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DYK for Gerlin Bean

On 19 July 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gerlin Bean, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that activist Gerlin Bean co-founded the Organisation of Women of African and Asian Descent in 1978, an event described as "a watershed in the history of Black women's rights activism"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gerlin Bean. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Gerlin Bean), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:03, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

AfD is just not the same without you, but here is some tea while we await your return, with best wishes for your health and healing. Beccaynr (talk) 01:34, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Joanna Simon (mezzo-soprano)

On 21 October 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Joanna Simon (mezzo-soprano), which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 21:56, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for José Evangelista

On 15 January 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article José Evangelista, which you had created back in 2010. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 17:28, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Virginia Zeani

On 24 March 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Virginia Zeani, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 17:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Carolina White

On 26 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Carolina White, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Carolina White performed the title role in the United States premiere of Il segreto di Susanna at the Metropolitan Opera in 1911? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carolina White. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Carolina White), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Aoidh (talk) 12:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Maria Giustina Turcotti

On 23 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Maria Giustina Turcotti, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that according to one critic, Italian opera singer Maria Giustina Turcotti "sang very well but was fat to the point of deformity"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Maria Giustina Turcotti. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Maria Giustina Turcotti), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

ITN notice

On 31 May 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Javier Álvarez (composer), which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Schwede66 22:44, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Vera Curtis

On 29 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Vera Curtis, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Vera Curtis was the first singer trained exclusively in the United States to perform with the Metropolitan Opera? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Vera Curtis. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Vera Curtis), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for expanding and referencing the article on the Jewish/Israeli folk song Hevenu shalom aleichem! gidonb (talk) 14:15, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Hevenu shalom aleichem

On 2 November 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hevenu shalom aleichem, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after signing the Camp David Accords in 1978, Prime Minister Menachem Begin ended a speech with a desire to sing the peace song "Hevenu shalom aleichem" with the people of Israel? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hevenu shalom aleichem. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hevenu shalom aleichem), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

November songs

my story today · music

Thank you for what you put into the peace song, making it survive, - my story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I added some images from Aachen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for another theatre! - I proudly remember having sung in an oratorio premiere seven years ago OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Today I have three items on the Main page today, almost too much of a good thing! Bach's amazing cantata with the unusual scale, first performed 300 years ago OTD, the nun for the prostitutes, and Schumann's wedding gift for Clara. Working on Ryland Davies, - perhaps you can add? I'll get over more detail from the GLS tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Davies looks much better. Today is St. Martin's Day, which stands for sharing. Thank you for sharing music! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:39, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

User Talk:Gerda Arendt#Mozart Requiem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Guglielmo Zuelli

On 3 November 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Guglielmo Zuelli, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that composer Guglielmo Zuelli (pictured), a former director of the Palermo Conservatory, spent time in prison before the age of eight? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Guglielmo Zuelli. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Guglielmo Zuelli), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Palermo Conservatory

On 3 November 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Palermo Conservatory, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that composer Guglielmo Zuelli (pictured), a former director of the Palermo Conservatory, spent time in prison before the age of eight? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Guglielmo Zuelli. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Palermo Conservatory), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Just wanted to echo what others are saying about how great your hook is, and how it instantly drew me to the article. Fantastic work. Viriditas (talk) 18:12, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Viriditas for the kind words.4meter4 (talk) 13:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

In appreciation

		The Barnstar of Diplomacy
		With thanks for your civility, good faith and willingness to do your own research at Talk:Tale of the Moon Cuckoo; I believe we've reached a solution agreeable to all. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:32, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Douglas Ahlstedt

On 30 November 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Douglas Ahlstedt, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 09:14, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

December songs

story · music

Thank you for the article! - Today, I managed to updated my images to Paris (trip begun on 29 Nov) with a visit to the Palais Garnier, - to match the story of Medea Amiranashvili, - don't miss listening to her expressive voice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

My story today is about Michael Robinson, - it's an honour to have known him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Lee Orean Smith

Lee Orean Smith's father was the musical director of a theatre orchestra.

You wrote this in Lee Orean Smith. Just curious on where the source about this is. I'm sort of researching about composers like him. Komitsuki (talk) 04:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

See the cited source. The entire paragraph is cited to Rehrig, William H.; Bierley, Paul E. (1991). "Lee Orean Smith". The Heritage Encyclopedia of Band Music: Composers and Their Music, Volume II. Integrity Press. ISBN 9780918048080. I had a physical copy of the book but you can access the book online in its updated version (other authors have since expanded the encyclopedia in its online form) through subscription at https://www.acbands.org/hebm There is also a blog which talks about his father making a living as a pharmacist while leading a local orchestra https://blog.wabash.edu/dearoldwabash/2019/09/30/tin-pan-alley-alum/ (I left this out as it is a blog) Rehrig and Bierley describe the orchestra as a theatre orchestra. If I remember rightly there is also an interview in Metronome magazine from September 1922 in which Smith relates details about training as a musician under his father and playing in theatre orchestras. I also left this out because it was not an independent source. Best.4meter4 (talk) 06:45, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Komitsuki (talk) 04:08, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas

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Hello 4meter4: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, --Dustfreeworld (talk) 13:24, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

2024

Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

I have a DYK on the Main page, but my story would be different, about Figaro, - this Figaro. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:49, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for William Carter (composer)

On 14 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William Carter (composer), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that composer and conductor William Carter began a career as a professional organist at the age of nine? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Carter (composer). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, William Carter (composer)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 06:24, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Genoa Conservatory

On 21 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Genoa Conservatory, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after Nazi Germany placed anti-aircraft batteries on the property of the Genoa Conservatory, the school moved into the Villa Saluzzo Serra (pictured) art museum to maintain the safety of its students? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Genoa Conservatory. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Genoa Conservatory), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

WaggersTALK 00:02, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Black Souls (play)

On 4 February 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Black Souls (play), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Annie Nathan Meyer's Black Souls was one of the first "lynching dramas" created by a white woman? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Black Souls (play). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Black Souls (play)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Works about taxi drivers has been nominated for merging

Category:Works about taxi drivers has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Fuddle (talk) 14:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for James Light (director)

On 19 February 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article James Light (director), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that James Light was threatened by the Ku Klux Klan when he staged a play with an interracial couple? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/James Light (director). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, James Light (director)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

March thanks

story · music · places

Thank you for expanding Cecelia Hall! I think you could try GA even. On Smetana's 200th birthday -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Vacation pics uploaded, at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. I think of the theatre, but more people died, one mentioned on project opera. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Next day, around Porto da Cruz, on Bach's birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I enjoy seeing Jean Schwartz pictured on the Main page today! - Johann Strauss Theater begun, - I trust that you can add some of the English sources you mentioned, because it's scarcely referenced in German. I wonder why Lord Piccolo isn't among the premieres. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your professional help for the conductor who is now on the Main page. I listen to Bach's St John Passion today, - 300 years after it was first performed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:31, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Lottie Williams (actress, born 1866)

On 16 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lottie Williams (actress, born 1866), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the actress Lottie Williams was one of the cakewalk dancers depicted on the front cover of the sheet music for Scott Joplin's "Maple Leaf Rag" (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lottie Williams, actress born 1866. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lottie Williams (actress, born 1866)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for The Red Moon (Johnson and Cole)

On 19 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Red Moon (Johnson and Cole), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Red Moon (sheet music pictured) was the first Broadway show to depict alliances between African Americans and Native Americans? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Red Moon (Johnson and Cole). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Red Moon (Johnson and Cole)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Cecelia Hall (mezzo-soprano)

On 23 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cecelia Hall (mezzo-soprano), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that American mezzo-soprano Cecelia Hall portrayed the lead male role in Mozart's Ascanio in Alba? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cecelia Hall (mezzo-soprano). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cecelia Hall (mezzo-soprano)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

WaggersTALK 00:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC) Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Kenneth Raisbeck

On 26 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kenneth Raisbeck, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite falling out with novelist Thomas Wolfe, Kenneth Raisbeck was the basis for a character in Of Time and the River? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kenneth Raisbeck. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Kenneth Raisbeck), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Jean Schwartz

On 27 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jean Schwartz, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Jean Schwartz and William Jerome (pictured) wrote more than 1,000 popular songs together? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jean Schwartz. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Jean Schwartz), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for The Sleeping Beauty and the Beast

On 27 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Sleeping Beauty and the Beast, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that composer Frederick Solomon adapted several British pantomimes into Broadway musicals, including The Sleeping Beauty and the Beast (sheet music pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Sleeping Beauty and the Beast. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Sleeping Beauty and the Beast), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 12:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Frederick Solomon

On 27 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Frederick Solomon, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that composer Frederick Solomon adapted several British pantomimes into Broadway musicals, including The Sleeping Beauty and the Beast (sheet music pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Sleeping Beauty and the Beast. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Frederick Solomon), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 12:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Henri Berény

On 31 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Henri Berény, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that due to his Hungarian background, composer Henri Berény was banned from living and working in Paris during World War I and his home was seized by the French government? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Henri Berény. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Henri Berény), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 14:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Marcelle (musical)

On 6 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Marcelle (musical), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as the title character in Marcelle, actress Louise Gunning portrayed a Parisian barmaid who masquerades as her brother, a soldier? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marcelle (musical). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Marcelle (musical)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Joseph Redding

Hello! Your submission of Joseph Redding at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

April music

story · music · places

Sorry, I'm a bit overwhelmed by deaths, articles here and also in real life. Please excuse my limited interest in discussing things that will result in a few 100 views more or less, if at all, in that perspective. Notker Wolf, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm a bit overwhelmed by deaths, and am slowly working on the articles for two of those for which new sources need to be incorporated before they can be nominated (two others are on the Main page right now), and the funeral in real life is on 12 April. I read your review with interest and thought I'd work on that article afterwards. But the load of tags in the article puts me under pressure. Do you understand? I suggest I ask questions here, and then remove the tags one by one when you agree.

1. Summary of the conductor's position. She has an article - I thought. It's not "opinion" but as quick a summary as I could think. She had a different position when she founded the orchestra than she has now, which is the first woman as music director of an Italian opera house, in Bologna. How detailed would you want it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

   I tried to split two run-ons, insert three positions for the conductor (with two references from her bio), tried "this orchester" once (didn't want to say Bundesjugendorchester twice in a row), and made the connection between Lviv and the conductor. Too tired for more. To be continued but only after the first of the two RD is nominated. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt Take your time. Don't feel pressured to get this done today or even this week. Take as much time as you need.4meter4 (talk) 22:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

I woke up to this invitation, thank you. To take my time was my intention, but seeing the article tags made me feel under pressure, and I can't help that feeling. My brain tells me that they were written in order to help and that it shouldn't matter to have my incompetence publicly displayed, but my stomach doesn't listen. - I feel better now, having succeeded to integrate more obituaries for Michael Boder, even one in English, and thrown out two company refs as less reliable, according to your words. - I worked on the first paragraph for the orchestra around midnight, please check. The time to continue will be after some hours of real life. Tomorrow's funeral with travel will keep me away most of that day, choir rehearsal same on Saturday, and I try not to work on Sundays. Therefore I'd like to get the article somewhat improved later today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

The day went not as planned, but in the end I got to some copy-editing: shorter sentences, more links and explanations. Please check. I asked a few users to help copy-editing and finding sources, perhaps in Ukrainian. Bedtime. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

My story today is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, and I just returned from a (long) Handel opera about the same age. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

The last of 6 RD articles is on the Main page now - relief. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

(followed by two birthdays) - I added a new hook to the Holender nom, in case of interest. Nice to see another opera singer on the Main page, even pictured, - funny that his name is Holland ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

today a sad task - memory of Andrew Davis - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the singer DYK today! The Ukrainian youth orchestra is in the same set, - thank you again for your sourcing contributions, as a constructive reviewer! - My brother is pictured with the Marta concert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for George W. Munroe

On 12 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article George W. Munroe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Broadway and vaudeville star George W. Munroe (pictured) was known for his comic female impersonations of elderly Irish women? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George W. Munroe. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, George W. Munroe), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass 12:02, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

George W. Munroe

Fascinating article; great job! Josh Milburn (talk) 13:43, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

• @Josh Milburn Thank you for the kind words. I enjoyed writing it.4meter4 (talk) 15:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Silvio Hein

On 13 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Silvio Hein, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after Broadway musical composer Silvio Hein died in 1928, the pallbearers at his funeral included Irving Berlin, John Philip Sousa, and Jerome Kern? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Silvio Hein. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Silvio Hein), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Josef Weiss

On 15 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Josef Weiss, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that pianist and composer Josef Weiss created the first film score in the history of German cinema? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Josef Weiss. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Josef Weiss), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Winterberg

On 16 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Robert Winterberg, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1906, composer Robert Winterberg gave a concert for the queen of Romania? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Winterberg. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Robert Winterberg), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for a much needed article, and not even in German yet. It's featured on Portal:Germany, pictured and with music. What landed on the Main page would not have attracted me, - I only looked because of the German name as possibly interesting for the Portal (and yes, he was!). I am not liked on WP:ERRORS, but think the change should be discussed on WT:DYK, and also better not by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt Thanks for the kind words. The original hook was brought up at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Prep7#Robert Winterberg where there were many editors complaining the hook was boring. I went with the Queen of Romania thing because they were threatening to not feature the article at all. I too found the other hook more interesting, but then, like you, I am somewhat knowledgable about German operetta in comparison to the average person. The original hook would have been more interesting to someone who likes opera and musical theatre history. The queen of Romania hook was probably more interesting to a general audience. Thanks for taking the time to feature the original hook in the portal.4meter4 (talk) 16:15, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. As you may have seen, I didn't know anything about the history when I saw the two hooks, and had no time to find out, and made my choice for Portal:Germany, where the other hook would have not supplied any connection, while a piece in German and successful in German was a simple connection. I found out about the discussion only later, and commented there. I think this "interesting to a broad readership" is trying to achieve something impossible, and believe it would be better if it was "interesting to those who find the topic interesting". Liviu Holender, btw, will give a recital tomorrow singing Mahler, Schönberg, Zemlinsky, and others from the period. That's what he is good at. I don't know if I can make it, but am very happy that I won't have to be guilty to report on Wikipedia's Main page trivia such as that he held hands with his wife ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

