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Hi, in looking over our edits from yesterday and today on the Never again page, I reverted two of your edits, and you reverted three of my edits. The first time I reverted, I reverted something where I thought you had made a mistake in your revert. I did not know before that red links are sometimes allowed, so I took out the red link a second time. I also left in your revert where you put back language that was not in the source, because in the end, it wasn't a big deal to me. Today I made two completely valid high-quality new edits, which were not reverts, and then you posted a threatening message saying I could get blocked for warring.
How can this be construed as anything other than you trying to indimidate me into not editing the page? You have 140,000+ edits, and that was very aggressive, and it's not acceptable for you to so cavalierly do something like this to a newer editor, as it's very chilling. Slava570 (talk) 14:55, 15 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Slava570 I have no issue with edits that improve the page. I do have an issue with edits to the lead that don't reflect the article body and sources. (t · c) buIdhe00:32, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is not the content of my edits, which I stand by. The issue is your behavior. If you post another intimidating message on my talk page after I make good faith edits, I will take it to the appropriate noticeboard. Slava570 (talk) 11:10, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
So now it's intimidation to post appropriate warnings when users make problematic edits ?? I don't care if you edit the article only if the edits are improving it. (t · c) buIdhe17:18, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
There was absolutely nothing problematic about the edits. They were done in good faith. And by the way, at least one of your reverts was problematic, as it was WP:OR, but it was something so petty that I didn't really care. If you have a disagreement about something, you can go to the talk page and discuss it. Going straight to my user page and threatening to have me blocked is intimidation. I hadn't even reverted you the three times that I'm allowed, and again, one of my reverts was something I thought you had mistakenly reverted, the red link. You call that warring? Maybe you're so invested in the article that you perceive any minor change as an attack on you personally. That is not fair.
I plan on editing the page more in the future, and you don't own the place. I'm happy to discuss any differences of opinion about the content of the article on the talk page, though. Slava570 (talk) 22:27, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Actually all of your edits would be considered reverts, as they removed content that had earlier been added to the article in previous edits by other editors.
I have no way to read anyone's mind but it's hard to see how someone could have made the edits that you did with the stated justification if they had just taken a look at the article and its sources. I do expect that all contributors to WP only make edits if they have sufficient familiarity with the sources to represent the topic accurately. (t · c) buIdhe23:28, 16 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Actually all of your edits would be considered reverts this is absurd, and maybe it gets to the heart of this conflict. No, all edits to a page are not reverts. If that were the case then the rule would be you could only make three edits to an article per day, since they are all reverts. That's clearly not the case. Wikipedia:Reverting says, for example, Alice re-phrases the wording in the first paragraph of an existing article [is] A normal change, not a reversion.
My justifications were all clearly written in my edit summaries. For example, in this edit [1] I wrote "closer to source." That's because I actually went into the source and found that the author did not say "believed to be" but "was." You then reverted and replied [2]it's impossible to say if the phrase could have been used earlier This is your original reserach, not what the source said. Stop trying to imply that I have no familiarity with the topic. If you have a disagreement, from now on we need to start on the talk page. Slava570 (talk) 11:37, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Adding original content that you just wrote to a page is never a revert. Removing content is likely considered a revert. Modifying could go either way depending on context, but this example can be considered a partial revert because it removes content that a previous editor added. this edit of yours is definitely a revert of this previous edit. There is no obligation to slavishly follow the wording of the cited source, although in the case you claim is "original research" it might be better to explicitly attribute the source for the claim. Ask on an appropriate noticeboard if you don't believe me. (t · c) buIdhe17:16, 17 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Just noticed that it lost GA status back in March. Sorry to hear that. You've put up so much work in that article so I hope that it'll regain its GA status sometime in the future. Vacant0(talk • contribs)16:49, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Nice to hear from you Vacant0. I am not nearly as active as I used to be since I'm out doing fun things like climbing this mountain (t · c) buIdhe14:28, 25 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I came to see if you were unaware of the principles governing contentious topics articles. As it seems you are, I am quite surprised by this edit. There is a talk page section where the change I made was proposed and is being discussed. You are invited to participate in it, and bring sources to discuss. Tiamut (talk) 22:35, 25 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I saw the discussion, and as I stated in the edit summary, it doesn't seem that you have consensus for the edit. (t · c) buIdhe23:37, 25 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The ethnonational wording was introduced without a discussion. I opened a discussion asking the rationale for its use and when none was provided, after presentinf and reviewing the sources, I changed it. The two editors who were discussing there with me after the change raised questions but did not oppose the change. Only the non-confirmed editor did. As you know they cannot edit such articles. When they made a request to change the wording (without providing any new sources), I declined. Then you came along and reverted my edit citing talk. You did not inform the editor of the contentious topic restrictions either.
In your post you stated I would like to change "ethnonational" to "national, thus implying that the former was the stable version. (t · c) buIdhe18:17, 26 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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