when they tap "Edit". This is part of a broader effort to convert readers who develop an interest in editing, to access a more user-friendly pathway to start contributing.
View all 45 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, an issue where citation fetching from the large newspaper archive Newspapers.com was no longer working, due to a block in Citoid requests, has now been fixed. [14]
Following a motion, the GSCASTE extended-confirmed restriction in the Indian military history case has been narrowed. It now applies to caste-related topics in South Asia, and the preemptive protection remedy has been amended accordingly.
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The CampaignEvents extension now includes a new group goal-setting feature, enabling organizers to set and track event goals such as the number of articles created and participating contributors in real time. Similarly, participants can work toward shared targets and see their collective impact as the event unfolds. The feature is now available on all Wikimedia wikis. Learn more in the documentation.
The new watchlist labels feature (announced in Tech News 2026-07) is now available via VisualEditor, the source editor, and the 'watchstar' (or watch link, for skins that don't have a star icon). Previously it was only possible to assign labels via EditWatchlist. In all three places it is a new field following the expiry field.
View all 23 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the issue where talk pages on mobile with Parsoid are unusable after empty section headers, has now been fixed. [15]
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The sub-referencing feature, which lets editors add details to an existing reference without duplicating it, will be gradually rolled out to more wikis later this year. Wikis using the Reference Tooltips gadget are encouraged to update their version (typically at MediaWiki:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js as shown here) to ensure compatibility. Other reference-related gadgets may also be affected. [16]
All Wikinews editions will be closed and switched to read-only mode on 4 May 2026. Content will remain accessible, but no new edits or articles can be added. This closure was approved by the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation following extended discussions. Read more.
The Action API has had several formats for requested output. One of them, format=php, is being removed soon. Please ensure your scripts or bots use the JSON format. This removal should affect very few scripts and bots. [17]
The Special:NamespaceInfo page now includes namespace aliases. For example "WP" for the "Project" ("Wikipedia") namespace on the German Wikipedia. [18]
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Experienced editors are invited to test the Article guidance feature, designed to help less-experienced editors create well-structured, policy-compliant Wikipedia articles. Testing instructions are available. Also, after reviewing the outlines, please provide feedback on the project talk page. Based on your input, the feature will be refined and transferred to the pilot Wikipedias to translate and adapt. Check out the video explaining the feature.
The Growth team has launched an account creation experiment to evaluate whether adding an account creation button to the mobile web header increases new account registrations and encourages more mobile users to contribute to the wikis. The experiment is currently live on Hindi, Indonesian, Bengali, Thai, and Hebrew Wikipedia, and targets 10% of logged-out mobile web users.
View all 30 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, an issue where VisualEditor could get stuck loading on Windows devices with animations turned off, has now been fixed. [20]
Tools and bots that access the Notifications API (action=query&meta=notifications) will need to update their OAuth or BotPassword grants to also include access to private notifications. [23]
Due to a library upgrade, listings on category pages may be displayed out of order starting on Monday, 20th April. A migration script will be run to correct this, and will take hours to days depending on the size of the wiki (up to a week for English Wikipedia). [24]
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After two years of development, ⧼codemirror-beta-feature-title⧽, also known as CodeMirror 6, is to be promoted out of beta on Tuesday, April 21. It brings better code and wikitext readability, reduction in typing errors, and other benefits to all users of the standard syntax highlighter. A huge thank you to volunteer Bhsd who developed many of the new features, including code folding, autocompletion, and linting. [25]
A major update to the Wikipedia app for iOS is now rolling out, redesigning the interface to align with Apple's latest "Liquid Glass" visual design. Download the latest version and explore the update.
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Reading lists is a feature which allows readers to save articles to a list for reading later. This feature is now in beta on Arabic, French, Indonesian, Vietnamese, and Chinese Wikipedias and by default for all new accounts on all Wikipedias.
An experiment which explores extending Page Previews to mobile web will be launched in the week of April 20 on Arabic, English, French, Italian, Polish, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. Page Previews are pop-ups that display a thumbnail, lead paragraph, and a link to open the full article of a blue link, thereby improving content discovery. The feature is already available on desktop and in the apps. Read more about this experiment and others.