I have a ticket for the recital. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Wunderbar.4meter4 (talk) 22:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, and yes, it was. Very intense, anti-war songs, songs of departure ... - free choice of seats, so I sat quite close to the piano. The baritone sang everything from memory, and introduced the music speaking. Schönberg Op. 1 deserves an article. Korngold and Schreker were the other two composers whose music was banned by the Nazis. - Congrats to the baritone below. On the opera talk and for Portal:Germany, he is pictured. I have no idea why the DYK would miss such a chance to show not only how he looks, but how he acts, and the period (which in the hook could be anywhere anytime). I added "baritone" and the "Berlin State Opera" in both cases, - "an opera star" is as vague as can be. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Schwarz (baritone)

On 18 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joseph Schwarz (baritone), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in opposition to his parents, opera star Joseph Schwarz began his career by running away from home to join a band of traveling minstrels? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph Schwarz (baritone). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Joseph Schwarz (baritone)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Owen Murphy (songwriter)

On 22 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Owen Murphy (songwriter), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Albert Gumble and Owen Murphy's music score for the Broadway musical Red Pepper was dismissed by one critic as not "real music" because of its embrace of jazz? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Owen Murphy (songwriter). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Owen Murphy (songwriter)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Albert Gumble

On 22 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Albert Gumble, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Albert Gumble and Owen Murphy's music score for the Broadway musical Red Pepper was dismissed by one critic as not "real music" because of its embrace of jazz? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Owen Murphy (songwriter). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Albert Gumble), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Red Pepper (musical)

On 22 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Red Pepper (musical), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Albert Gumble and Owen Murphy's music score for the Broadway musical Red Pepper was dismissed by one critic as not "real music" because of its embrace of jazz? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Owen Murphy (songwriter). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Red Pepper (musical)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Olga von Türk-Rohn

On 30 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Olga von Türk-Rohn, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Olga von Türk-Rohn (pictured) was celebrated for her interpretations of Franz Schubert's lieder? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Olga von Türk-Rohn. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Olga von Türk-Rohn), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Redding

On 7 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joseph Redding, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that opera composer and librettist Joseph Redding (pictured) was also a chess polymath and lawyer who won a landmark decision before the United States Supreme Court? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph Redding. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Joseph Redding), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for this article! Unique SCOTUS cases are always fascinating to me, and to find someone involved in both music and SCOTUS cases? How very specific but very impressive! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for the article about a man with many talents! - On the bicentenary of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and in my concerts (leading to the two at the church's article). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Today is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps watch a bit how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Magdalena Hinterdobler is on the Main page today, together with the opera that you thought was not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. The conductor said that in that interview that it was the first unabridged version ever. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Doom (2016 video game) - today's TFA is again by Vami --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. Both - DYK and OTD - were hard work, I confess. In the end I like the hook with five composers the Nazis banned even better than the one you found boring. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Lester Allen

On 10 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lester Allen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Broadway and film star Lester Allen began his career as a child acrobat in the Barnum and Bailey Circus? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lester Allen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lester Allen), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Frank Croxton

On 13 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Frank Croxton, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that singer Frank Croxton performed a duet with his father for the unveiling of a monument to a Confederate States Army general? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Frank Croxton. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Frank Croxton), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Agnes Kimball

On 14 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Agnes Kimball, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although Agnes Kimball was a popular recording artist of opera and musical theatre, she never appeared as a singing actress on the stage? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Agnes Kimball. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Agnes Kimball), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

New message from Narutolovehinata5

Hello, 4meter4. You have new messages at Template:Did you know nominations/Daniela Kerck.
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Category:Works set in abandoned buildings and structures has been nominated for renaming

Category:Works set in abandoned buildings and structures has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For taking on tough tasks at DYK. I noticed your reasoned comments in discussions; I also applaud your contributions relating to governance. Bruxton (talk) 15:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Lyceum Theatre (Boston)

On 3 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lyceum Theatre (Boston), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Boston's World's Museum was a theatre, an aquarium, a menagerie, and a freak show? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lyceum Theatre (Boston). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lyceum Theatre (Boston)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Richmond Theatre (Richmond, Virginia)

On 7 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Richmond Theatre (Richmond, Virginia), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that three of the four Richmond Theatres were destroyed by fire, of which the 1811 fire was described as "early America's first great disaster"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Richmond Theatre (Richmond, Virginia). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Richmond Theatre (Richmond, Virginia)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for the article, and I'm sorry we didn't get it pictured (in a different set, - today's image is strong and I would not have wanted to miss that either). - Please return to the Kerck nom, about primary source vs. promotional source. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

The article Cecelia Hall (mezzo-soprano) that you expanded and referenced is now a good article; see Talk:Cecelia Hall (mezzo-soprano) for comments about the article, and Talk:Cecelia Hall (mezzo-soprano)/GA1 for the nomination. Thank you for your share, you deserve credit more than I do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your share in Daniela Kerck! The image in my story is what I happened to see from my seat (in a performance before the festival - with Anna Netrebko in the title role but sold out of course - and the other was possibly the icier Principessa anyway). I recommend the trailer video. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Richmond Theatre (Richmond, Virginia) and Richmond Theatre fire

Yesterday I was trying to tease out some dates & referencing in these 2 articles and see that you extensively edited them both, like this edit from May 1, 2024. I am puzzled as to the sources you cited when I cannot find them listed in the references section, for instance, your edit added the following but:

Quesnay's Academy opened on October 10, 1876 in a performance given by the Old American Company of Comedians under the management of Hallam and Henry. Sources vary as to which work was performed on this date, with some sources claiming it was the opera Poor Soldier and one source the play School for Scandal.

Keller does not state the info about Hallam and Henry ("under the management...") or give the October date on page 229, both the authors Sonneck and Hornblow are not listed in the References, Stoutamire is the one who gives the date on page 70 (as seen at the main Richmond Theatre article.
There were some oddities in the dates in the Theatre fire article, looks like a year was transposed from October 10, 1786 to October 10 1886 and in the interim Bosco9691 has fixed those typos.
However, as I said above, Keller does not give the date, Sonneck & Hornblow are not listed out as citations in the Fire article's references section & Stoutamire is the source with the October date. In the fire article, regarding the October 10th date, I am going to substitute the complete Stoutamire cite for the Keller cite since Keller does not have the date and Stoutamire does. I've adjusted a few other things in the Fire article.
I am having trouble finding online access to your Poet ref:
<ref name="Poet">{{cite journal|title=Poet, Patriot and Pedagogue|first= John G.|last= Roberts|journal=Arts in Virginia|date= Winter 1966}}</ref>
so I can verify its information. The "Arts in Virginia" journal has completely eluded me, I have been unable to find that named journal or magazine anywhere online, so I was wondering if it by any chance it could go by other name/s? I've hidden that ref for the time being within the Fire article, so if you do have more information you can add it and then get the ref "out of hiding". Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 18:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

References

@Shearonink Thank you for looking over my contributions. Honestly I read so many sources it is difficult for me to recall which sources contained what information from memory at this point. I've read much else since. I'd have to go back and relook at the sources if you have specific questions. I will go back and find the Sonneck and Hornblow source information and add the refs. I'll double check for accuracy on that section. Arts in Virginia is the journal of the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts published from 1960-1993. You can access The Poet, Patriot, and Pedagogue journal article in the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts archives (not sure if its available on their website or just at their on-site library. They have five physical copies, but I don't believe it has been digitized). The journal is also physically available in some university and public libraries in the state of Virginia. I looked at the journal offline. 4meter4 (talk) 19:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Here is Sonneck

• [https://www.google.com/books/edition/History_of_the_American_Theatre_During_t/plZAAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Henry+and+Hallam+Poor+Soldier+Alexander+Richmond+Theatre&pg=PA205&printsec=frontcover

I went into the Theatre article & fixed/adjusted some of the referencing. Thanks for your help. The Poet ref/refs could maybe have the publisher (VA Museum) and a Note on where copies can possibly be found, to save anyone trying to find online/archival versions. I was unable to find even library listings of where the journal is held... Shearonink (talk) 15:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Carrie Swain

On 9 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Carrie Swain, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Carrie Swain was possibly the first woman entertainer to perform in blackface? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carrie Swain. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Carrie Swain), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK for George Kunkel (actor)

On 16 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article George Kunkel (actor), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that George Kunkel (pictured) portrayed a mountaineer in The Chalice of Courage (1915), the first film to depict assisted suicide? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George Kunkel (actor). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, George Kunkel (actor)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK for The Chalice of Courage

On 16 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Chalice of Courage, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that George Kunkel (pictured) portrayed a mountaineer in The Chalice of Courage (1915), the first film to depict assisted suicide? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George Kunkel (actor). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Chalice of Courage), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Max Weil

On 1 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Max Weil, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Max Weil, founder of the Halifax Symphony Orchestra, spent his later years in real estate? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Max Weil. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Max Weil), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Edward M. Zimmerman

On 3 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Edward M. Zimmerman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that husband and wife Edward M. and Marie Zimmerman co-wrote the suffragist anthem "Votes for Women: Suffrage Rallying Song"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edward M. Zimmerman. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Edward M. Zimmerman), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Marie Kunkel Zimmerman

On 3 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Marie Kunkel Zimmerman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that husband and wife Edward M. and Marie Zimmerman co-wrote the suffragist anthem "Votes for Women: Suffrage Rallying Song"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edward M. Zimmerman. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Marie Kunkel Zimmerman), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

DYK for George Kunkel (theatre manager)

On 4 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article George Kunkel (theatre manager), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that actor George Kunkel (pictured) portrayed in blackface the character of Uncle Tom, using it at first to promote slavery during the American Civil War but later to attack it, after his views had changed? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George Kunkel (theatre manager). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, George Kunkel (theatre manager)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Scott Jarvis (actor)

On 7 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Scott Jarvis (actor), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Scott Jarvis (actor). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Scott Jarvis (actor)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Sorry 4meter4, this got sent to you early. In order to make room for a special occasion hook, this hook got bumped to Prep 3, but the coding to give you credit was still in queue 4. This hook is scheduled to run on Aug. 16. Sorry again for the confusion. Z1720 (talk) 14:07, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Verna Osborne

On 13 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Verna Osborne, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that voice teacher Verna Osborne retired at the age of 101? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Verna Osborne. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Verna Osborne), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for another good one! - I took the pic a year ago (OTD), and a Bach cantata was first performed 300 years ago OTD, on the same Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Ultraphon: I began translation, the last paragraph is missing, next steps would be to provide ill links and improve referencing. Please check the English. I need a break now, RL, but though I better publish now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Baltimore Museum and Gallery of Fine Arts

On 14 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Baltimore Museum and Gallery of Fine Arts, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that one of the items on display at the Baltimore Museum and Gallery of Fine Arts was George Washington's shaving brush? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Baltimore Museum and Gallery of Fine Arts. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Baltimore Museum and Gallery of Fine Arts), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:03, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Joan Ruth

On 16 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joan Ruth, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Joan Ruth rejected a marriage proposal because her suitor wanted her to abandon ambitions of a singing career? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joan Ruth. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Joan Ruth), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Scott Jarvis (actor)

On 20 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Scott Jarvis (actor), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that actor Scott Jarvis was angered when White House officials under Richard Nixon requested that portions of his role in the musical 1776 be cut due to its anti-war theme? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Scott Jarvis (actor). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Scott Jarvis (actor)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:03, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Terrific little article on a subject fascinating to a theater major like me. Thanks, 4meter4. BusterD (talk) 01:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Grace Panvini

On 31 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Grace Panvini, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Grace Panvini stood 4 ft 11.75 in (151.8 cm) tall – a height described by one reviewer as an asset for appearing youthful on stage? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Grace Panvini. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Grace Panvini), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Alfredo Gandolfi

On 5 September 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alfredo Gandolfi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that cinematographer Alfredo Gandolfi also had a career as a singer that included more than 300 performances at the Metropolitan Opera? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alfredo Gandolfi. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Alfredo Gandolfi), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Henri Hamal

If you would like to expand your recent stub article Henri Hamal, please feel free to make use of my incomplete research in User:Narky Blert/sandbox 3, which includes a rough translation of the Dutch article. In my state of health, I'll not be returning to it. Just mention me in the WP:ES per WP:COPYWITHIN. Best, Narky Blert (talk) 17:17, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Nice work and note

Hey there 4meter4, hope you're keeping well. I've seen your recent efforts with filling in the Wikipedia:Music encyclopedia topics—nice job! I've decided to take a crack at it myself, starting at the last pages (the Zs!). All I've done so far is expand Zygmunt Szweykowski (musicologist), but I expect to get to others shortly. Best – Aza24 (talk) 21:08, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

@Aza24 Awesome. I'm mostly just going through and double checking the blue links. Sometimes its blue because a non-music person/topic with the same name has had an article created. In such cases I will knock off a quick article for disambiguation purposes. Other times, it is the person or topic we want. In such cases, I remove the topic from the music encyclopedia list if it is a start rated article or better. If it is a stub, I make a note and leave it. Any help you are willing to give is appreciated. I find, that the encyclopedia list gets tedious after a point, so I tend to do a check in on a couple pages maybe once or twice a year before moving on to something else.4meter4 (talk) 21:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Gotcha, I figured you were aiming for something like that. Ironically I found myself having to do that Szweykowski, and his father of the same name (plus the list had a redlink for him, but was just missing a redirect since we already had an article). I expect the tediousness will arrive!—but may as well chip away while I have the motivation. Aza24 (talk) 21:28, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Aza24 That often happens. I've had a few cases where it required writing three or more articles because of multiple people with overlapping names. Then of course there is finding articles in horribly bad shape or with factual errors, and taking time to do cleanup, sourcing, etc.4meter4 (talk) 21:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Kirchhoff

On 13 September 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Walter Kirchhoff, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that operatic tenor Walter Kirchhoff (pictured) was also an officer in the cavalry division of the Imperial German Army? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Walter Kirchhoff. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Walter Kirchhoff), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Christopher Columbus (Zador)

On 15 September 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Christopher Columbus (Zador), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the opera Christopher Columbus was written by its Jewish composer while fleeing persecution from Nazi Germany by sailing across the Atlantic? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Christopher Columbus (Zador). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Christopher Columbus (Zador)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

AfD script

Wow - a hand-coded AfD! I'm impressed and also extremely apologetic that no one has ever referred you to WP:TWINKLE before. This gadget is useful for all kinds of things, among them, one-step AfD notifications. -- asilvering (talk) 03:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@Asilvering Thanks. I've been editing wikipedia long before Twinkle came around. Old habits die hard.4meter4 (talk) 03:09, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Summer camps in film has been nominated for merging

