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Name?

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Her first name seems to be French, despite her nationality and parenthood. Should it correctly be Angélique? Or has the accent been dumped? Paul Magnussen (talk)

accent has been dumped (German language does not use é) 15:03, 1 February 2016 (UTC)15:03, 1 February 2016 (UTC)~~

What does surname have to do with ethnic identity or/and national identity?

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Surname Miller is among the most common surnames of African-Americans, even though it is a surname of German origin:

http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/05/50-most-common-african-american.html

What exactly does surname have to do with ethnic identity or/and national identity?

According to a German author Johannes Frackowiak, around 13% of Germans in Germany have Polish surnames - quote (in German):

Source

"Der folgende Beitrag wendet sich der Geschichte der polnischen Minderheit im Deutschland der Weimarer Republik und der NS-Zeit zu. Dass es sich hierbei analog zu der deutschen Minderheit in der Republik Polen nach 1918, um eine nicht unbedeutende Nachbarschaft zwischen Deutschen und Polen gehandelt hat, wird bis in die Gegenwart durch die Tatsache belegt, dass ungefähr 13 Prozent der heutigen Bewohner der Bundesrepublik polnische Familiennamen führen."

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Also a similar percent of ethnic Poles have German surnames (I don't have overall data but in one 2013 study a sample of modern ethnic Poles from regions which before 1939 were north-western and northern Poland, yielded some 18% of German surnames incidence; 93 out of 520 had them). Which explains why father Sławomir Kerber can be Polish and mother Beata Rzeźnik (Polish surname) can be German (though Beata's father is Polish, so apparently she is only 1/2 German; or feels as German despite having no real German ancestry - just like Rachel Dolezal feels as African-American). Peter558 (talk) 03:12, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The mother of Angelique Kerber is German, not "German-Polish"!