On several wikis, logged-in editors who haven't confirmed their email addresses can now see a banner encouraging them to do so. Having the email address confirmed allows a user to restore access to the account if they lose it. Learn more. [26]
View all 15 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, an issue where editing very large wiki pages in the 2017 wikitext editor caused slow loading, preview and scrolling lag, and performance issues when selecting, cutting, or pasting content, has now been fixed. [27]
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As part of the promotion of CodeMirror from a beta feature, all users will use CodeMirror instead of CodeEditor for syntax highlighting when editing JavaScript, CSS, JSON, Vue and Lua content pages. [28]
The mirrors.wikimedia.org service for Debian and Ubuntu users will sunset and stop working on May 15. The resources for the service will be replaced with new and better options. Some users may need to switch to a different server which should take about a minute. You can read more. [29]
The image and oldimage table will be removed from wikireplicas. If your tools or queries access image or oldimage directly, please update them to use the file and filerevision table before 28 May. [30]
Following the recent implementation of global API rate limits on unidentified traffic, the Wikimedia Foundation will continue efforts to ensure fair use of infrastructure by applying global limits to identified API traffic beginning the last week of April. These limits are intentionally set as high as possible to minimise impact on the community. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits and Frequently Asked Questions.
The Attribution API is now available as a beta. The API fetches information for crediting Wikimedia articles and media files wherever they are used. Reference documentation is available through the REST Sandbox special page available on all Wikimedia wikis (such as the REST sandbox on English Wikipedia). Share your feedback on the project talk page.
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There is a change in how new users are autoconfirmed that will improve anti-vandalism protection. Currently, users who have had an account for a few days and made a few edits are automatically added to the Autoconfirmed users group. This configuration tends to be exploited by some vandals, who create accounts and start to use them only after some time. To mitigate this, the configuration will be updated next week so that – for the purpose of becoming autoconfirmed – the account age will be counted from their first edit, instead of registration date. The numeric value of the age threshold will remain the same. This change will be deployed only to wikis which require at least one edit as part of the autoconfirmation conditions. [31]
All Wikipedia users with new accounts and those who activated the "automatically enable most beta features" option in their preference can now use the reading lists beta feature to save articles for later reading. This helps organize reading interests in one place for convenient access.
View all 30 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the issue where infobox images have huge padding in Firefox, has been fixed. [32]
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As a reminder, the global API rate limits will be applied this week to identified API traffic. This is to help ensure fair use of infrastructure. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, including the actual rate limits, see Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits and Frequently Asked Questions.
The administrator elections process has officially started! Interested editors are encouraged to self-nominate or arrange to be nominated by reviewing the instructions at Wikipedia:Administrator elections/May 2026/Candidates.
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The process will have a seven day call for candidates phase, a two day pause, a five day discussion phase, and a seven day private vote using SecurePoll. Discussion and questions are only allowed on the candidate pages during the discussion phase.
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Changes to user permissions made from Meta are now included in the local user permissions log (T6055).
The autoconfirmed user group will soon be modified such that the four-day account age requirement begins when an account makes its first edit (T418484).
Arbitration
The arbitration case SchroCat has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case closed on 15 April.
Per a recent motion, appeals of blocks from the conflict-of-interest VRT queue are, by default, appealed on-wiki through the normal unblock process. However, they may be heard by the Committee if COIVRTers disagree on the interpretation of the evidence or believe ArbCom would be better suited to hear the appeal. Administrators are also advised that loosening or lifting such blocks without the consent of someone with access to the queue or ArbCom can be grounds for desysopping.
Per a recent motion, restrictions issued directly by the Committee may now be enforced with blocks which work exactly like contentious topic blocks.
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The Article guidance team invites experienced editors of pilot Wikipedias—Arabic, Bangla, Japanese, Portuguese, Persian, Turkish, Simple English, Spanish, and French—to help translate and adapt sample outlines. These outlines will guide editors in creating clear, well-structured, and policy-compliant articles when using the feature once it is launched in May 2026. Simple instructions on how to translate and adapt the outlines are available.