Category:Summer camps in film has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Video games set in summer camps has been nominated for merging

Category:Video games set in summer camps has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:00, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Winfield Blake

On 8 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Winfield Blake, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after a career as an opera singer and Broadway musical star, Winfield Blake (pictured) became a comedian in vaudeville as one half of the comic duo Blake and Amber? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Winfield Blake. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Winfield Blake), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:02, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for another detailed bio! - I have Rohan de Saram on the same page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

My story today is about a composer and choir conductor, listen to his Lamento. - My story on 13 October was about a Bach cantata. As this place works, it's on the Main page now because of the date (but Bach wrote it for the 20th Sunday, not the Tuesday after the 21st Sunday after Trinity). I sort of like it because today is the birth date of my grandfather who loved and grew dahlias like those pictured. I'll turn to the Japanese soprano after a round of loving memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Did you listen to that Lamento? ... to the soprano? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Gonzalo Brenes

On 14 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gonzalo Brenes, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that composer Gonzalo Brenes was a politician in the National Assembly of Panama and served for seven years as Panama's secretary of culture? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gonzalo Brenes. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Gonzalo Brenes), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

^Complex/_Rational 00:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Forest Theater and Golden Bough Playhouse

Can you add any of your research to these two articles, also? They are still considering nominating them for AfD and/or merging them into PacRep, which seems like a bad idea to me. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Note this. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Ssilvers Oh my. Clearly not an editor familiar with the content area. That would be an easily dismantled argument by pointing to the "specialized encyclopedia" criteria of WP:5P1 (which trumps WP:NOT as part of the WP:Five pillars). Specialized performing arts encyclopedias like Grove Music Online, the Deutsches Theater-Lexikon, The Oxford Encyclopedia of Theatre and Performance, etc. routinely list productions. Wikipedia should model its encyclopedia entries off of published subject matter specific encyclopedias by major academic publishers per our foundational pillars. Those all include production lists.4meter4 (talk) 05:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't think we should put back in the comprehensive list, but I think we should mention notable productions, especially if we can find a review. And we should point out the focus on local playwrights. I have given the Forest Theater article a proofread and have tried to find a middle ground between the deletionists and the inclusionists, but some good refs will help a lot in adding back discussion of the most important productions. -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:02, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree. Encyclopedias generally don't list every production either unless it's a very specific reference work (and there are a number of those; particularly for Broadway and the West End).4meter4 (talk) 06:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Please do not allow others to deter you

I think you have been considering and were about to do a good thing. I understand that a discussion has caused you stress. Might I suggest you step away from the discussion, but do not step away from the task? 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:57, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree. You did a lot of good work at the article, and I think that, with patience, we will persuade people of the importance of this content. User:Timtrent, it would be extremely helpful if you would go to the articles and express your opinion so that we can continue to work on the articles (Pacific Repertory Theatre, Forest Theater and Golden Bough Playhouse), so that they can see that it is not just me and 4meter4 opposing the deletions. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:31, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Timtrent and Ssilvers Thanks for the kind encouragement but I will have to decline. I’ve already had two editors ask me (and others) to not edit the articles or add new sources, one editor accuse me of. being a coi editor, and one editor make a threat of my being blocked if edits are made.

It’s difficult to work on a page(s) where there is clearly a vendetta to prevent article improvements, and a targeted campaign to delete/shame a series of articles by labeling them a non-notable wall garden created or heavily edited by a coi editor. Anybody not sharing that vision immediately becomes a target of harassment, and anyone adding quality independent sources becomes a target for bullying who gets accused of promoting the articles or having some sort of nefarious agenda or being grossly incompetent.

My experience on Wikipedia has taught me that drama tends to create an atmosphere of suspicion where any new editing gets unfairly viewed in a negative light even when it is clearly good intentioned. I’m just not up to working in that atmosphere. It’s unfortunate that coi editing has created a situation where certain articles are being viewed through a particular lens which may lead to an over-reaction in content and editorial decision making that ultimately does not benefit the articles in question.

Ideally cooler heads would prevail, and we could simply add better sourcing and remove problematic content without over trimming material that in any other circumstance would be routinely non-controversial. I just don’t have a thick enough skin to deal with the pushback and maintain my own well being. Not to mention fighting the temptation to fight back and be unkind in return is not something I want to put myself through. I am not a saint. I have so many article topics on my to do list, I will be happier working elsewhere.4meter4 (talk) 19:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I respect your decision. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Ssilvers Feel free to refer to this conversation. It is somewhat of a double edged sword. Greg Henderson' community ban was after a protracted period, years, when he worked to create a plausible set of articles on non notable topics, and many need to go. However, some of his work was good, and that needs to be kept. Probably the good work needs editing for tone.

The challenge faced by editors wishing to find the plausible articles on non notable topics is that he did it very well. So some 'feel' notable when they are not.

The best judge is the community as a whole, not you, not 4meter4, certainly not me, and not others referred to but not named. Each of us will have opinions which we believe very strongly to be valid on this. We need to remain open to other opinions, potentially modifying our own.

To summarise, not all of Henderson's output was below standard; a great deal was way below standard; some was acceptable, but in need of editing.

Everyone should go to work with a will, including people we may disagree with. Because the area of Henderson's work has been found to be charged wth controversy everyone must work to the highest standards, criticising their own and others' work against the yardstick of policy. The work should include deletion processes and edits to verify notability

Know that I oppose unfairness in all forms, bullying especially. Provable instances of bullying should go to WP:ANI. BUT making such a report requires clean hands in the matter. WP:BOOMERANG is a real and wise thing. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Opera Christopher Columbus at Radio City Music Hall

Hi, in the Radio City Music Hall article, you added that the world premier of Zador's opera Christopher Columbus was moved from the Music Hall to Center Theater due to strong ticket sales. This doesn't seem to make sense as written, as the seating capacity of the Music Hall (5,960) is much greater than was that of Center Theater (3,500). I don't have access to the source you cited. Could you recheck your source? Thank you. Joelkfla (talk) 23:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@Joelkfla It states this in the liner notes of the opera recording by the National Symphony Orchestra. You can read it for free here: https://archive.org/details/cd_christopher-columbus-studies-for-orchestr_eugene-zador-westfalisches-sinfonieorchest/page/n3/mode/1up?q=%22Josefa+Chekova%22 If its a mistake, then the mistake was made the writer of the liner notes. Best.4meter4 (talk) 04:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I see it says that it was moved "to the larger Center Theatre," which is simply incorrect. The NY Times archive confirms that it was performed at the Center Theatre, but does not mention it being moved. I assume the liner notes author, or someone to whom he spoke, simply made a bad assumption, as the Center Theatre definitely was not larger than the Music Hall. Joelkfla (talk) 06:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Losjuglares

Hello, you can open the query to delete this article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Juglares_del_Dexas. since the article fails on WP:GNG --190.219.102.114 (talk) 15:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

The article has nothing relevant or notable, the references do not speak significantly about the topic, nor does it have understandable coverage of what it is trying to explain, one of those references is about the sale of a book. 190.219.102.114 (talk) 15:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't agree with that assessment.4meter4 (talk) 15:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

I Think the Article was deleted based on emotion and Sentiment

Hello @4meter4 would you review the deleted article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kefas Brand (2nd nomination) for I think it is possible it was deleted based off emotion and little research about the topic. Thank you Idrisskunle (talk) 16:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Question

I understand the ongoing AfD discussions are still open, so I'd figure I'd ask this to someone with some more music topic-area familiarity than me. I've been delving through some of the Starkid musicals recently to determine their notability, since many lack a lot of coverage at a glance. I've been looking at The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals, though I'm still looking into if I can dig up any reviews for it. There's an awards section, but it's entirely from one website. What's the general consensus on something like this? Is this website, or websites similar to it, usually considered reliable for music related topics? How much notability do they confer with their awards? I want to double check this before I make any final assessment about the page notability-wise. Admittedly this has a bit of overlap with Wikipedia:WikiProject Theatre, but I figured I'd check with you first given I'm not sure whether something like this falls under music guidelines, Theatre guidelines, or some mix of both. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 05:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

@Pokelego999 I'd suggest leaving a message at WP:WikiProject Musical Theatre and ask for input. Best.4meter4 (talk) 05:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

@4meter4 ah, thank you. I had entirely forgotten about Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Theatre's existence. I've left a comment with them and I'll see if I can get some help with that. I'd prefer to try improving that article first than nominating it for deletion straight away, so the help is greatly appreciated all the same.

As an aside, thank you for being patient with me thus far at the AfD. I'm still a bit new to the NMUSIC guidelines, so forgive me if I end up saying something by accident that comes across as completely ludicrous. I'm mostly working with my prior experience with notability plus what is literally being said in these guidelines, so I'm not in the loop if there's some usual standards in the music WikiProjects not outright stated in the guidelines, or if there's other guidelines beyond the ones listed at NMUSIC, that I am unaware of. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 06:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Pokelego999 No problem. :-) Hope to see you around more. Best.4meter4 (talk) 06:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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	Thank you for your consistently helpful work at AfD, 4meter4; it is appreciated. Feel free to exchange for the beverage of your choice! Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Show Boat

What do you think of this image? It is PD now. If you like it, would you kindly add it to the article? More 1927 images are on this page. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:35, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

@Ssilvers I love these images, but I am pondering whether they are in fact PD. If they were published somewhere before 1929 then they are, but if they were not published the photographer would still have the rights plus 70 years after their death. If the photographer is not known and the work was unpublished they would be still copyrighted until they are 100 years old.

So... basically it comes down to these questions: 1. do we know whether these were published? If so where and when? If published before 1929 we can upload them. 2. If not, who was the photographer and when did they die? If 70 or more years ago we can upload them 3. If none of this is known we have to wait until we can use the pd-old template on commons which won't be until 2027 (or later because some of these are clearly later such as the 1929 film related images). Best.4meter4 (talk)

I appears to have been published in the Playbill, as it is also published on the Playbill website, here. So, I think it's clear enough that it was published in 1927. To be 100% sure, I guess one would have to go to a library that keeps old playbills, unless we can find it on ebay or somewhere. I don't think we should put film images next to the core info about the musical. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

I'll see what I can dig up on the images. I am fine with where you moved the film image. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Of course, even if you are not comfortable uploading them as PD yet, they will become PD on January 1, 2028, after they turn 100. But I bet you will find that they were published in 1927. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

This from NYPL says the photo was taken by White Studio (New York, NY.) See also this and this. Compare with the Playbill site. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:24, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

@Ssilvers Thanks for that. Funnily enough, look what just popped up at AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gaylord Ravenal.4meter4 (talk) 04:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Bullies

So sorry you were bullied off the pages having to do with Carmel's historic theatres. You were doing good work. Sorry to see the bullies win. ~smatprt Smatprt (talk) 15:14, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of key information on Shakir Pichler wiki entry

Hi, many thanks for helping to clean up the Shakir Pichler page (sincerely appreciate your time) - however, I feel the removal of all the Bands, and releases plus the removal of all the feature films completely detracts the point of providing the most important information about him. Originally each film had a link to each films (official) IMDB link which credits him.. I was then told imdb is deemed unreliable (but there are exceptions) - The bands and album releases were linked to multiple external music catalogue sites or record label sites. Unfortunately I'm not a web designer like Shakir is and he won't touch the wiki page so I really need some help getting those 2 category lists back with links that wiki editors will accept. Just calling out in case you could possibly help in this respect. Im sure you are busy but wiping out all of that makes the page pretty much 'nothing'. Happy to remove all the extraneous text info on him though hand just list the achievements as I feel they really need to be there. Some schools have literally used his page for information on the arts but now there is nothing there. Thanks in advance for any help on this. :) Christine <3 Sexbeatrecords (talk) 22:56, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

TY!

TY for the Lyncoya upload. Appreciate it. jengod (talk) 18:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

@Jengod You are welcome. You might consider adding the cropped version of the photo to the article. Best.4meter4 (talk) 18:45, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Radio City Music Hall of the Air

On 29 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Radio City Music Hall of the Air, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the radio program Radio City Music Hall of the Air employed approximately 10,000 musicians during the first eight years of its broadcast history? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Radio City Music Hall of the Air. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Radio City Music Hall of the Air), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ettore Verna

Hello! Your submission of Ettore Verna at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:07, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Gaylord Ravenal

The article survived the AfD. Would you kindly add the sources you found to the Gaylord Ravenal article? Also, in the article, would you please note the most important plot differences from the musical's script that affect Gaylord's character in the 3 film versions? They are not mentioned at all. For example, in the 1951 film, a much shorter period of time has gone by at the end when Ravenal returns to Magnolia and his young daughter. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:25, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Please restore (but move) Shakir Pichler's Discography and Filmography?

Hi @4meter4. Hope you are well. I don't think stubifying Shakir's wiki page has helped the case. I feel it's been more detrimental.  Would there be a way you could restore/reverse the data you removed but put it in drop/down sections similar to the 'further reading' section away from the 'bio' section where I think if I understand correctly, it is frowned upon, and links are under more scrutiny there? So "Discography" or "Music Releases". And "Filmography" which would include each films separate official imdb entry and wiki entry if available as inline links and you could then remove Shakir's personal IMDB page which is the one that seems as a rule 'easily faked' but the official ones are great regardless of wiki reference score regarding imdb in general, I feel they would easily adhere to the 'imdb sometimes has exceptions to the rule' which is stated in wiki references page due to the professional nature of the production companies and productions themselves.

