User talk:Adrignola/2010/04

Editor1

You might want to check User:Editor2 as well. --Jomegat (talk) 19:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I have taken some additional actions to prevent further trouble. A wider IP block may be necessary. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 19:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Subject:Operating_systems

I see you reverted some text on this page which I agree was probably not suitable there. However, it looks like it was originally added in good faith so the previous contributor would probably appreciate some explanation. I realize you take on a lot of work, but we don't want to discourage genuine contributors unnecessarily. Best Regards, Recent Runes (talk) 20:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Indeed. I left a welcome message on the user's talk page with an explanation. I can forget the small stuff when taking a big picture view of things. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 20:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Radiation_Oncology wikibook

You recently added the status|100% tag on the main page. It now displays over portion of the title of the wikibook on top, and it doesn't look very professional. Is there a way to move the icon to the center/right of the page? Thanks. Tdvorak (talk) 22:36, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

You're not getting the updated style sheet code. You need to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes. Mozilla / Firefox / Safari: hold down Shift while clicking Reload, or press Ctrl-Shift-R (Cmd-Shift-R on Apple Mac); IE: hold Ctrl while clicking Refresh, or press Ctrl-F5; Konqueror: simply click the Reload button, or press F5; Opera users may need to completely clear their cache in Tools→Preferences. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 22:38, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Great thanks. It now shows on the right. Incidentally, I am primarily using Google Chrome as my browser; not sure if it was the Shift-reload, but it is fixed. :) Tdvorak (talk) 22:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/212.117.167.142

Clear vandalism in progress. --Panic (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Blocked for a week. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 03:28, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

WB:FB for Muggles' Guide

Since you sysop-protected WB:FB (something I think is extreme, at least bring it down to just registered users), would you please add the Muggles' Guide PDF link to the Featured books subsection? I've added it to our Goodbook template but can't get it on the main page. Thanks. -withinfocus 16:04, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

I've added that link and dropped the protection level down for you. That was a while ago that I protected it and thinking about it today, I wouldn't have done the same thing, as it's not like a template used on many different pages. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 16:08, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! -withinfocus 14:00, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Status icon template

Adrignola, the {{Status}} template is a great idea. However, to users not familiar with the idea of development stages, the icons that now appear on the main pages of each book can be confusing. For instance, the {{Status|100%}} icon looks a bit like the Windows symbol :) It would be useful to have information about the icon, such as through mouse-over captions. I've created a modified {{Status}} template on my Sandbox page at User:Brim/Sandbox/Status. This template places a mouse-over caption with the icon and goes to the Help:Development stages page when the icon is clicked on. Feel free to copy and use this template if you like it. — Brim (talk) 22:50, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Excellent! I have added these changes in. Thanks for your help. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 22:53, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Noob Admin question

Let me ask a simple question. How does one generated the closed discussion boxes at RfD, do you simply subst {{closed}} and {{end closed}}? (I ask because the two most recently added cases seem straight forward deletes per policy, so I was going to close them. And in general I should do a bit of this work aswell.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thenub314 (discuss • contribs)

Actually, I've never substituted them, though it wouldn't be a problem if you did. You can see what I did at Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/How to Use Wikibooks for My Students and on the RfD page you'll see how I transcluded that subpage on the main one. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 15:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Foundations of Education and Instructional Assessment

Hi!

I've been working with the ODU team on these foundations of education texts for a long time, and I notice that you've consolidated these books. Can you tell me what strategy you used to consolidate these texts? I'm concerned because we are still conducting research on these books, so we'd really like a means to see all editions of the book in their original form. Is this possible? Thanks for your help.

PbakerODU (talk) 17:58, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

The process was this: each edition of the texts had several submissions of the same chapter submitted by editors. Then students voted on the best one for that edition. The next edition took that best one and put it up against the new attempts by students for that next edition. The best one by rating would move on to the next edition and so on. The consolidation reflects the versions of the chapters that won out over a series of four different iterations. Additionally, I went through and applied consistent formatting to Social and Cultural Foundations of American Education (in the headings and especially the question-answer area). I have not had a chance to format the pages of Foundations of Education and Instructional Assessment at this time, so they do employ different colors and heading styles on each one. The end goal, seen in SCFAE, is a well-formatted book that has the final and best version of each chapter presented to the reader. I had the impression that Foundations and Assessment of Education, which I have not touched, was the current project ODU is working on. Even that book hasn't been edited since July 2009. The two older books linked above seemed like good candidates to clean up since they were no longer being worked on and I proposed this in January 2010 to the Wikibooks community and then followed through two months after that.