The number of available thumbnail size preferences in MediaWiki is being reduced to three standardized options—Small (180px), Regular (250px), and Large (400px), as part of ongoing efforts to improve performance and reduce strain on thumbnail services. As a result, existing preferences will be mapped to the nearest new size (for example, smaller selections like 120px or 150px will render at 180px, while larger ones like 300px or 360px will render at 400px). The preferences interface will soon be updated to reflect these changes, and users who wish to opt out or provide feedback can do so. [33]
From now on, even when a permission expires automatically, users will receive an Echo notification similar to the standard notification for permission changes. There is a difference between this and Global reminder bot in that the latter reminds users a week before the rights are due to expire, so that they can renew the rights.
View all 32 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the problem where the ULS language selector in Special:Translate would scroll vertically when it shouldn't, has been resolved. Previously, when users opened the "Translate to English" dropdown and typed certain inputs, the dialog would scroll vertically by a few pixels even when there was enough space to display all results. The dropdown no longer shifts unnecessarily when filtering languages. [34]
The Global Watchlist, which lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on a single page, continues to improve. For example, watchlists for Wikibase sites such as Wikidata now support EntitySchema elements for better tracking. The Live Updates mode now refreshes the special page every 60 seconds to comply with the updated global API rate limits for improved real-time responsiveness. Additionally, a directionality bug that displayed links as "changes 3" instead of "3 changes" in mixed-direction lists has been fixed. [35][36][37]
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The second phase of global API rate limits has been rolled out to reduce the impact of AI crawlers and ensure fair, sustainable access to Wikimedia resources, prioritising human and mission-aligned traffic. Limits have been shifted from per-hour to per-minute, producing smoother traffic patterns and more predictable API load. Community users are not expected to be affected, and no action is required. Early indications show some User-Agent-based requestors are adjusting behaviour, and around 64% of automated API traffic has been identified. Monitoring continues, and Wikimedia Enterprise remains available for commercial support.
On 13 May, we will start the voting phase. The candidate subpages will close to public questions and discussion, and everyone will have a week to use the SecurePoll software to vote, which uses a secret ballot. You can see who voted, but not who they voted for.
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The Reader Growth team is launching an experiment to test a new Share Card feature that allows readers to create visually engaging cards from Wikipedia articles or selected article sections and share them online, with each card linking back to the original article to help expand readership and article discovery. The mobile-only A/B test will be available to a portion of readers on Arabic, Chinese, French, Vietnamese, and English Wikipedia to better understand reading and sharing habits, and is scheduled to begin the week of May 18 and run for four weeks.
The Android and iOS Wikipedia apps recently released the 25-day reading challenge into Beta, as part of efforts to drive reader engagement by encouraging users to complete reading milestones. To track their reading streak during the challenge, App users can add a widget featuring Baby Globe to their home screen. The challenge officially begins May 11.
View all 17 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, an issue where the global preference for enabling syntax highlighting in wikitext could unexpectedly disable itself after being turned on, has now been fixed. [38]
In the voting phase, the candidate subpages close to public questions and discussion, and everyone who qualifies to vote has a week to use the SecurePoll software to vote, which uses a secret ballot. You can see who voted, but not who they voted for. Please note that the vote totals cannot be made public until after voting has ended and as such, it will not be possible for you to see an individual candidate's vote total during the election. The suffrage requirements are similar to those at RFA.
Once voting concludes, we will begin the scrutineering phase, which will last for a few days, perhaps longer. Once everything is certified, the results will be posted on the results page (this is a good page to watchlist), and transcluded to the main election page. In order to be granted adminship, a non-recall candidate must have received at least 70.0% support, calculated as Support / (Support + Oppose), and a minimum of 20 support votes. Recall candidates must achieve 55.0% support. Because this is a vote and not a consensus, there are no bureaucrat discussions ("crat chats").
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After the January–February drive the article backlog was reduced to 15,179 articles and the redirect backlog to 19,053 respectively. Great job! However, both queues are growing rapidly and any additional reviews are highly appreciated.
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Hey man im josh and MPGuy2824 won the Redirect Ninja Master Award for 2024 and 2025 respectively, for reviewing the most redirects.
Overall in 2024, one Platinum, two Gold, eight Silver, 12 Bronze and 45 Iron Barnstars were awarded. Additionally, 66 reviewers got the NPP barnstar for doing more than 100 reviews through the year. In 2025, one Platinum, ten Silver, 13 Bronze and 38 Iron Barnstars were awarded. Additionally, 38 reviewers got the NPP barnstar for doing more than 100 reviews through the year.