Same with the music and video releases. The music videos are easily searchable on multiple sites as are the releases but obviously I don't want them to be linked anywhere to 'where to buy' (that is if any titles actually even available these days.. I've seen a few on European boutique stores and ebay but need to be careful as I do not want to be advertising any type of business or sale. I could do this but I'd really rather not deal with some of the aggression every time I try to fix something myself. I think the page will make more sense and people will see that it's not just a name stub but a huge career (2 careers) with massive contributions to Western Australia which is important to not lose. Thanks in advance. 157.211.98.194 (talk) 10:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

"X." listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect X. has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 4 § X. until a consensus is reached. GilaMonster536 (talk) 01:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

@GilaMonster536 Not sure why you notified me. I never edited at this page.4meter4 (talk) 01:04, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

I was just trying to ask people I thought might give their opinion. GilaMonster536 (talk) 02:56, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

@GilaMonster536 Just a friendly warning. You need to be careful when leaving messages on people's talk pages about a deletion discussion. We have rules about who can be notified at WP:APPNOTE. I don't meet any of the criteria listed there as I am not an involved editor, nor do I have any expertise. WP:INAPPNOTE states that notifying "users with no significant connection to the topic at hand" is spamming which is a forbidden behavior on wikipedia. It can get you blocked if you do it repeatedly. If you want people to participate, I suggest leaving a neutral message at a talk page or noticeboard of one or more WikiProjects that might be connected to the topic. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shalom Nagar

Not a huge deal, but {{AFD top}} should be placed above the header. Otherwise it can cause weird errors on the daily AFD log. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 23:25, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Undefined sfn reference on Clay M. Greene

Hi, in this edit to Clay M. Greene you used {{sfn|Sherwood|Chapman|1955|page=85}} as a reference. Unfortunately no work "Sherwood & Chapman 1955" is listed, so the reference cannot be looked up by anybody, and the article is placed in Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors. If you could supply the missing source it would be appreciated. DuncanHill (talk) 19:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

	Happy holidays!
	Wishing you a Merry Christmas filled with love and joy, a Happy Holiday season surrounded by warmth and laughter, and a New Year brimming with hope, happiness, and success! 🎄🎉✨ Baqi:) (talk) 11:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Greetings of the season

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Hello 4meter4: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Spread the love; use {{subst:User:Dustfreeworld/Xmas3}} to send this message.

--Dustfreeworld (talk) 11:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas from London ...

and may the New Year be a safe one, filled with peace and plenty.

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 10:04, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

December music

story · music · places

Thank you for your note! My second Christmas story is about a cantata, 300 years old, and the song on which it is based, 500 years old, and the hymn on wich that is based, 1,500 years old. One of the movements was inspired by a baby leaping in his mother's womb. Enjoy the season! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:05, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Ettore Verna

On 3 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ettore Verna, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that baritone Ettore Verna twice "sang himself out of his pants" during a performance at the Boston Opera House, according to Billboard? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ettore Verna. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ettore Verna), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 12:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Anthony E. Wills

On 4 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Anthony E. Wills, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that films were made of plays written by Anthony E. Wills after his death at a relatively young age? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anthony E. Wills. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Anthony E. Wills), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

– 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 12:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Fenner (sea captain)

On 4 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Fenner (sea captain), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Thomas Fenner captained an English warship against the Spanish Armada? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Fenner (sea captain). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Thomas Fenner (sea captain)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

– 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 12:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Ganzl

Hi. You added a ref to Ganzl's 2001 encyclopedia in The Gondoliers, but you didn't then specify which of the Ganzl refs in the article were to his 1986 book, and which are to the 2001 book. If they are all to the 1986 book, then the 2001 book should go under a "Further reading" heading rather than "References". Would you please fix this? -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:28, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Ssilvers. Done. I found an unattributed quote in our article to Ganzl 2001. Additionally, several of the citations had footnotes mixed in which lack referencing. I sorted them and placed citation needed tags. Additionally, there is a quote cited to "Stedman" but no source gives an author with that last name. I left a note on the article talk page. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Just in case you did not see, I have requested that, per WP:CITEVAR you do not change the formatting of the G&S project-bannered articles to sfn. The project uses a manual citation style (except for the long book cites). -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Loretta Di Franco

On 5 January 2025, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Loretta Di Franco, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Masem (t) 13:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

— Masem (t) 13:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of William A. Raidy for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article William A. Raidy is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William A. Raidy until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Anonymous 23:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Category:Works set on the Moon has been nominated for merging

Category:Works set on the Moon has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I also nom'ed the Mars category I just created few days ago. See Wikipedia_talk:Categories_for_discussion#Works/Fiction_by_setting_(space) for broader consideration. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Home and Beauty

On 6 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Home and Beauty, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Home and Beauty has been described as both a "little masterpiece of polite merriment" and a "misogynist comedy dipped in vitriol"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Home and Beauty. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Home and Beauty), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for this, in collaboration, for moving the Welsh composer to article space, for the foundation of the operetta ...! - Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. - Did you see Masilo talking and dancing? - The operetta is planned for next week. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

... and today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:16, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Today, between many who just died, Tobias Kratzer on his 45th birthday who was good for an unusual DYK mentioning a Verdi opera in 2018, - you can see his work in the trailer of another one that I saw, and my talk page has a third (but by a different director). 2025 pics, finally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas P. Fenner

On 7 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thomas P. Fenner, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the first women's dormitory built at Hampton University was partially paid for with money collected by the school's choir in tours led by Thomas P. Fenner? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas P. Fenner. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Thomas P. Fenner), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 12:03, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Mark Smith (actor, born 1887)

On 8 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mark Smith (actor, born 1887), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mark Smith was a fourth-generation actor who performed in 70 theaters in New York City and on more than 2,000 radio programs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mark Smith (actor, born 1887). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mark Smith (actor, born 1887)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 12:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Jane Stuart Smith

On 9 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jane Stuart Smith, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after becoming a born again Christian, soprano Jane Stuart Smith abandoned a successful opera career to pursue a life of service? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jane Stuart Smith. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Jane Stuart Smith), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Clay M. Greene

On 10 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Clay M. Greene, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that playwright Clay M. Greene (pictured) claimed he was "the first American white child born in San Francisco"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Clay M. Greene. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Clay M. Greene), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 12:02, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Trout

If you were Gen Z, I could almost understand your nomination of Abner Louima, but that's impossible. The fact that we're even debating this issue is potentially embarrassing to the Foundation. I'm officially slapping you with a trout. Happiest new year. Bearian (talk) 06:12, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Bearian Ha ha. I probably should have taken it to move requests instead which would have been the better process with this particular subject/issue. Happy new year to you as well.4meter4 (talk) 06:18, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

FYI I was in middle school when this event happened so… not the kind of thing on my radar. Never heard of him until this week.4meter4 (talk) 06:21, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Sources for Brooklyn notables

This version of the List of people from Brooklyn had about 600 notables and 140 sources or just under 25% of the entries. The current version, since you started adding entries, has 665 more notables, but only about a dozen sources have been added or less than 2% of the additions. If you know the people are from Brooklyn, why not add the source with each and every entry to make the information verifiable? Alansohn (talk) 14:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Alansohn On my to do list. I’m currently going through Category:People from Brooklyn and adding them to the page if they are missing. Once I gather all the people I am going to work on fact checking and sourcing the list one by one. That includes sourcing the people I did not add. Just give me time to work through my process in the way that organizationally works for me.4meter4 (talk) 14:17, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough. When entries are added one-by-one I'm often happy to add the sources myself, but that's hard to do with hundreds of additions. As long as you're on it, I'll be more patient. Alansohn (talk) 14:56, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

You may be interested

In Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_January_9#Category:Works, given our recent discussion on related topics. Feel free to disagree with me, of course. Seems like I am a lonely voice there again. (But at the very least, why nobody wants to standardize the naming of creative works and works...? It's confusing...). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Category:Historians from Brooklyn has been nominated for renaming

Category:Historians from Brooklyn has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Bearcat (talk) 16:12, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

The city-level category must exist first, with borough-level categories coming second. Even if you've got a "months-long" project under way, you still have to organize that project in the correct order. (Also, you can't leave a redlinked city-level category sitting there as an uncreated parent of the borough-level category either, because if a redlinked category hits Special:WantedCategories I have to make it go away.) Bearcat (talk) 16:24, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Bearcat That's WP:POINTY Bearcat and you know it. You could have easily lent a hand and built up the category structure yourself rather than interrupt a productive encyclopedia project with an end outcome that is leading to that. You could have created that parent cat yourself and helped populate it rather than taking it to CFD. We have hundreds of articles on historians from NYC and already have a cat structure by occupation per bureau.4meter4 (talk) 16:29, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

The current run of Special:WantedCategories had 216 redlinks on it — meaning I don't have the time to wander around Wikipedia figuring out whether each individual redlink is creatable or not and where it would belong in the category tree and what else would belong in it and all of that. If I spend five minutes on each category, thus getting through the list at a rate of just 12 categories per hour, then it would take me 18 hours to clean up the entire list, and if I spend ten minutes on each category, thus getting through the list at a rate of just six categories per hour, then it would take me 36 hours to clean up the entire list. But that's an excessive time burden that other people are not entitled to put on my plate.
Because I have hundreds of redlinked categories to clean up each time the redlinked category report runs, I'd have to make it my permanent full-time job to just clean up redlinked categories, leaving me with no time left to do anything else, if I had to spend five or ten minutes on each redlink instead of five or ten seconds. So if you want a category to exist, then it's your job to create that category yourself, not my job to volunteer to create it for you — because if you get to demand that of me, then so does everybody else, and then I'm spending 36 hours on that job when it's not my responsibility to spend 36 hours on that job. Bearcat (talk) 16:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Bearcat Wikipedia is WP:NOTCOMPULSORY. Nobody is demanding you do anything. But you should ask other editors what their plan is before going to CFD if they are in the middle of creating and populating categories. Undoing other people's work in the middle of construction is not kind. Supporting them and giving them time to complete their work is. That's WP:AGF. Being a good team player is really all that is required. If you had talked to me about it first you probably wouldn't have charged into a CFD. When problems are solvable through editing going the deletion route is often frowned upon, and when its a cat populating issue (and people are actively working on populating) we generally don't like to see those come up at CFD. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Taking the time to ask the creator of a redlinked category if they have "plans" or not is also a thing that if I do for you, then I have to do it for everybody else too, thus requiring me to invest five to ten minutes into each individual redlink and turning it into an 18 to 36 hour job. So, again, that's not a thing that I have a responsibility to do, and not a thing that makes me "uncollaborative" for not taking extra time to do.
You say that nobody is demanding I do anything, and yet you're literally demanding right now that I take extra steps that would turn redlinked category cleanup into a 36 hour job? Bearcat (talk) 17:08, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Bearcat No. I'm asking you to do the bare minimum of what's required when working in a community to get along well with others. I would think supporting people in their work would be part of that.4meter4 (talk) 17:14, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

No, you're asking me to do things that would turn cleaning up redlinked categories it into an 18 to 36 hour job.
Sure, from your perspective where you only saw the one redlinked category that crossed your plate, it doesn't seem like that big of a burden to demand that I either create the category for you or take time to ask if you have "plans" or not — but as a person who has to deal with a cleanup report loaded with 216 redlinked categories, if I take those steps for you then I also have to take those same steps for every other one of those 216 redlinks. Which means I have to invest 18 to 36 hours into the job, because I can only get through between six and twelve redlinks per hour if I spend five to ten minutes putting extended research or solitication into each individual redlink.
So no, it isn't my responsibility to go around creating all the redlinks, it isn't my responsibility to go around asking the creator of each individual redlink whether it was an accident or a "plan", and it isn't my responsibility to take any accusations that not volunteering to spend 18 to 36 hours on redlinked category cleanup makes me "uncollaborative" in any way. Bearcat (talk) 17:29, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

We'll just have to agree to disagree. It's not how I would choose to interact with other people when they are in the middle of a project that is improving the encyclopedia.4meter4 (talk) 17:32, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you and never mind

Thanks again for your honesty. Bearian (talk) 16:40, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jiří Gemrot

The article Jiří Gemrot has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Theroadislong (talk) 15:11, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Arthur Swanstrom

On 22 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Arthur Swanstrom, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Arthur Swanstrom co-wrote the lyrics to "the first Off-Broadway musical to gain wide recognition in New York"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Arthur Swanstrom. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Arthur Swanstrom), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Who's even more important than Clifford Grey?

And the answer is... Adrian Ross! Check him out. He was instrumental in the development of Edwardian musical comedy (and the revival of operetta before WWI), whereas Grey was a contributor to the genre at the end of its life-cycle. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Ssilvers Thanks for the reading suggestion. I'm not familiar with Ross.4meter4 (talk) 14:08, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Robin Hood

Ganzl is clear that the London production opened *before* the original production came to Broadway, and that is when the song (and several others) were interpolated or added. Hayden Coffin played Robin in London and sang the song in Act III. After the B'way production opened, the song was, of course, assigned to Alan-a-Dale in Act II. But I am guessing that the later scores and productions restore it to the wedding scene in Act III. -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:18, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Ssilvers I agree with that assessment. Best.4meter4 (talk) 06:22, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Theatre vs. theater

Can you provide sources for your position that the artform is spelled 'theatre' in both American and British English? I can't find anything to that effect. For example, not sure how authoritative it is but this site says "Both spellings mean the same thing: a building, area, or structure used to stage a play or film, or the production itself presented within." If anything, I would think it would be the opposite of what you said, given how many venues use the "Theatre" spelling in their names. –CWenger (^ • @) 04:58, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

@CWenger When I studied theatre in college (I'm American and studied in the United States) this was the distinction used in our text book, and the one that was taught by faculty. The Art Times Journal acknowledges this, although one can not claim that its "standard" as the spelling of theater/theatre has always been inconsistent/interchangeable. All I can say is that today most professional theatre people in America use the spelling theatre to refer to the artform and the spelling theater to refer to a physical structure. All the major theatre arts organizations use the spelling theatre, for example, the American Theatre Wing uses "theatre" as its spelling, and so does American Theatre magazine. Theatre is the standard spelling used in journals in the United States to refer to the art form (such as Theatre Journal). Generally one only sees the "theater" spelling in the context of buildings in academic writing in the performing arts. However, there will always be exceptions/outliers because the spelling has never been consistent in the United States. Best.4meter4 (talk) 05:15, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 30 § Category:People by city

A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 30 § Category:People by city on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 2 § Theatres by populated place

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Category:Works set in prison has been nominated for deletion

Category:Works set in prison has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:00, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Category:Economists by country and populated place has been nominated for merging

Category:Economists by country and populated place has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. ^SMason_Garrison 05:04, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 8 § Category:Dancers by populated place in New York (state)

A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 8 § Category:Dancers by populated place in New York (state) on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Aidan721 (talk) 05:14, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

DYK nomination of His Majesty Bunker Bean (play)

Hello! Your submission of His Majesty Bunker Bean (play) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:30, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

