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January 2026

Hello, I'm Danners430. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Ngurah Rai International Airport, but you didn't provide a reliable source. On Wikipedia, it's important that article content be verifiable. If you'd like to resubmit your change with a citation, your edit is archived in the page history. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 09:28, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks Danners430 for the notification. A couple of things. First of all, I have been editing here for 14 years so I am indeed aware of WP:V. I would have preferred you reach out to me and ask for clarification of why I handled it the way I did, rather than immediately reverting. However, I will as always assume good faith and explain to you what happened here.

The news of this announcement only broke less than 2 hours before it was added to this list, well before the airline had confirmed any of the details. As such, the initial source provided - from a publication which of questionable reliability - came out before the airline's own formal press release. When i made the edits you reverted to reflect the service was seasonal, I did leave the url of the press release that confirmed this in both edit summaries by way of an explanation. This is contrary to your own edit summary which claims you were rolling back "unexplained content removal and addition of unsourced content".

As you would be aware, secondary sources are preferable to primary ones, so I was waiting for updated reliable secondary sources to appear on Google to add as inline citations backing up it is a seasonal service per the press release. These were available at the time you reverted my edit and restored the incomplete information based on the unreliable source. but unfortunately, you beat me to it.

I have now updated the inline citation to a source that accurately reports the information provided by the airline. I hope this clears things up for you, and I will aim to do better with more specific edit summaries in the future to avoid any confusion. If you do have any questions or concerns with my edits in the future, please reach out to me here to discuss! Thanks! Dfadden (talk) 12:50, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

I thought I had replied to this - obviously the app failed for me...

If you've been on Wikipedia for 14 years, and are aware of WP:V, then you'll know that sources go in articles and not in edit summaries. A reader cannot be expected to hunt for sources in the page history. The only sources that matter are those in the article, and the source that was there contradicted the edit you were making. That is the only reason the edit was reverted - you made an edit which contradicted the source in the article, and didn't provide a source to verify your claim. To reiterate - the source in your edit summary is all well and good, but it doesn't satisfy WP:V because it's not in the article.

I know you'll reply with "oh you could have done it for me" - however it is your responsibility to provide reliable sources for your edits per WP:BURDEN, it's not for others to tidy up after you. I appreciate this was a mistake - and that's why there's a level 1 notice here instead of a threat to go to ANI or something silly.

As for not reaching out... I'm a recent changes patroller. I have never come across you before now. When I leave a user warning template, I don't go into someone's Wikipedia editing history to find out who they are - if they've never received a level 1 warning, and their talk page is somewhat empty (like yours is), then I leave a level 1 warning and that's it (unless there's a no templates please notice of course). Danners430 _{tweaks made} 14:22, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Aside from the fact my talk page has an archive and thus far from empty. I would have thought my edit summary would be enough for you to consider WP:BURDENWAIT might apply here. The information i provided in the edit summary was enough to challenge the quality of the information in the source provided (something a new changes patroller should be interested in) while I went away and found a better, non primary source. But at the same time, it was not completely incorrect with regards to the date so I chose not to immediately remove it while i found a better source. Had I replaced the original inline citation with the press release, I would have expected somebody to say it was a primary source thus unreliable, which is why I didnt do so as I said. I would have thought a new changes patroller would have taken the basic step of confirming the original source was accurate and not contradicted by more reliable ones via Google anyway...

This really is really a storm in a teacup over quite a minor thing, which is now fixed as I had always intended to do. Believe it or not, my goal here was to improve the encyclopedia, addressing something that was obviously wrong promptly while balancing other off wiki responsibilities. Had you come across this edit an hour or 2 later, I would have added the updated inline citation and we wouldnt be having this conversation. So I really dont know why you are even mentioning ANI as the step you could have taken as an alternative to a level 1 warning had I not explained it to your satisfaction. Thats hardly WP:AGF and comes across more as somebody who is just trying to prove a WP:POINT and would indeed by very silly. Good day! Dfadden (talk) 20:29, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

WikiCanberra Meetup May 2026

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Canberra Airport

Please stop your disruptive editing of the Canberra Airport article. We have already had a discussion on the talk page of Darwin International Airport and citations are required on Wikipedia. If there is no citation there is no evidence supporting that the airline even flies to that destination from the airport. Thanks AndrewDaniels23 (talk) 01:11, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

What are you even talking about? I have provided citations in my edit! A discussion I havent seen on a talk page of a different article is hardly grounds to accuse me of disruptive editing, especially as my edit PROVIDED a source. I remind you that one of the core principles of wikipedia is to assume good faith. Dfadden (talk) 01:57, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

There are no citations to support that the routes even exist. A similar issue also occurred with the Darwin international airport page. See the discussion there why it's important. AndrewDaniels23 (talk) 02:00, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Please stop gaslighting me. If you check the differences between edits, it clearly shows I added a citation for the Virgin and Qantas routes that links to the website here: [1]

I see you are a new editor, so perhaps you are unfamiliar with how to do see the differences between edits? If that is the case, i am happy to help you learn. But it is a behavioural expectation here that you are collaborative and assume good faith. Accusing somebody of disruptive edits when they have added the citations you requested is in itself disruptive edits and it is unreasonable to expect an editor to be aware of a discussion on another pahe they have not participated in. Dfadden (talk) 02:08, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Note they’ve been blocked for socking. There is one issue with the edit, but it’s minor - and that’s that the source is against the airline, not the individual routes… generally sources would be applied to the content they verify, so right now it would appear they’re verifying the airline, not the routes. Would you mind moving them to verify each of the routes without citations? Danners430 _{tweaks made} 05:50, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Danners430. I actually did that on purpose, as the source covers all the routes from those airlines (rather than duplicating it across each individual destination). I will admit, I did not consult the Manual of Style, so if thats not compliant, I apologise. I am happy to make that change if it will stop the back and forth reversions and will get onto it later today. Thanks. Dfadden (talk) 06:00, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Aye, I’m just thinking consistency with the rest of the table more than anything else - an alternative option is you can create a refs column by adding a third parameter to each row in the template… if you have a look at Washington Dulles International Airport you’ll see how that’s done :)

As for the back and forth nonsense… it looks like the page is protected so for the time being there’s breathing space! Danners430 _{tweaks made} 06:02, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Done! Also, these lists are one rare case where being able to use primary sources has been a big improvement (and is more accurate than relying on media coverage to prove routes that have existed for decades do indeed exist). So thank you for pursuing that. Dfadden (talk) 06:34, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes they absolutely are - obviously third party sources are still preferred, but if they don't exist then better to have something otherwise reliable :) Danners430 _{tweaks made} 06:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

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WikiCanberra Meetup June 2026

I am letting you know that there will be a meetup for Canberra Wikimedians on 13 June at the National Library if you are interested. Refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Canberra/June_2026 LPascal (talk) 01:56, 6 June 2026 (UTC)