The experimental two-month long backlog drive concluded with 183 reviewers patrolling over 27,761 articles and 35,309 redirects, earning over 36,836 points. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 6,484.6 points in this drive.
An attempt was made to get the New Pages Feed to sort by date marked as reviewed instead of date created. However we had to revert it due to bugs. We may try again in the future. You can subscribe to the Phabricator ticket if you're interested in following along.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
The Abstract Wikipedia team has identified five potential pilot wikis to assess their interest in adopting abstract articles on their wikis. The pilots are Malayalam, Bengali, Dagbani, Arabic, and Indonesian Wikipedia. The feedback period will be open until May 22. If your community is interested in becoming a pilot, let us know on Meta.
Updates for editors
An experiment to show Reading Lists to logged-out readers on mobile web will launch on May 18 across German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Polish, Dutch, Turkish, and Urdu Wikipedias, and will run for one month. The effort supports broader goals of helping readers save and organize articles for later reading, while encouraging habits that could lead to future Wikipedia contributions.
To support a bookmark button in the Reading List beta feature, the "Tools > Action" menu has been updated to display icons, including the watch star indicator that helps editors identify temporarily watched articles. The icons now also match those used on mobile, improving consistency across platforms. The change is currently limited to the actions menu and mainly affects editors with privileged user rights. [40]
Suggestion Mode was released as an A/B test for newcomer editors on the mobile website at ~15 Wikipedias. The experiment will measure the impact that Suggestion Mode has on the proportion of newcomer mobile web edit sessions that result in constructive (un-reverted) article edits. The experiment will also evaluate the feature's impact on editor retention, and monitor changes in revert and block rates.
View all 27 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, an issue in the Wikipedia Android app where images could sometimes fail to load after opening a recommended reading list notification, has now been fixed. [41]
Updates for technical contributors
The Wikidata Platform team has published its backend replacement recommendation and accompanying technical architecture for the migration of the Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) away from Blazegraph. Feedback is invited until May 25th 2026, especially on potential gaps and impacts on advanced use cases. Wikidata community members and WDQS users are also encouraged to help identify high-impact tools and workflows that may need attention on this page. Feedback can be shared on the Migration talk page or during the next office hour. See the WDP team newsletter for more details.
On English, French, Japanese, and a few other Wikipedias, there was a trial of hCaptcha, a third-party bot detection service. The trial showed that hCaptcha effectively detects and deters some bad-faith automated activity, on its own and by giving checkusers and stewards signals to look into. Because the results were positive, hCaptcha will be rolled out across all wikis over the next few weeks. See the hCaptcha project page for technical information about the implementation and privacy protections. Learn more.
The latest Community Tech update is now available, with progress across several Community Wishlist initiatives, including Reading Lists expansion from the mobile app to the website, new language support for "Who Wrote That" and the Personal Dashboard, improvements to 3D rendering and Charts, and upcoming work on talk page sorting, audio playback, and editing workflows. The update also shares current priorities, wishlist status trends, and opportunities for community feedback on future focus areas and the Wikimedia Foundation’s 2026–2027 Annual Plan. Read the full newsletter for details.
News and notes: Offline: Osama Khalid still in prison He has been imprisoned since 2020 for his Wikipedia edits. A fresh campaign is calling for his release.
Recent research: WikiLambda the Ultimate Does Abstract Wikipedia help fight "One ring to rule them all" solutions for knowledge access - or does it implement one itself?
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
Following a successful account creation experiment, an improved logged-out edit warning message will be deployed to all Wikimedia wikis in the first week of June. The change will only affect logged-out users on mobile web who open an editing session. The updated experience is designed to encourage account creation more clearly, while still allowing users to edit with temporary accounts. Results from the experiment showed a significant increase in account creation, with a 27% relative lift among users shown the updated message. As expected, as more people funnel into account creation, temporary accounts decreased by a relative 16%. The experiment did not show any significant changes in constructive edit rates or other monitored contributor metrics. [42]
Updates for editors
For security reasons, members of certain user groups are required to have two-factor authentication (2FA) enabled. Members of these groups will be unable to disable the last 2FA method on their account, and it will be impossible to add users without 2FA to these groups. Users will still be able to add new authentication methods or remove them, as long as at least one method is continuously enabled. In the next few weeks, users without 2FA will be removed from these groups. Notably, this applies to bureaucrats. See the linked tasks for deployment schedules. [43][44]
After two successful experiments, the Reader Growth team is rolling out an Image Browsing beta feature for all Wikipedias on mobile on May 25. This means that anyone who has all beta features on by default will start to see this feature, and others can check the box to turn it on in their preferences. The beta feature will include a carousel of all an article's images at the top of the article, with controls for editors to exclude images from the article's carousel or to exclude an article from the feature entirely.