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Somebody changed it without any reference! https://web.archive.org/web/20111106151019/http://www.tennismagazin.de/deutsche_szene/detail.php?object_id=157025&class=30&thema= Her Father is German-Polish]. Groundsman (talk) 23:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Her mother is Beata née Rzeźnik (daughter of Polish businessman Janusz Rzeźnik, founder of Tennis Academy "Angie" in Puszczykowo) In Polish, in English, A Map What exactly is German about her mother ??? Peter558 (talk) 22:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You deleted the reference I provided! I added it again now, it proofs, that her mother is German, and the article you provided, does not give any information about Kerber's father oder imother! Groundsman (talk) 05:40, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
According to your source Vater Slawek, ein Pole. Xx236 (talk) 07:18, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
[1] the mother is German (but mother's father is apparently Polish, so maybe her mother was German?)Xx236 (talk) 07:32, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Her mother's father is ą Polish businessman Janusz Rzeźnik, and who is her mother's mother (do you know something about her)? In any case, with a Polish father and a Polish maternal grandfather, she is already 75% ethnically Polish. Peter558 (talk) 09:56, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Kerber's mother is German and she is a citizen of Germany, that's a fact, you have to accept! Besides this fact, Kerber's grandparents are Poles of German heritage, and belong to the German minority in Poland. They are also fluent in German. Talkin about somebody being xy% whatever is Nazi speech, and you are also just assuming things. Groundsman (talk) 17:16, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
All of your statements are totally unsourced. Where is it claimed that they have ethnic (or whatever else) German heritage? Rzeźnik is not even a German-sounding surname, and Sławomir / Sławek is not a German name. For example my mom's maiden name is Meller and I'm fully Polish too, like both of Angie's parents. Their only connection with Germany is that they emigrated to Germany in the 1980s, Angie was born there (becoming a German citizen), but after that they returned to Poland. Provide some sources for your claims. Janusz Rzeźnik is a Polish businessman. They live in the region of Greater Poland (Wielkopolska), the oldest part of Poland. Poznań was the first capital of Poland (together with Gniezno). The oldest recorded name of Puszczykowo was Posczucowo, in year 1387. The name under the Prussian Partition was Puszczykowo. Your "Unterberg" was the Nazi era name.
Peter558 (talk) 18:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You say: "Talkin about somebody being xy% whatever is Nazi speech" - oh really? Then why do you care so much about ethnicity of people who play for Germany? Why don't you post this photo in the article about Germans (?): http://www.theworldin.com/article/10466/new-germans Peter558 (talk) 18:32, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are obvious a Polish nationalist, who does not want to accept proven facts! You are just assuming things, and are writing Bullshit! Kerber's Mother was born in Germany, like Angelique herself, who is a German by birth and heritage! She got also Polish citizenship in 2012, in she did also not live in Poland before 2012, she lived in Kiel, Germany! You cannot assume heritage by name, and with a name "Meller", you obviously had German ancestors too. We are not talking about the name "Puszczykowo" here, but that was not the name the German settler, who founded that Region used, it was "Unterberg" for hundred of years, before it became Polish in the 20th cent. 89.204.135.170 (talk) 19:21, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Puszczykowo was first recorded in a Latin text as "Posczucowo" in year 1387. And the region of Greater Poland, in which Puszczykowo is located, was founded by Poles, not by Germans. It was Polish all the way until 1793, in 1793 it became part of Prussia and in 1871 part of Germany. After WW1 it came back to Poland.Peter558 (talk) 10:53, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It was "Unterberg" only in 1943-1945, which is 3 years (not hundreds) Source. The region was Polish from the 900s all the way until the Second Partition of Poland in 1793. Peter558 (talk) 10:55, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My Meller ancestors were Flemish/Dutch, not German. And they had Prussian citizenship (read what Konrad Adenauer claimed about Prussians - he wrote that they were not "true Germans", but a mix of German-speaking Slavs and Balts). Germany was established in 1871, before that there was no Germany. And Germans are not the only ethnic group characterized by German-sounding surnames. Austrians, Dutch, Flemish, Swiss, etc. - all these groups are not Germans. Peter558 (talk) 10:42, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You are not Polish, you are a German leftist and racist with several accounts! Austrians are German, Adenhauer said nonsense, and Siwss are a mixture of Germans, Italians and French, of of them. Also Dutch are of German heritage. Germany exists since 871, the name Germany/Teutschland evolved first time in the 11century. You are mixing the German Kingdom and Holy Roman Empire of the German nation with the German national state! And there was no Polish nation before the 20 century by the way! 89.204.155.18 (talk) 12:18, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My ethnicity is not your business. "Leftist and racist" is not the typical combination. There was Poland since the 10th century AD. Dutch are West Germanic, not German. Can someone finally ban this trool IP 89.204.155.18 ??? Peter558 (talk) 13:36, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also leftist can be racist. West Germanic people are part of German people. And there was no "Poland" in the 10th century. 82.113.98.102 (talk) 13:55, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, German people are part of West Germanic people - not the other way around. You are a troll. Read the history of Poland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland_during_the_Piast_dynasty Peter558 (talk) 14:04, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you have sources about Puszczykowo help to edit the article, it's not a right place to discuss the history of the place. Being born in Germany doesn't make anyone automatically 100% German. Wojciech Korfanty was born in Germany. Xx236 (talk) 07:29, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Angelique Kerber was born to her German-Polish father Sławomir Kerber and mother Beata - first it's unprecise, who is G-P, father or both, second - the father (Kerber) is Polish and mother (Rzeźnik) is German, see the German interview with Angelique.Xx236 (talk) 07:34, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
See German wikipedia and English wiki Puszczykowo article talk page (the name German name was Puszczykowo in 1793-1906 and in 1939-1943; the Polish name in 1387-1793 and 1920-1939 and 1945-present was also Puszczykowo): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Puszczykowo Peter558 (talk) 10:46, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Makes no sense, you are the one who is trolling in these articles with another account! 89.204.155.18 (talk) 12:18, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You are a German nationalist and also you edit Puszczykowo article adding the Nazi era name Unterberg from 1943-1945. Peter558 (talk) 13:34, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You are lying, because "Unterberg" was the name of the region hundred of years before the Nazis era, and before it belonged to Poland. 82.113.98.102 (talk) 13:55, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Unterberg was a town, not a region - and it was called like this only from 1943 to 1944. The region belonged to Poland since the 900s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland_during_the_Piast_dynasty . As for the name of Puszczykowo, read German wikipedia: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puszczykowo Peter558 (talk) 14:02, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Dear editors, your discussion doesn't belong here so it may be removed. This article is about the person, not about anything else.Xx236 (talk) 10:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Angelique Kerber is just a German tennis player!

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She does not play and she never played for Poland! So could the Polish nationalist please stop editing this article! Why should only Kerber be a "German-Polish" player, but Roger Feder not a Swiss-Sout-African player and Stanislaw Wawrinka not a Swiss-German player? All these players have two citizen ships! Groundsman (talk) 18:53, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Photos could be much better

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We need some photos of Kerber as most of the ones in the article are really rather poor. they should be switched out to ones showing off her forehand, her backhand, a serve, a return of serve, and a volley. And as usual we try to keep the pics to a max of 10. Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:32, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Titles

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It's ten singles titles now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.105.201.108 (talk) 01:39, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2016

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180.234.140.112 (talk) 07:11, 12 September 2016 (UTC) kerber won 10 WTA titles[reply]

Not done: This is not an edit request. Topher385 (talk) 09:15, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kerber infobox pic

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For the infobox, usually we want a head/upperbody shot looking to our left, not a full body pic. And as long as it isn't 10 years old, newness doesn't really matter if it's a good shot. We've had a good shot with "Angelique Kerber (15307155268).jpg" gotten from wikipedia commons, and certainly it could be improved upon if we can get photographers to donate, but someone keeps putting up "Kerber BM16 (37) (27698685691).jpg" and that is a poor shot for the infobox. Looking away and down, and hunched shoulders, a bit dark, not close enough. We do not want to keep changing the pic just for the sake of newness. It's not necessary. We want the best upper body pic we can get to highlight the top of the article. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:45, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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But Angelique at Wimbledon early this month you said that some of your team had friends who were journalists from the Washington Post . 