February music

story · music · places

I find today's birthday child particularly inspiring, by enthusiasm and determination. That was - believe it or not - a pictured DYK in 2021, without the last line though. - Can you perhaps help with sourcing and expanding Paul Plishka? One of the former editors reverted my sourcing of recordings to Salazar, without providing anything better. It smells a bit like copyvio, and has not a single review so far ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Plishka was done, on the Main page until this morning, yesterday we had Hans-Peter Lehmann, a great opera manager and director (I took the pic of the opera house in the article), and today we have Edith Mathis. Can you perhaps write a bit about her voice? I'm lacking the words. Reference Kesting (FAZ) goes into detail. The only English obit, from Deutsche Oper Berlin, is less to the point of her personal quality. Any other help with the article is also welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the memory of Brian Boulton! I have his name on my talk page whenever I remember someone who died. I have him listed, with the same image you used, in the list of people to be remembered. I have his essay linked on my user page, where it will stay until the conflict about a little tool of accessibility is settled. Please visit his talk page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:06, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Maurice Grau

On 10 February 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Maurice Grau, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Metropolitan Opera director Maurice Grau (pictured) was "important in the growth of popular musical theatre in America"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Maurice Grau. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Maurice Grau), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Endmen

I came across this term and started a draft on it. I am not sure how to handle it on Wikipedia. Should it be a link to Wiltionary? The draft I started is at Draft:Endmen. The term is used in various entries see [1]. FloridaArmy (talk) 12:27, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

@FloridaArmy "Endmen" is a term specific to the minstrel show and refers to the comic duo that would be positioned at the ends of the semi-circle construction on the minstrel show stage. They typically personified the minstrel tropes/stock characters of Jim Crow and Jim Dandy (currently lack an article on this minstrel character). See the minstrel show entries in these books: [2], [3] This might be better covered in the minstrel show page rather than as a stand alone article. Best.4meter4 (talk) 13:58, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Seems reasonable. Thanks! That minstrel show entry states that Jim Dandy is the same as Zip Coon (in the Characters section)? Zip Coon redirects to a section of the song article for Turkey in the Straw. FloridaArmy (talk) 14:56, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Article Review

Hello @4meter4 I’d request you review this page Kefas Brand it has been norminated for deletion. Kindly leave a review. According to me I think it should be kept rather but could be because I created the page. Kindly review and vote

thanks 伊丽莎白大声 (talk) 14:53, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Wilson Starbuck

On 3 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wilson Starbuck, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when Wilson Starbuck's play Sea Dogs was staged in 1939 it "contained some of the foulest language heard on Broadway" at that point in history? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wilson Starbuck. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Wilson Starbuck), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:04, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

DYK for George L. Wade

On 3 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article George L. Wade, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that blackface minstrel show performer George L. Wade was also a race car manufacturer? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George L. Wade. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, George L. Wade), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:05, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Category:American bankers by populated place has been nominated for merging

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Children's books set in art museums and galleries

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DYK for His Majesty Bunker Bean (play)

On 13 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article His Majesty Bunker Bean (play), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the American play His Majesty Bunker Bean was a national hit that had "been seen by most of the country east of the Mississippi River" before it reached Broadway? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/His Majesty Bunker Bean (play). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, His Majesty Bunker Bean (play)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 12:02, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Please stop "fixing" redirects

Please stop "fixing" redirects, e.g. Cort Theatre to James Earl Jones Theatre. See WP:NOTBROKEN: "It is almost never helpful to replace [[Redirect]] with [[Target|Redirect]]." — Chrisahn (talk) 23:14, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

@Chrisahn I wasn't fixing redirects. Cort Theatre was a disambiguation page until a few minutes ago. Someone else just moved Cort Theatre to Cort Theatre (disambiguation) a few minutes ago without telling me.4meter4 (talk) 23:15, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

I see. I'll stop reverting your edits. I think you should revert them though, unless Cort Theatre is converted back to a disambiguation page. Maybe a rollbacker can help with this annoying work. — Chrisahn (talk) 23:30, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Ya, I wish that editor had left me a message so I hadn't made so many fruitless changes in those interim minutes. I don't really see those changes as a problem though. The text still reads Cort Theatre in the articles, and it is still going to the correct page. To me there doesn't seem to be a great need to revert back to an older version given there isn't really any harm done, and there isn't a future article creation issue at play. I'm also not sure about a primary topic as there are other Cort Theatres besides the ones in Chicago and New York. It may be the dab page gets moved back at some point. Best.4meter4 (talk) 23:43, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Makes sense. Happy editing! — Chrisahn (talk) 23:49, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Edmund C. Stanton

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~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for another interesting opera person! - Today, 300 years of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1! - We sang works for (mostly) double choir by Pachelbel, Johann Christoph Bach, Kuhnau/Bach, Gounod and Rheinberger! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

I made one of your subjects my story today, on her birthday. 2010 ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:14, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Category:Publishers from Brooklyn has been nominated for splitting

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Category:Historians by nationality and populated place has been nominated for merging

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Please populate your categories. You're making a lot of Redundant category layers right now. ^SMason_Garrison 02:59, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Smasongarrison Consider assisting in building out the category structures and populating them rather than going to WP:CFD. I only created the category structure as a mirror of other occupations. It's better to build than tear down.4meter4 (talk) 03:01, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Why don't you take a look at my edit history before saying that I'm not helping. For the record, mirroring other occupations is not a reason to create categories. We only keep categories that are presently helpful for navigation. ^SMason_Garrison 03:06, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Smasongarrison I didn't say you weren't helping, only that I don't see this particular CFD nomination as helpful. You could have picked another country and started populating historian cats by location for that nation which is ultimately where we will most likely go in time.4meter4 (talk) 03:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

I'd be happy for you to make it irrelanvant by creating more categories that you populate. But it isn't helpful to have redundant categories. ^SMason_Garrison 03:16, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Smasongarrison I would given time, but I have projects I am committed to at present. At some point I probably will, at which point the category structure will have to be built out again which is frustrating. Hence why I don't see this particular CFD nomination as helpful. 4meter4 (talk) 03:20, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

I understand that you'll get to it and that the policy is frustrating. But the consensus is that the redundant categories are easy to rebuild. The norm for categorization is that categories shouldn't exist until they are actively needed. Like if you made two categories that's usually sufficient to keep it open. ^SMason_Garrison 03:26, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

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CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 March 29 § British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies upmerge

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DYK nomination of Walter Hackett

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DYK for Burlesque (play)

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April music

story · music · places

My story today is about an opera singer born OTD in 1870. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Check out my talk: for a great woman's Johannes-Passion (listen!), our music in detail, and three people who recently died and are on the main page (where she isn't). My call for collaboration has the first "no". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:02, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

My story is about music that Bach and Picander gave the world 300 years (and 19 days) ago, - listen (on the conductor's birthday) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

I finally managed to upload the pics I meant for Easter, see places. - Also finally, I managed a FAC, Easter Oratorio. I wanted that on the main page for Easter Sunday, but no, twice. You are invited to join a discussion about what "On this day" means, day or date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:07, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Novels set in Bordeaux

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 You are invited to join the discussion at Template:Did you know nominations/Easter Oratorio. Requesting for a new opinion regarding Christoph Wolff's claims, and whether or not these claims are still relevant or correct, or if they've since been debunked. This is only a request regarding that specific issue, this is not a request for a review or for a new hook proposal. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott, BWV 80

Hello 4meter4. If you do not mind, is it okay if you propose a hook or a few for this nomination? This is only a request for new hooks rather than for a review. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:31, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Could you tell me, User:Narutolovehinata5, what you find "wrong" with a cantata hook about a hymn so famous in English that its article - one of few - comes under an English title? ... the song of the Reformation? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

I'm not really an expert when it comes to hymns, but is it really that famous in English? I'm a Catholic rather than Protestant so I'm personally unfamiliar with that specific hymn and how well known it is, so perhaps 4meter4 can explain to me. Personally at least, the hook has the usual issues: it's complicated and includes too many details, and the hook doesn't seem that interesting unless you're an expert on classical music or religious hymns. Another issue is that the hook calls his hymn "famous", a term that is not used anywhere in BWV 80's article. I should make it clear: I'm not necessarily against this specific hook fact, it's more of an issue of wording/clarity/interest, and it could probably work better as a more concise and less confusing hook. I see that the article is a Good Article so maybe another angle is possible, although my own reading of the article didn't give me any ideas, hence why I was asking 4meter4 (a fellow classical music expert) for suggestions instead. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:35, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

The famousness is not mentioned in the article about the cantata because it is so famous. There is a pipe because we can't use the English hymn name, of course, because it's not based on a hymn in English, of course. Better ideas always welcome. I tried to have the hymn in German, like 95% of other German hymns. The answer was - in a nutshell - that it's too familiar in English to have it in German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

(From the article on the hymn, Reception:) "Heinrich Heine wrote in his 1834 essay Zur Geschichte der Religion und Philosophie in Deutschland, a history of emancipation in Germany beginning with the Reformation, that Ein feste Burg was the Marseillaise of the Reformation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5 In future please ping me at the DYK discussion itself when making future requests for hook proposals. I don't mind helping out but I think its better to keep conversations related to a particular DYK at that DYK.

@Gerda Arendt I personally have never heard of this particular cantata. It may well be well known in Germany, and I am certain that those steeped in Bach performance would know it but I personally have never performed it, heard it performed, or even heard a recording. I looked it up on YouTube and the music is completely new to me. I've also worked as a paid vocalist at a Lutheran church in America where we performed Bach cantatas periodically so I have some experience in the literature, and I frequently attend Bach concerts in my area (right now I am in Pennsylvania and regularly attend the monthly cantata performances by the Bach Choir of Bethlehem). Other than in the Lutheran Church, Reformation Day is ignored/unobserved in American churches. I personally wouldn't consider this a well known work familiar to most people. It's definitely obscure to people in the United States.

Bach wrote many cantatas, of which I would say only BMV 1, BMV 61, BMV 82, BMV 103, BMV 140, and BMV 159 may be recognizable to a wider group of people. Even then it's only a limited group, and many wouldn't know the name of the cantata but only recognize the melody as familiar. The average person outside Germany who isn't from a Lutheran background probably would not be able to name a single cantata by Bach. Only 2% of Americans are Lutheran so that is a pretty tiny percentage of the population. For DYK purposes I wouldn't consider any of Bach's cantatas as generally recognizable by name to the wider global public. If this were the German language wikipedia it would be a different matter, but to an English speaking audience the majority of readers will be entirely new to the Bach cantata repertoire.

In general, Americans are pretty ignorant of Bach's cantatas. They typically only get performed by Bach choral groups, early performance ensembles, and occasionally by university choruses. Some Lutheran churches may perform them if they have a strong enough music program at the church, but many Lutheran churches in America don't have the resources to do so, or have moved towards contemporary worship music and no longer perform classical works. Other Christian denominations don't often perform Bach. It really just depends on the church. I've worked as a paid church musician for over 20 years now for a variety of denominations (Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episcopal, Baptist, Roman Catholic, etc.), and only touched the Bach cantata rep in the Lutheran church. The other denominations have their own canon of liturgical music, and don't typically perform it. Some church choirs with a classical bent do perform larger masterworks a couple times a years, and Bach's music does sometimes get picked for these, but in my experience the larger oratorios are more likely to be picked for this kind of event among American church choirs. The opportunity for exposure to Bach cantatas is relatively limited, and the typical American probably has never attended a Bach cantata performance if they are not Lutheran.

I myself experienced my first Bach cantata after getting hired as a church musician at a Lutheran Church at the age of 22. I never touched the Bach cantata repertoire in college in both undergraduate and graduate studies other than a couple of solo arias I learned in voice lessons. Our university choruses did perform Bach, but they were the larger liturgical compositions like Magnificat and the St Matthew Passion. I have multiple music degrees and never studied a single Bach cantata in any of my coursework beyond maybe some music theory analysis and some excerpts in music history coursework. It would be very easy for even an educated musician in the United States to have limited familiarity with Bach cantatas as it is considered a specialized rep and the opportunity to attend cantata performances may be limited to non-existent depending on where one lives. The interest in this rep is also culturally dependent and the average American isn't typically drawn to German language liturgical music. That isn't to say that Bach concerts in America aren't well attended. They are, but they tend to focus more on the oratorio and instrumental repertoire and they draw the same limited audience; many of whom are from German American backgrounds or are classical music enthusiasts. It's a niche area of interest. My guess is that maybe only 3 in 100 Americans could give you the name of a single Bach cantata if asked to do so. All of this to say, in my opinion there are no famous Bach cantatas when addressing an American audience. I can't speak to the UK audience, but my guess is it would be similar as Bach's music is not utilized much in the Anglican Church liturgical canon.4meter4 (talk) 18:35, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

This is all interesting, and matches an essay I just received, about the Bach cantatas being foreign country for people from other languages especially because of the specific (longing-for-death) theology that dominated Leipzig services at Bach's time, while the Passions, per their drama and emotions, are able to raise some interest. I had hoped to put the essay as a reference into related articles, but instead I struggle with DYK. For this particular cantata nom, I still believe that the hymn is famous. I may add some about this to the article (which wasn't written by me but mostly by Nikkimaria). - I happen to sing in a Catholic church choir which has a program of Bach cantatas from time to time (last year Bleib bei uns, denn es will Abend werden, BWV 6, Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104, and the Ascension Oratorio) but would not do any Handel oratorio besides Messiah because of the "foreign" Baroque plots and the language barrier. But the Mass in B minor. I heard a performance of Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott, BWV 80, on Reformation Day in 2017, celebrating 500 years of the Reformation (and my sister's birthday, performed where she lives). The concert also featured a mass by Zelenka, for ecumenism ;) - The cantata is much more introverted than one might think knowing that the hymn is regarded as the battle song of the Reformation, and is a highly unusual chorale cantata, not in the format of the 1724 cycle, and possibly not even performed that year. But such aspects are not for simplistic DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the response 4meter4. I'll ping you on the nomination page and ask if you could propose something. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:46, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

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Category:American historians by populated place has been nominated for merging

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DYK for Walter Hackett

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DYK for Cort Theatre (San Francisco)

On 24 April 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cort Theatre (San Francisco), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that multiple dancers were arrested at the Capitol Theatre in San Francisco for allegedly not wearing bras during striptease numbers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cort Theatre (San Francisco). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cort Theatre (San Francisco)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Tours, France in fiction

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CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 1 § Works set in American cities

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Ballets by decade of setting

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DYK for T. D. Bancroft

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teresa Harding (2nd nomination)

Hello, following a 2024 AfD discussion that closed as "redirect", Teresa Harding has been recreated and has been renominated for a redirect. The discussion is taking place here. I am notifying all participants in the earlier discussion. Thanks! Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Baked beans

when you were removing the cold claim you accidently added the incorrect information about the CPU tires in the ingredients list on so I have fixed it for you. All the countries listed have a tendency to use those ingredients depending on the recipe Sharnadd (talk) 07:23, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Ben Hare

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story · music · places

Thank you for "him", and for having created Jadwiga Rappé! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the new article!