View all 30 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, three dimensional STL files were being rendered incorrectly by the media viewer 3D extension which is now fixed. [45]
Updates for technical contributors
The legacy CSS classes tleft and tright have been replaced with floatleft and floatright as the former do not work consistently across all MediaWiki platforms, notably mobile web and mobile apps. Projects relying on these classes are encouraged to review related usage and plan for migration. Please note that floatleft and floatright may also be deprecated in future, although there are currently no plans to do so. Read more.
Mandatory 2FA for bureaucrats: Bureaucrats without two-factor authentication (2FA) enabled have already lost access to their advanced rights on 26 May. Those who do not enable 2FA may be automatically removed from the groups in mid-June 2026, and from that point onward, new members must have 2FA enabled before they can be added. (T423119, T423120)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
The Reader Experience team is conducting an experiment to show the reading lists feature, which is still in development, to logged-out mobile readers to test whether it encourages account creation at a higher rate compared to the watchstar button. The experiment was launched on May 18th on German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Polish, Dutch, Turkish, and Urdu wikis, and it will run for a month.
The Wikimedia Apps team released Phase 1 of the redesigned Home Feed to the Android Beta app. The new Home Feed includes a refreshed "Community" tab and a personalized "For You" tab featuring daily updated reading recommendations. The redesign is part of a broader effort to improve content discovery and create more engaging learning experiences in the Wikipedia apps.
View all 18 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, an issue where images could fail to load for some suggested edits on Special:Homepage, leaving the thumbnail stuck in a loading state, has now been fixed. [46]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
Wikimedia Enterprise has increased the free usage limits for its API offerings. The monthly request limit for the On-demand API has increased from 5,000 to 50,000 requests, while the Snapshot API limit has increased from 15 to 30 requests per month. In addition, Structured Contents snapshots are now available for free accounts. These changes expand access to Wikimedia Enterprise data for developers, researchers, and organizations using Wikimedia content. [47]
Updates for editors
The refreshed Explore Feed, now called the Home Feed, is rolling out to 50% of users of the Wikipedia Android app. The Home Feed helps readers discover relevant content through two new tabs: Community and For You. The Community tab provides a scrollable feed of curated content and updates from the broader Wikimedia community and movement, while the For You tab offers a full-screen, swipeable experience that shows content tailored to a user's interests. The redesign is part of a broader effort to improve discovery and enhance the learning experience in the Wikipedia app.
The Which came first? daily trivia game is now available in the beta version of the Wikipedia iOS app in English, German, French, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, and Turkish. The game uses historical events from Wikipedia's "On This Day" content and challenges readers to guess which of two events happened first. The game was previously released on Android. Communities interested in making the game available in their languages can read the instructions and requirements.
Sub-referencing, a new MediaWiki feature that allows editors to reuse references with different details, will begin rolling out to Wikimedia wikis following a successful pilot phase. Deployment will start on 8 June for most Group 1 wikis and French Wikipedia, with additional Wikipedia language editions receiving the feature over the coming months. Communities are encouraged to prepare by checking for untranslated Cite extension messages in their language and reviewing any use of Reference Tooltips, which may require updates to support the new functionality. Wikis using Reference Previews do not need to take any action. Communities may also wish to create the cite-tracking-category-ref-detailstracking category as a hidden category using __HIDDENCAT__ (or a dedicated template), and connect it to the corresponding Wikidata item d:Q129764848. [48]
The Page Previews experiment on mobile web has concluded. The team decided not to roll out the feature after the results showed no statistically significant impact on reader retention, as the primary success metric was retention improvement. Page Previews, which are already available on desktop and in the apps, display a thumbnail, lead paragraph, and link to the full article when readers tap a blue link. The experiment tested this experience on mobile web across six Wikipedias.
