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Roshni (album)

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* ALT2: ... that a collaborative song between an ex-Hindi actor and Spotify Pakistan's top artist was released for an album the same year after the 2025 India–Pakistan crisis?

Created by M.Billoo2000 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

M. Billoo 19:37, 28 December 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Approved. I think hook 1 and alt 2 are the most interesting. --3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 16:45, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000 and 3family6: Couple things here: there are a few sources cited in this article that I suspect are press releases disguised as news coverage (such as this one and this one), which is unfortunately quite common in Indian-subcontinent publications. I would treat any source without a byline with a higher degree of skepticism when assessing for reliability. Also, these hooks leave a bit of a bad taste in my mouth — they're bordering on improper synthesis with the way these different facts are presented together, and bringing up the India–Pakistan conflict when the album seemingly has no relevance to it is not ideal. (please Reply to icon mention me on reply; thanks!) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:54, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
  • @TechnoSquirrel69: Hi, thank you for your feedback. I understand the definition of press release coverage, and am aware about the RSNOI policy. Just a concern for scrutiny, I assume that the press release means either totally copy-pasting word to word, or close paraphrasing by more than one news outlets, or lack of fact checking and just churnalism. But in this case, I have selected those references which I felt different from the others and did not select which I felt majorly same.
    It is true that the news outlets have copied the album description and tracklist only, which may look like a press release, but the other text inside the references I have selected is different. It is also true that I am unable to find the album's critical reception or any bylined source, otherwise the article would majorly rely on the primary source, i.e. Zafar's social media and his recent interview on Geo News program, and anyone could strike it out for being unreliable.
    I believe the RSNOI do not apply here; despite being unbylined, the references used here carry different wordings in no promotional tone except for the descriptions. Please correct me if wrong, I am willing to cooperate and rectify my mistakes.
    For the SYNTH, I accept my mistake and I am sorry for presenting like this, so striking as asked... But are all hooks falling under SYNTH? M. Billoo 18:22, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
    Thanks for going that, M.Billoo2000. I think the other two are still toeing the line of controvery by making the Hindi/Pakistani opposition, but the reference to the conflict is oblique enough that I think we can let it slide. Thanks for your willingness to be flexible! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:39, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
  • @TechnoSquirrel69: The first instance of one of the two sources you linked, footnote 11, is acceptable even if it is a press release because all it does is verify which number album Roshni is in Zafar's catalog; that's perfectly fine as a due weight statement about himself. The second source, footnote 7, similarly verifies that the premier of the single happened at an awards show. That one is only potentially an issue because I could see that being a notability statement. But it doesn't have to be. So, yes, I see what you mean about the sources being essentially press releases, but I do not agree that this is a problem.
    As for the Pakistani crisis being linked, that's a valid concern. ALT1 does not reference the conflict but I think is written more interestingly than the main hook.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 00:30, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
    Noted on the ABOUTSELF detail, thanks — I should have looked at that more closely. You stated when removing a tag on the article that "primary sources from the subject (including press releases) can be used to verify factual statements". I disagree, as does RSNOI ("Exercise caution in using such sources for factual claims"); I believe statements of fact made in Wikipedia's voice should only be sourced to secondary sources with decent editorial oversight. With that in mind, we have this source for the "In January 2026, Zafar announced ..." statement, and these sources for the sentence about the music videos. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:39, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
    TechnoSquirrel69 Primary sources can be used if they are the subject themselves (or very closely affiliated, such as the record label promoting them), or a self-published expert and the claim is not a biography of living persons claim. RSNOI would apply to notability claims, controversial statements, or if the source isn't close to the subject themselves. In this case, it's a moot point since you found secondary sources.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 19:18, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
    I wasn't highlighting those as acceptable secondary sources, those are the type of problematic RSNOI sources I was referring to. I think this conversation would benefit from other perspectives, so I'm going to request further input at WT:DYK. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:06, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
    TechnoSquirrel69 sorry, I misread.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 02:09, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
    No worries! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:58, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
The issues have to be resolved quickly as this will turn two months old on the 28th. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:01, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

M.Billoo2000, I would recommend using better sources or this nom will fail.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 15:10, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

  • @TechnoSquirrel69, 3family6, and Narutolovehinata5: Can you please specifically highlight all the references or statements, which you think are creating issue? I think I have already replied my part, and was now waiting for the comments through other forums (I am yet to receive a reply on my concerns). As per WP:DISCOGRAPHY, primary existence is enough, I still do not understand why is RSNOI a hard implementation on a music topic. And if the references I have used here are to be removed, then we will only be having the subject's social media references and one interview on a late night show. M. Billoo 17:02, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
If the only references are primary, then this album isn't notable. I'll look through the sources.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 23:16, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
Unfortunately, most of these are press-release style articles. There's a few that look reliable, but it's borderline notability at this point.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 23:22, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
  • Also, I do not think that this deadline is fair considering that the review took place after about four weeks of nomination, pulled further after more than two weeks, and here we are only 10 days ahead but with only 5 days left for TIMEOUT yet the queries are open from both sides? M. Billoo 17:07, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
    I agree that it would not be fair to time this nomination out yet given the circumstances. M.Billoo2000, I don't have the time or energy at the moment to conduct a full source review here; I would recommend looking for some of the red flags I mentioned above and seeing if you can replace sources that look like that. Regarding "I still do not understand why is RSNOI a hard implementation on a music topic", I consider these concerns applicable across all subject areas; reliability standards should not be any laxer just because of the article's topic. If the sources can't be replaced, I'm not seeing any alternative but the removal of those statements.
    I'm also marking this as second opinion needed so we can hopefully form a clearer consensus on this nomination. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:07, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
Yes please. I'm unfamiliar with Indian subcontinent sources.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 23:22, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
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