Thank you for the excellent work on creating the article Academy of Music (Atlantic City, New Jersey). It is an impressive piece of work, and fills a long-needed gap in American theatre history. Saratoga Sam (talk) 14:34, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

@Saratoga Sam Thanks for the kind words. I am considering creating a separate article that is much more detailed on the Apollo Theatre. There is much that could be written on the many plays, operettas, and musicals that premiered there. If you have time, I could use some help linking the many plays and musicals that premiered at the Apollo to the page. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:07, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

@4meter4 Sure, I've already started on it. Saratoga Sam (talk) 17:51, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Ralph Riggs

GTG except needs second QPQ review due to backlog mode, I believe. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:58, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

List of Star Trek: New Frontier characters

Hi, I'm trying to perform the merge in accordance with the the AfD result but I'm not seeing anything useful to merge. The sentence sourced to the interview is already included in the Mackenzie Calhoun article. Additionally, there are two ambiguous primary references. What specific content did you want to merge in the main article? Mika1h (talk) 11:20, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

I probably should have posted this originally on the Talk:Star Trek: New Frontier but the other editor who advocated for a merge (Daranios) responded at User talk:Daranios#List of Star Trek: New Frontier characters, so if you have a comment could you post it there, thanks. --Mika1h (talk) 17:04, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

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Benjamin O. Davis and Charles Young articles

You're right. I'm wrong. I did some additional research and found articles references Wilberforce University as early as 1857.Billmckern (talk) 00:50, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Billmckern It's understandable. For some reason Wilberforce College occasionally crops up in newspaper articles and books which aren't directly about the school but are about graduates or other people connected to it. Any coverage of the institution itself usually gets the name right. Errors sadly also get repeated once they get printed. Thanks for double checking.4meter4 (talk) 00:55, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Featured article review for J. K. Rowling

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June music

story · music · places

Thank you for taking care of Leontyne Price's article! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

While you are of course invited to check out my recommendations any day, today offers unusually a great writer of novels, music with light and a place with exquisite food. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:12, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Ralph Riggs

On 18 June 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ralph Riggs, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ralph Riggs made his professional stage debut when he was a baby? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ralph Riggs. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ralph Riggs), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 12:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

New message from Narutolovehinata5

 You are invited to join the discussion at Template:Did you know nominations/Klaus König. The nominator is requesting for your input in the nomination. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 21:42, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Your input at Template:Did you know nominations/Vladyslav Gorai is also appreciated, as you were pinged there and there is currently a lack of clarity regarding the subject's death that may require help regarding sourcing and article expansion. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:24, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Sue Anderson (musician)

If you see any other sources, reviews, credits, etc., please feel free to add them. Also, if you want to nominate it for DYK, the hook could be something about breaking the glass ceiling, citing Playbill.... -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:34, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

@Ssilvers I'll dig around the NYT archive and the internet archive and see if I can find some more materials. Feeling a little down about DYK at the moment after Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Prep 4 (6 July)#Broadway Jones (performer) (nom). Apparently "Ol' Man River" is too obscure of a reference point... See also Talk:Broadway Jones (performer).4meter4 (talk) 19:16, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. As for Broadway Jones, I suggest that next time an objection like this comes up, you ask for back-up at the WP:MUSICALS talk page. I would have argued that the song was significant to mention and given them the choice of a similar hook like "DYK that Jerome Kern's "Old Man River", from Show Boat was written for Broadway Jones, but he refused the role." That gives more context for its importance. I'd have argued that "Old Man River" is an important piece of Americana and musical history that has been the subject of books and inspired songs by artists as far away as India, has been covered by Crosby and Sinatra, and recordings were inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame and ranked in AFI's 100 Years...100 Songs. In any case, please don't be discouranged -- you are certainly successful more often than not. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I was worried of being accused of WP:CANVASSING. It's always difficult knowing how to approach a wikiproject for backup when in a dispute for that reason. Best.4meter4 (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

I doubt a neutrally-worded message there would be considered canvassing, as long as you simply said that there was a discussion about "a DYK hook" for Broadway Jones, didn't express a point of view, and let people visit the discussion to make up their own minds. People are often accused of canvassing, but it is like being accused of WP:OWN: you can just say "no, I was merely inviting people from a subject area Wikiproject who are likely to be knowledgeable about the subject." -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:12, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

[left]. Helm was the replacement as Music Director for Stanley Lebowsky, the original MD of Me and My Girl. -- he started out as associate. Not sure when Lebowsky left. Anderson is listed as assistant conductor from the beginning of the run, so she actually assisted Lebowsky at first. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:02, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

@Ssilvers Thanks for the clarification. I'll let you adjust as needed to the Me and My Girl article. I knocked off a quick article on Tom Helm (conductor) based on what I found in PROQUEST. I'll dig around more tomorrow.4meter4 (talk) 03:11, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Academy of Music (Atlantic City, New Jersey)

On 30 June 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Academy of Music (Atlantic City, New Jersey), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Academy of Music was the name of three different theaters located on the same property on the Atlantic City Boardwalk which were all destroyed by fires? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Academy of Music (Atlantic City, New Jersey). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Academy of Music (Atlantic City, New Jersey)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:03, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Gipsy Love

I see you want me to hold off. OK. I'll step away for a couple of hours. You should not keep repeating premiere and original. Saying it once is more than adequate. Premere is an overused marketing/newspaper word to try to get readers to read the story/ad. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:23, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

@Ssilvers I'll leave it to you to trim anything you perceive as extraneous or not needed. I trust your editorial eye. I am going to be taking a break for the next hour and then will be back to do more. Best.4meter4 (talk) 23:35, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Broadway Jones (performer)

On 1 August 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Broadway Jones (performer), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Broadway Jones refused to join the original production of the musical Show Boat due to low pay, despite the song "Ol' Man River" being created for him? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Broadway Jones (performer). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Broadway Jones (performer)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

House of Dracula music

Hi 4meter4! I've created a discussion on the material you added regarding House of Dracula and its music on its talk page (Talk:House_of_Dracula#Music_credit_in_the_infobox). Let's figure it out together! :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:25, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

Julia Hagen

Hey there 4meter4. I was just wondering if you could see if there's more information about Hagen out there that could be added to her article. Maybe sources that talk about her early life or personal life. Does such information exist out there, or does the article mention all that there is? If material exists out there, would you be okay with expanding the article with it? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:52, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5 She’s too young to have made it into reference works or academic publications. The best references are likely in recent German or Austrian newspapers and magazines. Gerda would be in the best position to read and locate those. I’m not particularly interested in writing on emerging cellists; particularly ones requiring access to German language publications that are often behind paywalls. I prefer to work on 19th and 20th century performers. The few contemporary artists I do write on are ones where I know good materials exist in accessible places to me. 4meter4 (talk) 22:58, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

I see. I was asking because she was quite upset about how the nomination turned out, and I was telling her that I was open to the nomination being reopened if "hooky" information about her could be found and her article was expanded. As it stands though, given how she said she did not want to include "private" information and she respected individual privacy, that seems unfeasible at this stage. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:45, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5 I admire your diligence at DYK review. Here are a few interviews: [4], [5], [6]. Perhaps the most interesting thing that could be said in a hook is that she never studied cello with her father who is a famous cellist (see last source). She has won top prizes as a cellist at competition and has fairly significant concert career at present. It is somewhat surprising that the family gift was not passed down from father to daughter (other than genetically). Not sure how to fit that concept into a hook. Feel free to pursue this if you want, but I am going to remain uninvolved. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:38, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! Unfortunately, her father does not have an article on the English Wikipedia as of right now. Given how she would probably decline any angle that has to do with her family, or maybe anything that has not to do with Arte, it might be for the best for it to remain closed.

I do have one last question though. Is her being featured on Arte as big of a deal as Gerda says it is? I imagine most of our readers have never even heard of Arte, let know if it's important or not, but as you are in the classical music business, I was wondering what you think of Arte, Hagen performing there, or really performing there in general. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:01, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5 Her recital was filmed for television broadcast on Arte. Arte is an EU equivalent to PBS in America or the BBC Four in the UK; it's free government funded TV. Not many classical instrumentalists get a recital filmed for TV broadcast, so yes I would say it is a significant achievement. Only artists at the very top of their profession get chosen for that kind of attention. That said, readers outside of certain parts of Europe are likely unfamiliar with Arte which is broadcast (in six different languages) only in Germany, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Monaco, Austria, Tunisia, and Switzerland. On the German wikipedia it would certainly read to its audience like it is a big deal because the countries with significant German speaking populations all broadcast Arte to the public. On the English wikipedia not so much, because our readers won't have the same background knowledge. I don't think that fact works for our purposes. Best.4meter4 (talk) 14:55, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

Strang book

I read some of it, and it is appallingly written -- the equivalent of People magazine, at best. I'm not objecting to citing it, but I wouldn't go out of my way to do so. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:30, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

Ssilvers I agree. However, I have actually caught several factual errors because it had the right information (confirmed to newspaper archives) over bad content in more professionally wirtten sources that contained errata. So... It's better than nothing, and often better than what our articles are currently saying about some of these people. (some making claims that they had their stage debuts much later than when they actually started performing for example because their obituaries had poorly written career summaries containing errors). Best.4meter4 (talk) 21:40, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

Yes. Obituaries are often not the most accurate sources, as they are prepared in some haste and may not reflect thorough research and considered, objective conclusions. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:16, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

User talk page archives?

Hello, 4meter4,

I happen past your User talk page and noticed that you have almost 300 discussion threads here. Any chance I could persuade you to archive the older messages and notifications from years ago? It would make navigating this page easier, especially for editors who are using mobile devices which might crash when they try to load this page. Just a suggestion. Happy editing! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:31, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Jacques Presburg

On 19 August 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jacques Presburg, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Broadway musical composer Jacques Presburg led a popular jazz orchestra in Berlin prior to his 1943 death in Auschwitz? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jacques Presburg. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Jacques Presburg), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:03, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Miyoko Hiroyasu

Hi 4meter4, would you be so kind and do the merger? You were one of the editors who recommended merging, and I don't believe I possess the necessary skills to perform it myself. I thank you in advance for your help. Regards, MattSucci (talk) 23:28, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

@MattSucci: I took care of it.4meter4 (talk) 23:38, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. MattSucci (talk) 23:44, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Salvador Chuliá

Hey there! I was just wondering if you could take a look at the article and the person and see if anything more can be found about him in reliable sources, particularly with regards to his personal life and career. It has been nominated for DYK, but this is not a request for you to participate in the nomination, but rather if there is anything possibly usable in the article, or if not, if anything else can be said about him or can be elaborated on. As such, please respond here instead of at the nomination page. Thanks! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:04, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria da Conceição Brito

Greetings, maybe you would be so kind as to leave your thoughts at this AFD, if you have time. Regards, MattSucci (talk) 14:36, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Leontyne Price discography

On 5 September 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Leontyne Price discography, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the recordings of Leontyne Price (pictured) have been nominated for 25 Grammy Awards and won 13? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Leontyne Price discography. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Leontyne Price discography), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so so much - it's been a such a great joy of my last few years to have discovered the incredible Ms Price. No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:43, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

@No Swan So Fine You are so welcome. I myself have only dug in to her records this last year. I had watched YouTube clips of her Leonora and Aida performances previously, but hadn't delved into her recordings until a few months ago. She has brought me a lot of joy too. What a great person and what a voice! If you want to hear her talk about her life and carer this is a fantastic lengthy interview with the editor of Opera News.4meter4 (talk) 14:51, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

story · music · places

A soprano pictured on DYK, a soprano and a composer and a bassoonist on RD, and a composer with the pic of the day: a good day for classical music! - that is thanks to you because the pic of her face crowns it all. Thank you for the articles (bio and discography) and for the link to the interview. - If you follow to my story, there's a link made in memory of the other soprano. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt Thank you so much Gerda. And thank you for the copy editing and help at DYK. It is much appreciated.4meter4 (talk) 16:39, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, and good stats also ;) - I enjoy a DYK that also pictures a person together with achievements in art, - such a thing seems possible again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Can I interest you in my 100th biography to the Main page in 2025, Siegmund Nimsgern? - I debate with myself to try GA for him. Would you have a hook idea? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Hilda Clark (soprano)

On 14 September 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hilda Clark (soprano), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that operetta soprano Hilda Clark appeared in a print ad (example pictured) as the "first [Coca-Cola] ambassador"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hilda Clark (soprano). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hilda Clark (soprano)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:02, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion / AfD

Hi. Can you point me to the policy or guideline that forbids putting speedy deletion tags on articles while they are nominated for AfD? I have done this quite a few times previously and the articles have been speedily deleted; you're the first to object. And when I placed the speedy deletion tag, the AfD notice was still there, just below the speedy tag [7] Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 12:57, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

• @SunloungerFrog As long as the template doesn't make the AFD notice disappear I think its fine. Best.4meter4 (talk) 13:01, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

  Right, and it didn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lewis_Blake&direction=prev&oldid=1311693202 has the AfD notice underneath the speedy deletion notice, at least for me. It didn't disappear. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 13:04, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

I reverted my edit. Best.4meter4 (talk) 13:07, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

US Navy presence in Florida in 1812

Hi there,

Thanks for your participation with the AfD regarding a legacy fantasy article
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/New_Orleans_Squadron

The goings on at this time are worthy of being documented properly, rather than making stuff up. To this end, I've created the following article. New Orleans station (US Navy)
I had no idea that it was effectively superseded by a new facility at Pensacola.Keith H99 (talk) 18:36, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

• @Keith H99: Good work! That is so much better than what we had before. You should take it to WP:DYK.4meter4 (talk) 19:35, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

  Thanks for the tip, the article still needs improving.

  As for the other article

  Afterward, new ships were stationed at New Orleans which engaged in counter-piracy operations for over twenty years. The New Orleans Squadron was eventually merged with the Home Squadron.