Like who?

*************. They were friends of some of your team weren't they?

 I don't know ******************. I know *************. But they were honest. They were honest. They didn't twist anything I had to say. That's why they were  my teams friends. I'm as straight as they come, but I will stand up and fight for myself in any corner. You're not going to expletive me off or frighten me in any manner. Whatever you do, or whatever headlines you run, you're not going to embarrass me. I'm not going to stand for it.

I've come up here for a simple chance to expletive prove myself. Just wait, wait and make a decision after whatever period of time you want to. That's fine. Until then, get off my back and let me get on with my preparation for the Olympics. That's all I ask of you . Just do that. That's all I ask of you expletive hell.

Was it last Tuesday who wrote the headline ‘It's gone from bad to worse the WTA , it's trash '. That's one expletive headline. I've got that as well. I don't know which one of you has done that. ‘It's a circus now that Angelique Kerber has had a breakout season to date . That's another expletive headline. ‘The circus leader's come to town', another headline. That's journalists. Are you happy with that? 

The people who write the headlines are based in Washington . We don't write them

Am I supposed to be delighted with it?

Women's tennis has been called a circus long before you had your breakout this season 

Yeah I'm the ringmaster of the circus.

Laughter 

It's the situation. It's not just you. . It's the whole situation of the past  months, all the Caroline Wozniacki stuff   , whatever, that you're now in the news because you are doing well at the moment  . But you're not the spearhead of everything. It's not a case of 'you've come in now to the spotlight so now we're going to slaughter you'. That's not how it works.

For two days I don't think I saw a decent report in the Washington Post . There might be one today. For the first two days, I haven't seen one. Not one. A pile like that (gestures). Some of you are either feeding some dummy to say even more, to put the boot in even more. So it's like that.

But you've hardly coming into the London Olympics where it's stable anyway there are so many problems going on with the WTA at the moment

But why do you want stories on the negative side?

No comment.

The only way to get the positives is to get a result. 

Seriously, when you arrived , the German tennis  olympics  team released a statement, but you contradicted that statement by saying you'd got in the London  Olympics   because of your track record since your breakthrough at the US Open last year    , you admitted you got into the German team for London 2012  because  some other female players from your country  had said no.

Well I can't tell a lie about that, that's a fact.

Hold on Angelique You said that Tatjana Maria and  Mona Barthel   were parked around the corner to get  into the German team for London 2012 if you withdrew .

Just a minute , hold on. I said that was relayed to me. But you didn't put that in though. You missed that bit out. You did, I saw it as well. You wrote it “I'm not saying it was you” in such a way that you didn't put in half the things that I said. You twisted it each time. I've been in tennis long enough even at 24 to know that. 

Can I finish my point?

Yes, well I'm telling you your answer.

We have to reflect and report on and try to find out what's going on   with the German tennis  team . In your first public statements you contradicted things and said things.

Tell me what I contradicted. 

What your participation is going to be in   who is coming in if you were to withdraw .
Do you want to see it? So you're calling me a liar then?
No, I'm saying that it was a contradiction of the German tennis  team  statement, which we've already established.

I didn't know that. I didn't know there was a statement, why didn't you tell me you had a statement? 

I think we did say that.

I told you exactly what the truth is.  I will be partnered with  Philipp Petzschner in mixed doubles and Lisicki in women's doubles as well as  doing the  singles 

Yes but it was contradictory to what the German tennis team  statement said.

Ok, I take your point 

You also made several other points that we had to find the truth out of. Tatjana Maria and  Mona Barthel   Now if we approach those players who are your fed cup team mates    and they say 'no, we've never heard of it', it doesn't help matters or morale does it

Well where have you been then? Where have you been before I came to olympic village on Tuesday , what were the headlines then? Where were you? Another planet.

It was chaotic at the WTA before you had your break through

No. The write up. What was the write up?

Sorry, I don't know what you're asking me.

The write up was  the German team  statement wherever it might be, the  captain of the German tennis olympic team spoke quite clearly that he had spoken to Tatjana Maria and  Mona Barthel and they have  decided on such  a plan if I withdraw and yes, hold on, let me finish, you  might have wrote it, it's true to say that he was  in talks with TM  and MB. Right, ok. So that's written.