The edit histories of the chapters are still there; they have simply been merged. Let's take a look at Social and Cultural Foundations of American Education/Philosophy and Ethics/Educational Philosophies for an example. If you click the history tab, you'll see several revisions with red links. Those red links indicate the original edition and page number of the page that was merged in. On each of those lines there is a date that the revision was made. Clicking that will show you the content of the page merged in. For example, on 14 February 2010, there is a line that says moved Social and Cultural Foundations of American Education/Chapter 1 Supplemental Materials/Why are they important to education? 2 to Social and Cultural Foundations of American Education/Philosophy and Ethics/Educational Philosophies. The date on that line, to the left of my username, can be clicked. Doing so gives you this page with Gregg Mottinger's version. Back in the history, you can click the date for the revision before that and get this page with Ruth McCarthy's version. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 18:37, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Sir,

The content of that page was "yo" for a duration of approx 10 seconds. I typically refer to this as a placeholder.--Bgreeson (talk) 03:27, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

I typically refer to that as a test page with no meaningful content. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 12:38, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Did you check the time-stamp on the placeholder? --71.179.192.124 (talk) 14:22, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

It's not about the time, it's the content. Countless pages have been created by users experimenting with the ability to create pages by clicking on a red link they find in a book. A page with no meaningful content, be it a result of a test or vandalism, does meet the criteria for speedy deletion. If something is a placeholder, I would expect to see content detailing such, or an outline; certainly not "yo". Please be aware that the page can be recreated with actual content and the deletion of the page with "yo" does not preclude that. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 15:18, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Sustainable business

Hi Adrignola, I noticed that you are undoing the redirects (moves) I have been making to Sustainable Business. I think I know why - having all the sub pages out on their own makes them vulnerable to conflicts with other books, not to mention taking up page names.. but can you help me? I was moving them so the parent page name doesn't show up in the print-to-book PDF. Is there a template like "MyTitle" where I can remove the parent page? leighblackall (talk) 00:15, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help Adrignola. leighblackall (talk) 00:28, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Title Change

History of Apple Computer may need a title change since a) It doesn't cover only the computers (but also the history of the corporation) b) Apple isn't a single computer (there are various models beyond a specific line they shouldn't be considered the same "computer") c) It may relate to Apple Inc. was formally named Apple Computer, Inc. (the merged work had Apple Inc. in the title).
I'm bothering you because you by now have more experience on how book naming is done in relation to the content (and access to the tools).
The book also seems to be an orphan from contributors, and I've lost faith on posting on the general discussion area, so if you don't have a better idea, renaming it to Apple Inc. History could be the best option (since having Apple in the beginning would facilitate searches), see what you think...

PS: I've also added a TODO box on the History of Computers since some content is needlessly replicated there, the content could be be simplified there and lengthly covered on the other book with a link to it. --Panic (talk) 06:44, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

More advanced tools would only be necessary for moving all subpages at once. That was a single page so it was not hard to do. It's now at History of Apple Inc. "Apple Inc. History" doesn't sound grammatically correct or roll off the tongue well. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 12:18, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't the tools change all the references to the page ? You have to still do it manually ? --Panic (talk) 19:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes indeed. It's only being able to move multiple pages at once that admins have the ability to do over regular users. "What links here" is still a valuable tool for myself. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 21:32, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Page needs attn

Could you approve the sighted page http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Primary_Mathematics/Powers,_roots,_and_exponents please? Thanks in advance. Ntropyman (talk) 03:12, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Done. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 03:14, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Odd completion box placement.

I think this call for participation in Wikimania box changes the placement of the title but not the completion box. See for example File:Odd placement.png. Thenub314 (talk) 20:39, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

That's expected; the icon is placed absolutely, outside the normal content area. The notice at the top is placed inside the code for the page and pushes all the page's content down. The icon, however, is plastered over the interface as a hack because we are not developers with access to the PHP code to alter the interface on-demand based on the presence of a template. -- Adrignola ^{talk contribs} 20:43, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

That makes sense, good to know. Thenub314 (talk) 20:56, 30 April 2010 (UTC)