  This is pure fantasy, and in my opinion, very disrespectful to those men based in Pensacola that succeeded in eradicating piracy.Keith H99 (talk) 01:29, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

New message from Narutolovehinata5

 You are invited to join the discussion at Template:Did you know nominations/Matthew Vickers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:52, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Josephine Hall

On 1 October 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Josephine Hall, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that musical theatre actress Josephine Hall (pictured) became famous for performing a song that she purposefully sang high and off-key? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Josephine Hall. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Josephine Hall), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for another unusual bio! - My story today is about a woman and her husband who played Bach's Sonatina for us (Rheingau Musik Festival, long ago) on an upright piano, and it made me cry, and I still remember. Can you believe that this was a real DYK, in 2019? - not saying what she did at age four, or how many times she played some piece, or what she did before turning to the piano ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Good news (I think): today we have an opera singer DYK that shows her as a thinking person ;) - see also video. The nomination wasn't by me, which probably helped. I didn't see her, but the Carmen production at the Bastille Opéra that she was in last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:18, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Happy birthday, Margaret Medlyn! (I found the article - not by me - when searching for someone whose birthday is today.) - I took a cat pic, presented by Rosiestep today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Sarah Fischer (soprano)

On 22 October 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sarah Fischer (soprano), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Sarah Fischer (pictured) sang excerpts from the title role in Carmen for the very first televised BBC broadcast of opera music? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sarah Fischer (soprano). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sarah Fischer (soprano)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the article! - I came to tell you that I began the cellist's article, but see that you noticed already. I pinged you to the first version, - no refs, still an external link that I hadn't checked but was no longer working ... - It's getting better, and listening and reading interviews is interesting! You are welcome to add refs. The German article knew of one recording only and described it as if he played only one of the concertos ... The Henze premiere deserves mentioning. There must be reviews. - I have now to look at the two composers with a birthday today (70) and tomorrow (100), - no edit conflicts for Richter ;) -–Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

AfD votes

Hi again! Any chance you might be willing to change your recent delete votes for Dragula contestants to redirects as an ATD? There's no point in deleting the pages altogether when the redirects serve a purpose. Thanks, --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:48, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

@Another Believer This is probably canvassing. You can discuss things with people on the AFD page, but if you go try to rally up support or opposition elsewhere, that can be considered canvassing. I would suggest deleting this. Metallurgist (talk) 19:11, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

@Metallurgist I am asking an editor to change their own vote(s) from delete to redirect, as an ATD. That's problematic? For context, my comment is related to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abhora, where 4meter4 was willing to add a comment that a redirect as an ATD was fine. By posting here, I was just asking if the same comment applied to similar bios currently being discussed at AFD. I mean no harm!, but if I've done something wrong, please accept my apologies. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:27, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

I am not an admin, so I cant make that call, but it caught my attention. You could mention your preference on the AFDs of interest, altho some closers dont like pressure campaigns. You could comment that you feel a redirect is a good ATD. Just some friendly advice while I was posting below. Metallurgist (talk) 19:32, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

@Another Believer forgot to @ you Metallurgist (talk) 19:33, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Ok! I'm still not sure what I've done wrong, but 4meter4 is welcome to remove or collapse this section, if preferred. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:43, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

@Another Believer I am not sure either. I just thought it worth warning you. ←Metallurgist (talk) 17:34, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

OK, all good! I'm not worried. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:37, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Family-owned newspapers

Since you found the sources, do you want to add them to the List article and then do an RM? If not, I will add it to my project list. Metallurgist (talk) 19:09, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Jean Bonhomme

On 4 November 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jean Bonhomme, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that tenor Jean Bonhomme played for seven years on his university's Canadian football team before becoming an international opera star? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jean Bonhomme. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Jean Bonhomme), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:03, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Nat Horne

On 14 November 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nat Horne, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that choreographer Nat Horne's father, a Baptist minister, opposed dancing, and Horne began his dance training by sneaking out of Saturday-night prayer meetings? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nat Horne. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nat Horne), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:02, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Question

Hello! I'm in the process of analyzing recent changes data, and I came across some strange technical element across all your (and a few others') edits. If you don't mind, can you tell me if you are using any scripts or gadgets that modify/augment the editing process, the skin you are using, and also if you have JavaScript disabled? Again, this is not a bad thing, just something I haven't found a way to explain yet. Thanks, Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 01:36, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

It's probably because I am editing in the original version of wikipedia. I never switched over to Beta or whatever it is called because I don't like it. Many old timers like me still edit in that old version. Best.4meter4 (talk) 01:45, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Interesting. Can you explain what you mean by It's probably because I am editing in the original version of wikipedia? Do you mean you use the Vector Legacy skin? Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 01:48, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

I have no idea. I'm not versed in techno speak. You are asking questions in an area that I'm not knowledgable in. All I know, is that the version of wikipedia I use is older because I prefer editing in that version and chose not to go with the updated format. Best.4meter4 (talk) 01:54, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

I've done some testing and this happens if you have the "Enable the editing toolbar" option unchecked. This might be a MediaWiki bug; thanks for letting me narrow down this issue. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 01:59, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

You are welcome.4meter4 (talk) 02:05, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

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story · music · places

Today I have three biographies on the main page (one soprano), in memory, miss a fourth one, nominated a fifth (a bass-baritone), that means little time for other matters. My places now include La Scala, - see music, Verdi three times, and twice in my story! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Joan Branson

A recent death, Richard Branson's wife, likely not notable in her own right though.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:35, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

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Abduhashim Ismailov

An article you created, Abduhashim Ismailov, has been nominated for deletion. I believe you should have been notified, but that does not appear to have happened. The AfD is: WP:Articles for deletion/Abduhashim Ismailov. ResonantDis_tortion 14:05, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Foresters Music Hall

On 1 December 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Foresters Music Hall, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in his early career Charlie Chaplin was booed and heckled with thrown oranges and coins until he left the stage of Foresters Music Hall? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Foresters Music Hall. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Foresters Music Hall), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Launchballer 00:03, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

New message from Narutolovehinata5

 You are invited to join the discussion at Template:Did you know nominations/Anabel Montesinos. The reviewer has raised concerns about the sourcing in the article. Since you are an expert when it comes to classical music sources, I am asking your feedback on whether or not the reviewer's notability concerns have merit, and if the Gramaphone review is sufficient to prove notability. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:00, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Bundled AFDs

Hello, 4meter4,

For the future, if you want to make a bundled nomination, follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to nominate multiple related pages for deletion. It's more complicated than a single article nomination because I don't believe you can use Twinkle to set it up. Or you can use Twinkle to set up a one article nomination and then add your other articles to that nomination.

I see a lot of incorrectly bundled nominations and the important thing to remember is that you can't just add a list of articles, there is a special format you have to use or our AFD closing tool XFDcloser, won't recognize it as a bundled nomination. It's actually not that difficult to do and once you do it once, you won't have to read the instructions again.Happy editing Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:12, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Antonie Mielke

On 4 December 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Antonie Mielke, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an on-stage incident traumatized Antonie Mielke so much that she retired from opera? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Antonie Mielke. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Antonie Mielke), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

JuniperChill (talk) 00:02, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

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New message from Narutolovehinata5

Hello, 4meter4. You have new messages at Template:Did you know nominations/Anabel Montesinos.
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Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:50, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Margaret Jane Wray

On 10 December 2025, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Margaret Jane Wray, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 05:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for providing expansion that offers insight in her work, letting us meet a great artist whose name I had not heard before. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt You are welcome. I was able to fill in coverage of her work in the United States and a bit in Canada, but unfortunately I could only fill in a few details on her work in Europe. As an opera singer she did much more work in European theaters than in the United States; especially in the 1990s and 2000s. It would require digging through French, Belgian, Italian, German, and Austrian newspapers to source much of that content which I have little access to. In America she was of course well known for performing in The Ring in Seattle and at the Met, but was otherwise mostly a performer in concerts with orchestras. I know she did several operas in Berlin, Frankfurt, and Munich for example but its just a matter of finding sources for those. Best.4meter4 (talk) 14:00, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Can't find her performances in Germany in German newspapers. Grimes2 17:26, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• @Grimes2: If it helps. Opera Base (which I've found to be 99% accurate; but wouldn't use as a source given its artist submitted) and paywalled for its archive has her with these credits which I can't confirm yet elsewhere:

• Salzburg Festival in August 1993 as Calypso/Penelope in Ulisse
• Teatro Massimo Bellini in March 1998 as Leonore, Fidelio
• Théâtre du Capitole (also called Opéra national du Capitole) in April/May 1999 as Sieglinde in Die Walküre
• Théâtre du Capitole in October 2000 as Elisabeth, Tannhäuser (Wagner)
• Berlin State Opera in February 2001 and in October 2003 as Chrysothemis in Elektra
• Austin Lyric Opera in January 2003 as Sister Helen Prejean, Dead Man Walking
• Opéra de Nice in January/February 2003 as Sieglinde in Die Walküre

I know she has more credits than these because I can see snippet views of cast lists in google books (such as for Donna Elvira). One of these also indicates she may have sung Donna Anna in Don Giovanni at Theater Basel in 1991. From snippet views it seems she was active with Opera Frankfurt periodically from 1994-1999. It's likely she was a replacement singer in productions that had already premiered with different casts because these often don't get reviewed and aren't even included in opera base many times. Best.4meter4 (talk) 17:59, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I found this which suggests she was Freia / 3rd Norn / Gutrune in a joint Ring production of Théâtre Royal de la Monnaie / Gran teatre del Liceu / Oper Frankfurt in 1991/92. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Toronto 2013 Isolde --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

She is eligible for DYK, thanks to your expansion, - up to you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Laughter for Christmas - enjoy the season! Thank you for your "card" and wishes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

DYK for J. Harry Benrimo

On 22 December 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article J. Harry Benrimo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that actor and playwright J. Harry Benrimo has been described as a "central and versatile figure in Orientalist theater"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/J. Harry Benrimo. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, J. Harry Benrimo), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the camaraderie and company. A Very Merry Christmas to you!

File:Denise Dutton, Heather Cubie, Rebecca Danicic Ayanda Charlie, Mary Annie De Burgh Burt, dorset elves, Emily Gerard, Catherine Chavula and others.png

Its Christmas... and its the end of 2025. I looked at the recent new images I'd loaded to commons and found the amazing sculptor Denise Dutton, the Scottish scientist Heather Cubie who reduced cervical cancer in Scotland and Malawi, Rebecca Danicic who is one of over 250,000 photos freely licensed by Helen Jones and her husband, South African presenter Ayanda Charlie, Mary Annie de Burgh Burt whose biog was created at December's Women in Red editathon in Edinburgh, some Dorset elves by Helen Jones, Emily Gerard who explained the Dracula idea to Bram Stoker and Dr Catherine Chavula who intends to increase the profile of Malawian women. These are ones from December. How many more will we discover in 2026? Thank you for your company. Merry Christmas to You and Every One. - Roger aka Victuallers (talk) 15:38, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

	A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!
	Have a great Christmas, and I hope 2026 brings you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals! Cheers SchroCat (talk) 21:38, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Holiday wishes and a happy new year!

	Infinite Possibilities
	Is this real life? Yes! Is this going to be forever? No! Elvis is getting ready to leave the building and 2026 is about to be born, kicking and screaming. They say nothing gold can stay, but I say, don't listen to them, stay golden all the same. Here's to a new year of infinite diversity and beautiful combinations! Viriditas (talk) 21:52, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2026!

Hello 4meter4, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2026. Happy editing, Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:23, 24 December 2025 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

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Season's Greetings

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2026!

Hello 4meter4, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2026. Happy editing, Abishe (talk) 08:09, 25 December 2025 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 08:09, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

Deaths in February 1982

Hi there! Thank you for your recent edits to the Deaths in February 1982 article. Could you please fix the red error you accidentally introduced in reference #154? Thanks and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:35, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Wishing you a happy 2026!

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Happy New Year, 4meter4!

Happy New Year!

4meter4,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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January music

story · music · places

300 years ago, a Bach cantata was born: happy new year! - Could you perhaps add sources to Ortrun Wenkel? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the soprano DYK, - such a substantial article! I don't get to opera, - too many die, three on today's main page, all three hard to expand, especially the one who died so young, - click on music. For fun, click on story and listen, - it's full of surprises. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thank you for your work on Clyde Fitch's page! Jamescanningauthor (talk) 20:49, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

Happy New Year, 4meter4!

Happy New Year!

4meter4,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Volten001 ^☎ 07:31, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

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Deaths in May 1982 to December 1983

I have add some photos on Deaths in May 1982 to December 1983 articles respectively, so you can expand content for these articles in future. ~2026-10419-8 (talk) 05:17, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Wilczek

On 8 January 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Franz Wilczek, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Franz Wilczek played a violin made of wood from a table that was handcrafted generations earlier by Native Americans? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Franz Wilczek. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Franz Wilczek), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:02, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For your excellent source analysis at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Langs de Vecht en d'oude Rijnstroom. I am going to use similar strategies in the future to present my findings/thoughts. signed, Kvinnen (talk) 05:10, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Sherry Zannoth

On 10 January 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sherry Zannoth, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Sherry Zannoth was the assistant to the director of the Mystery Writers of America when not working as an international opera star? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sherry Zannoth. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sherry Zannoth), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Eugene S. Bonelli

On 18 January 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eugene S. Bonelli, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a historian described Eugene S. Bonelli as San Francisco's "most eminent early musician" who was a "performer and instructor, with just a dash of quack doctor thrown in for good measure"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eugene S. Bonelli. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Eugene S. Bonelli), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:02, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the Toronto Star link

Hi 4meter4. Thanks for finding that Toronto Star link—it was a huge help. Star Mississippi has userfied the article to Draft:Mark Bowden (English author). I'm adding that source and the bestseller proof now; if you have a moment to look it over once I'm done, I'd value your perspective. ~2026-66062-2 (talk) 15:35, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-66062-2: Ok. Drop me a note when you are ready. I would encourage you to create a user name/page as it makes communicating easier. Make sure to create a name compliant with Wikipedia:Username policy. A hint, I would not use any self published or PR materials when building an article. Cite only sources with by by-lined journalists or academics. A brief article built from these is more likely to pass than the sort of article that was built earlier from non-independent materials. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:39, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi 4meter4, this is Mark (formerly ~2026-66062-2). I have created a permanent account as suggested.