The user interface icon library will be updated later this week or next week. Most of the ~300 icons have been slightly refined and ~30 new icons have been added. These changes improve the icons to make them more consistent and comprehensible, and provide more visual balance when they are used in groups.
The Universal Language Selector (ULS) interface in MediaWiki, which helps users select content in other languages, has been updated. The new version improves speed and accessibility, and users of Wikimedia projects can now pin languages for quicker language switching. The deployment to Wikimedia sites will happen gradually in the coming weeks. You can test it now as a beta feature by selecting beta features in your profile preferences and share your feedback on the project page.
View all 21 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, an issue where the Pageviews Analysis dashboard on pageviews.wmcloud.org stopped updating graph data in May 2026, affecting all users, has been fixed. [49]
Updates for technical contributors
The function signature for mw.util.addPortletLink() has been simplified. Developers can now pass a configuration object instead of a list of positional parameters when creating portlet links. The previous function signature remains supported for backwards compatibility. For example, instead of: mw.util.addPortletLink('p-cactions', '#', 'Stub', 'ca-stubtag', 'Add a stub tag to this page'); use mw.util.addPortletLink('p-cactions', { href: '#', text: 'Stub', id: 'ca-stubtag', tooltip: 'Add a stub tag to this page' });. Script maintainers are encouraged to review existing uses of addPortletLink() and update them where appropriate. This change will be available on all wikis from 11 June. Thanks to community volunteer Gerges for contributing this improvement. [50]
Community Wishlist discussion: Product & Technology introduced changes meant to increase the number and complexity of wishes fulfilled, including the disbanding of the Community Tech team. They are engaging in discussions about a proposed direction for the wishlist from community members. Includes ways to structure annual voting, better tracking of wishes, removing focus areas, and staffing updates.
Hi Meters. Please look at these two sources re: Leachim. They are not the most powerful, but legitimate and useful. You reversed both. I am no expert on Wikipedia, but I try to be helpful. These are not phony sites.
You also reversed my edits on Concrete and "electorial" college. Half the youths in America do not understand this. Manufacturing concrete produces more air pollution than all cars combined! Isn't this worth mentioning? I am not here to argue. I'd appreciate your reply with no threat, please. DC-4 (talk) 09:24, 9 June 2026 (UTC) Thanks. Drycroft4 or davidhalpernist@gmail.com[reply]
Please learn to use talk pages properly.
Start new threads at the bottom of the page. I have moved your thread.
Add a header for a new thread. I have added a header to your thread.
Please indent and format your thread properly. I have outdented your thread and listified your list.
Don't edit other threads. You made 22 pointless whitespace edits to unrelated threads on my talk page [51]
Please provide diffs to the edits in question, or at least link to the articles in question.
Why are you opening this on my talk page rather than your own talk page, where we were already posting about these edits?
As for your questions:
re Leachim: The above refs are not what you attempted to add to the article and that I removed [52]. Neither of the sources that I removed said anything about this device, hence my summary "bogus refs".
re Concrete: I already explained on your talk page why I undid your edits. You first attempted to use Google search as a source, and then Fairplanet, which as an organization specializing in "environmental justice" is a questionable source. Your wording was not neutral, was awkwardly worded, and not supported by the source. The lead is a summary of what the body of the article says. It is not a place to introduce new claims, particularly poorly sourced non-neutral claims. The article has a section on environmental impacts.
re Electoral college: The lead (or anywhere else in the article for that matter) does not need your aside that it is not "Electorial college". It does not matter if you think students often make this mistake. Your supposed ref does not mention the mistake, and it's obvious from the "source=chatgpt.com" that you were using an AI.
As for your "I'd appreciate your reply with no threat, please" there's no need for that. I have not threatened you in any way. You have been making inappropriate edit and have been given canned warnings, with extra explanations. It is a personal attack for you to suggest that I have threatened you.
View all 45 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, an issue where citation fetching from the large newspaper archive Newspapers.com was no longer working, due to a block in Citoid requests, has now been fixed. [14]
Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
Arbitration
The new watchlist labels feature (announced in Tech News 2026-07) is now available via VisualEditor, the source editor, and the 'watchstar' (or watch link, for skins that don't have a star icon). Previously it was only possible to assign labels via EditWatchlist. In all three places it is a new field following the expiry field.
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The ResourceLoader module 
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