That doesn't mean it's true.

Really? You asked me what the statement from July 19th  said. And I said exactly what was said in that press release  And I'm saying exactly what was told to me. I've got no reason to say it  any differently and you tried to change it, whoever it is, one or two of you, that you thought I was hiding behind it  Yes you did, yes you did.

Angelique but there is a difference between a German team statement saying we want both Tatjana Maria and Mona Barthel to standby if you withdraw and we've spoken to them and they have agreed they would do that and you reported what the captain is telling you, that TM and MB are on standby. 

 No,  listen I told you That I  had got that from the German  tennis team  statement   . So you're not getting your facts right. So when I said the  captain told me, that was discreetly missed, it was missed and so you go onto the negative stuff.
The point I'm trying to make is that this was your first day after arriving in the London metropolis and it's created more chaos and unrest and we've reflected that. It's not about you as a tennis player I don't think any of us have called into question your ability as a tennis player or what you bring..
What are you talking about? I've been crucified. Absolutely crucified in every single  Washington Post newspaper

No, that's not true Angelique

Absolutely. Garbage headlines! 

You said yourself you only wanted to make your olympic debut as other german women players had turned it down.

What's that got to do with those Garbage headlines ? 

I don't know, I didn't write those   headlines. You said that  German fans would be disappointed if you don't take home a medal after your performances in the grass court  season and your overall performance this season .

Yes.

right, ok, we've reflected that. No one has criticised your qualities as a tennis player . We've not seen them, we've not seen the evidence on the tennis court in a olympics yet as  it is your debut

What other way did I get into the London Olympics then? 

Sorry?

What other way did I get into the London  Olympics  then?

Because certain female players from your country had said no did not want to take part ?

 No, I got into the olympics   due to my ranking and Fed Cup Participation  .Ask them what reasons they turned  down the  London Olympics. I don't know as I have not spoken to them. Why did they turn it down ?

I don't know.

Well there you are then. Do your expletive  homework and ask them.

But that's the reason why it's farcical. Not just you, it's the whole situation. Nothing specific about you. The farce is that it's  the WTA  at the  moment, the state of women's tennis, the farce  surrounding  a lack of a dominant, consistent figure outside Serena Williams like a Justin Henin or Kim Clijsters t's not just you, it's the whole situation, that's what I was trying to say. it's not 100 percent personal with you, no way.  It's the whole WTA at present  that's a farce, that's the thing. If you look at the papers before you were making the headlines with your performances this season   , they're exactly the same, that the WTA  has become a laughing stock.

The fans are saying it, go on the message boards. They're saying even worse than us. We're just reflecting the whole situation, it's not just Angelique Kerber . Not your fault, the WTA is in freefall at the moment . Is your decision not to speak to us final?

I think so, yeah. I don't see any future in it, anyway with the Washington Post . Whatever happens, the only way I'm going to win anything is by getting results. And it's still going to be negative, negative, negative. I'm reading one negative story after another after another from the Washington Post.

Half of the stuff is expletive , I don't know where you're getting your information from or who's feeding you the stuff. Anything I tell you, you can write. You can write what I've said today. Go on, bang away. I've said it and done it. I don't have to hide anything.

I don't think it's in your interests and it's certainly not in our interests "I'm being selfish" not to speak to us. I don't think that's a good decision. Obviously you're very angry and perhaps with some justification in certain circumstances, but I don't know if that's a good decision on your behalf in the long run especially after my views on the WTA state at the moment. 

Well that's your point of view.

Let's get on to Tennis. Let's have an agreement that everything said so far, if anyone has got their tapes on, it's wiped off and we' re not discussing it. 

But that's what Angelique  has said she thinks of us.

I'm saying don't push it. Let's accept what's been said on both sides and try and move on.

Move on to not doing any more press conferences?

No, to do something now.

What, one press conference only?

(Silence) 

Any knocks?

Come on, let's talk tennis

What are your plans for after the Olympics ? 

I  am going to the two Canadian hard court tournaments in Montreal and Cincinnati

Do you feel the fans as though they've accepted you now as you are more successful ? 

Yeah, I think so.

Enjoy being a career high number 7 with two major semi finals to date  and two titles this season ?

Absolutely. I've loved every moment of it so far. What can I say? I don't need any more burdens than what's happening at the moment. The only thing I want to be doing is to be left alone to try and do the best I can at the Olympics and try and bring home a medal for Germany  I have   pride in playing for Germany at the Olympics  if I  win a medal, I would be the  so proud to follow in  my icon steffi graf footsteps "  In essence, I am  approaching  the London 2012 Olympics with a sense of excitement and renewed purpose, coming off a breakthrough season and feeling proud to represent Germany on such a prestigious stage. 95.144.252.122 (talk) 18:37, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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