I completely accept your advice regarding "brief and by-lined." I am going to strip the draft down significantly to focus purely on the facts supported. I will ping you once that cleanup is done. Thanks again. MarkBowdenAuthor (talk) 16:30, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

Update: I have finished the cleanup. Per your advice, I removed non-independent sources. I have integrated the Toronto Star, Adweek, and bestseller verifications. It is much shorter now and relies strictly on the factual sources. If you have a moment to glance at Draft:Mark Bowden (English author), I would appreciate your feedback. MarkBowdenAuthor (talk) 17:55, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Walter Deverell

Sorted now, I hope. I've just rejigged that bit. Let me know if there are further issues. Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 02:29, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

Barnstar notice

I have awarded you the Winnowing Fan Barnstar in recognition of your work on the backlog of unreferenced articles. Stifle (talk) 09:32, 19 February 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Burton Miller

On 25 February 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Burton Miller, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Academy Award nominee Burton Miller was the first costume designer elected to the governing board of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Burton Miller. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Burton Miller), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 12:03, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Works by Women: Opera, Theatre and Music

	The Aria for Editing Award
	Thank you for your contributions for theatrical and musical works by women! Lajmmoore (talk) 21:21, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Burt Shevelove.png

A tag has been placed on File:Burt Shevelove.png requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a non-free file from a commercial source (e.g. Associated Press, Getty Images), where the file itself is not the subject of sourced commentary. If you can explain why the file can be used under the non-free content guidelines, please add the appropriate non-free use tag and rationale.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. tjd (he) ^T/C 03:13, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Harold Orlob

On 11 March 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Harold Orlob, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Harold Orlob was not credited as a composer of the 1909 hit song "I Wonder Who's Kissing Her Now" until he sued in 1947? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Harold Orlob. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Harold Orlob), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:03, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

DYK for John Comfort Fillmore

On 12 March 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John Comfort Fillmore, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that John Comfort Fillmore perceived a "cosmic connection" between the music of Native Americans and music composed by Richard Wagner? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John Comfort Fillmore. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, John Comfort Fillmore), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 00:04, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Martin-Smith School of Music

On 15 March 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Martin-Smith School of Music, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Martin-Smith School of Music, according to one historian, was "one of the most important black musical institutions" in the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Martin-Smith School of Music. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Martin-Smith School of Music), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 12:04, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

Incredible, thank you so much. No Swan So Fine (talk) 13:27, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Sol Babitz

On 17 March 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sol Babitz, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that violinist Sol Babitz, a pioneer in historically informed performance, was twice evicted by the police from meetings of the American Musicological Society? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sol Babitz. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sol Babitz), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 00:02, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Old Uncle Ned

On 17 March 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Old Uncle Ned, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Stephen Foster's best-selling song "Old Uncle Ned" made little money for him due to the many pirated publications circulating in the marketplace? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Old Uncle Ned. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Old Uncle Ned), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 00:04, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Gwen Wakeling

On 29 March 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gwen Wakeling, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that costume designer Gwen Wakeling crafted Shirley Temple's on-screen image by working on 14 of her films? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gwen Wakeling. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Gwen Wakeling), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 00:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Alice in Wonderland (Le Gallienne and Friebus)

On 30 March 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alice in Wonderland (Le Gallienne and Friebus), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that designs for the 1932 Broadway production of Alice in Wonderland mirrored the original novel's illustrations "down to the smallest prop"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alice in Wonderland (Le Gallienne and Friebus). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Alice in Wonderland (Le Gallienne and Friebus)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

—TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:03, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for an interesting article and hook! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt You are welcome, and thank you for the kind words.4meter4 (talk) 05:18, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Muriel Wilson

On 2 April 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Muriel Wilson, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Muriel Wilson stated that her ability to sing was impaired after her skull was fractured in a car accident? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Muriel Wilson. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Muriel Wilson), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 00:02, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Gilbert Ray Hawes

On 3 April 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gilbert Ray Hawes, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that lawyer Gilbert Ray Hawes (pictured) exposed an American diplomat for bribing the president of Venezuela? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gilbert Ray Hawes. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Gilbert Ray Hawes), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:02, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Clara E. Thoms

On 3 April 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Clara E. Thoms, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Clara E. Thoms toured the United States as a concert pianist at the age of eight? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Clara E. Thoms. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Clara E. Thoms), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 12:03, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Robert N. Mullin

On 6 April 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Robert N. Mullin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that historian Robert N. Mullin, in addition to being an expert on outlaw Billy the Kid, was once a politician who was responsible for the building of El Paso Airport? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Robert N. Mullin. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Robert N. Mullin), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Works by women: artworks

	The Women in Red Red Palette Award
	Thank you for contributing to adding articles about artworks by women! Lajmmoore (talk) 18:20, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Helene Pons

On 9 April 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Helene Pons, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Tony Award–nominated costume designer Helene Pons patented the first commercial underwire bra? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Helene Pons. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Helene Pons), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:03, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK for William Rogers Chapman

On 13 April 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William Rogers Chapman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that William Rogers Chapman has been described as "the father of good music in Maine"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Rogers Chapman. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, William Rogers Chapman), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Destubathon of the Americas

You are invited to participate in the Destubathon of the Americas, a contest/editathon which will run from May 1 to May 31. The goal is to destub as many of our 475,000+ stubs for the Americas (from Alaska down to Chile) as possible. A good chance to have fun in expanding many of our old stale stubs and win up to £2000 ($2680) in Amazon vouchers for expanding stub articles. Sign up in the Contestants/participants section on the contest page if interested. Even if not interested in prizes you are still warmly welcome to participate in it as an editathon! Hopefully we can achieve something significant in the month of May together! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:36, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK for C. Mortimer Wiske

On 18 April 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article C. Mortimer Wiske, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that C. Mortimer Wiske composed one of the earliest operas to feature American life? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/C. Mortimer Wiske. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, C. Mortimer Wiske), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 00:03, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK for T. S. Denison

On 22 April 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article T. S. Denison, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a historian described the publisher T. S. Denison as synonymous with blackface minstrelsy? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/T. S. Denison. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, T. S. Denison), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:02, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK for B. Merrill Hopkinson

On 26 April 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article B. Merrill Hopkinson, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that dentist and dental medicine professor B. Merrill Hopkinson was also a singer who performed with the orchestra of the Metropolitan Opera? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/B. Merrill Hopkinson. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, B. Merrill Hopkinson), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK for William H. Rieger

On 29 April 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William H. Rieger, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that William H. Rieger (pictured), a prominent American singer in the late 19th century, turned down an offered opera career in favor of remaining a concert tenor? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William H. Rieger. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, William H. Rieger), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:02, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

Draft:Rudy Schrager

I haven't gotten very far on this composer of film scores. Happy to have help if you're interested. All the best! FloridaArmy (talk) 20:55, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Grand Opera House (Philadelphia)

On 1 May 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Grand Opera House (Philadelphia), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a brewery was responsible for commissioning Philadelphia's Grand Opera House (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Grand Opera House (Philadelphia). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Grand Opera House (Philadelphia)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:02, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Ruble Blakey

This subject was prodded. Do you think they are notable per Wikipedia standards? FloridaArmy (talk) 19:38, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Manuscript Society of New York

On 3 May 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Manuscript Society of New York, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Manuscript Society of New York provided opportunities to women composers at a time when such support was rarely found elsewhere? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Manuscript Society of New York. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Manuscript Society of New York), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Rollo Peters

On 5 May 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rollo Peters, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that actor and designer Rollo Peters helped transform a barn into a professional theater? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rollo Peters. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Rollo Peters), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Cannot reply

I cannot reply in the talk page of Barda Qaraman due to there being an error. I therefore imply that I talk in edit summaries. Yescarrot (talk) 16:07, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

@Yescarrot: There shouldn't be any reason for you not to participate at Template:Did you know nominations/Barda Qaraman which is its own page.4meter4 (talk) 16:11, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

It says this:”The "reply" link cannot be used to reply to this comment. To reply, please use the full page editor by clicking "Edit source". More information about this error.” Yescarrot (talk) 16:14, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

@Yescarrot: I'm not the best one for tech problems, but have you tried the edit tab at the top of the page? You should be able to respond without using the reply feature. 4meter4 (talk) 16:17, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Lenox Lyceum

On 8 May 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lenox Lyceum, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the U.S. Supreme Court and Grover Cleveland presided over the centennial celebration of the federal judiciary of the United States at the Lenox Lyceum (pictured) in 1890? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lenox Lyceum. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lenox Lyceum), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2026 May 13 § Category:Universities and colleges in fiction

Categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2026 May 13 § Category:Universities and colleges in fiction on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:47, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

Draft:Mississippi Days

Greetings! Thanks for all your great work. Is this song notable per Wikipedia standards? FloridaArmy (talk) 16:52, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

@FloridaArmy: I'll take a look at it next month. My time is spoken for this month in an editing contest to expand stub articles. I'm not going to work on anything new or in draft space until June. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:57, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Stanley Kimmel

On 14 May 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Stanley Kimmel, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that writer and composer Stanley Kimmel survived the sinking of SS Antilles after it was attacked by a German submarine? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Stanley Kimmel. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Stanley Kimmel), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2026 May 15 § Category:Deserts in fiction

Categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2026 May 15 § Category:Deserts in fiction on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:35, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the edits.

Thank you for editing the List of Murdered American Children for me. I appreciate it. I just wanted to say thank you personally since you did it twice already. Thank you. ButteyFelicity (talk) 00:05, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

@ButteyFelicity:. You are welcome. Happy to help anytime.4meter4 (talk) 03:43, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

Thank you again :)) ButteyFelicity (talk) 21:39, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

CS1 error on Joyce Castle

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DYK for Julius Prott

On 19 May 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Julius Prott, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that international opera star Julius Prott (pictured) was also a horticulturalist who was acclaimed for his cultivation of roses? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Julius Prott. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Julius Prott), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Cielquiparle (talk) 00:02, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Aileen Allen

On 19 May 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Aileen Allen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Olympic diver and coach Aileen Allen was also an actress in silent films? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aileen Allen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Aileen Allen), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Cielquiparle (talk) 00:02, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

CS1 error on Joyce Castle

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Julius Prott

I just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed the article. It deserved its place on the main page today. Yakikaki (talk) 18:46, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Margaret Barker (actress)

On 20 May 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Margaret Barker (actress), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Margaret Barker performed in a play with her friend Katharine Hepburn while they were students at Bryn Mawr College? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Margaret Barker (actress). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Margaret Barker (actress)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:03, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

Template:ANI-notice with missing parameter: thread

Hey, @4meter4. When your notify this discussion, please include the |thread= parameter, but optional; see Template:ANI-notice#Parameters. —KuyaMoHirowo (talk • contribs) 01:38, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

Grace Carlyle and WP:OR

Hi there. You are certainly skilled at researching sources, primary, secondary, and tertiary. However, at Grace Carlyle, you appear to have analyzed primary and secondary source, as well as absence of other sources, to conclude in your own words that "Little biographical content is known" and "It is likely...", as well as explanatory notes like "this death record is likely not for the same person", when no other reliable sources appear to state this (apologies if I am wrong). This is WP:OR. I understand that biographical details are sparse and often contradictory for many rather obscure performers, and can appreciate the urge to want to set the record straight, but I believe your analysis and your conclusions are best left out of Wikipedia until they are directly validated by reliable sources, even if true. IMDB is not a reliable source so there is no need to even mention it may be wrong. If you want to be the first to conclude in print that her her past is poorly known or Grace Carlyle was only a stage name, then Wikipedia is not the place to do so, even if it is ultimately true. Cheers, --Animalparty! (talk) 23:23, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

@Animalparty: I hear you. The main issue here is we have two different women with the same name that have been confused with each other in unreliable internet sources that are widely viewed. I had to remove a bunch of unreliable material based on IMDb that has then been repeated in self published blogs, and other places on the internet by careless writers. The reliable published record on Grace Ella Carlyle (newspaper archives) has nothing to do with the actress (indeed they were literally in different parts of the country at the same time doing different things). The published record on the actress is sparse (in terms of secondary and tertiary publications with in-depth coverage) with standard reference works on silent film actresses completely omitting her. I do think we owe it to our readers to point out the errata in some fashion. If we don't address it, then it is going to creep back into the page as well by some well meaning future editor using IMDb. I agree that I perhaps stretched beyond the scope of what wikipedia allows, but my intention was to prevent the re-introduction of errata into the article. In future this would be a better discussion on an article talk page like Talk:Grace Carlyle so that there is a record of the issue where future editors can find it. Best. 4meter4 (talk) 23:51, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Your assessment of sources and discussion of likely conflation (that I removed) could certainly go on the talk page, as well as perhaps a brief hidden comment in the article to ward off attempts to re-insert dubious material. WP:OR only applies to article content, not to talk page content in efforts to improve articles. There's also a soprano vocalist of the same name who was active in California with a group called the Philharmonic Four around 1912.[8][9]. --Animalparty! (talk) 00:25, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

DYK for René Barbera

On 29 May 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article René Barbera, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that tenor René Barbera sang a leading role in his first opera when he was eleven years old? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/René Barbera. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, René Barbera), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Arnold Korff

On 31 May 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Arnold Korff, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Arnold Korff worked as a mechanical engineer and a cowboy before becoming an actor? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Arnold Korff. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Arnold Korff), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 00:03, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Academy of Music (Cleveland)

On 1 June 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Academy of Music (Cleveland), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that John Wilkes Booth gave a thrilling performance at the Cleveland Academy of Music while bleeding heavily from an accidental sword wound? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Academy of Music (Cleveland). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Academy of Music (Cleveland)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

HurricaneZeta^C 00:03, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Destubathon Barnstar

	Destubathon Barnstar
	Much appreciate your effort in the Wikipedia:Destubathon of the Americas contest! Great job! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:16, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Nellie Breen

On 4 June 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nellie Breen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Nellie Breen (pictured) is believed to have performed the first tap dance broadcast on radio in 1922? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nellie Breen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nellie Breen), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Mariska Aldrich

On 9 June 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mariska Aldrich, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that opera singer Mariska Aldrich had a prize-winning German shepherd (pictured) who excelled in police-dog competitions? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mariska Aldrich. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mariska Aldrich), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:02, 9 June 2026 (UTC)