Comments on Tapestry Central: Java isn't Open-Sourcey Enough for O'Reilly

That is just rediculous. We just launched an AJAX ...

2006-04-19T00:50:00.000-07:00

That is just rediculous. We just launched an AJAX intensive massive vertical CMS platform written using tapestry. It blows away many existing website creation/management tools. I'd love to give you a demo if you are interested.

kris at dreamthis com

I had two proposals turned down, neither to do wit...

2006-04-14T01:50:00.000-07:00

I had two proposals turned down, neither to do with Java (and both to do at least peripherally with Perl, which remains their bread & butter, book-wise).

Fact is, each year the number of submitters grows. Which means the cut-off line gets pushed higher and higher.

Randy J. Ray
rjray@blackperl.com

Howard - I feel your pain; all of my OSCON proposa...

2006-04-13T08:27:00.000-07:00

Howard - I feel your pain; all of my OSCON proposals were denied as well... Clearly it has nothing to do with book sales - Foundations of Ajax has sold very well (four printings so far) but apparently I'm not compelling enough to persuade the Ajax/JS track committee. I haven't scoured the entire list but sure seems to be a lot of Rails/Ruby (to be expected I guess).

For both Tapestry and HiveMind, I know of only a t...

2006-04-13T07:38:00.000-07:00

For both Tapestry and HiveMind, I know of only a tiny slice of the market making use of the libraries. There are HiveMind installations that are not using Tapestry (SourceForge is one; they use HiveMind in their new and improved search functionality). I'm aware of others (at financial clients, who don't like plublicity).

Besides in Tapestry, who else uses HiveMind to war...

2006-04-13T07:36:00.000-07:00

Besides in Tapestry, who else uses HiveMind to warrant a presentation on it at such a prestegious conference?

Obviously one data point isn't much to condemn O'R...

2006-04-13T07:15:00.000-07:00

Obviously one data point isn't much to condemn O'Reilly with, but I've noticed a similar thing. O'Reilly has gone from being a hardcore tech publisher to being a pop tech publisher. It appears they are more interesting in promoting/championing technologies and producing mass-market tech books (hacks, head first). That doesn't make O'Reilly bad, but it does make a mark shift from hardcore geek O'Reilly of 10 years ago.

Live by the buzz, die by the buzz, dude.

2006-04-13T02:11:00.000-07:00

Live by the buzz, die by the buzz, dude.

Seems possible that it's Tapestry rather than Java...

2006-04-12T20:40:00.000-07:00

Seems possible that it's Tapestry rather than Java that's being dinged. I don't have an opinion about Tapestry but I'm guessing there will be quite a few Java talks.

This is silly. Most rejected talk proposals are b...

2006-04-12T16:03:00.000-07:00

This is silly. Most rejected talk proposals are because there are too many proposals and not enough slots, not some anti-whatever conspiracy. (Besides, if it were really about best-selling books, the conference would be half David Pogue and half Head First.)

Any chance you'll be coming to the Austin NFJS sym...

2006-04-12T15:25:00.000-07:00

Any chance you'll be coming to the Austin NFJS symposium this year? I really love these conferences but browsing the potential sessions in Austin this year left me feeling a little flat.

I would have to agree with you on this one Howard....

2006-04-12T14:27:00.000-07:00

I would have to agree with you on this one Howard.....I've noticed a definite shift from O'Reilly in their books and their articles.

Yes, if you see me at a No Fluff Just Stuff. Actua...

2006-04-12T14:14:00.000-07:00

Yes, if you see me at a No Fluff Just Stuff. Actually, I haven't written the meta-programming one yet, and now I don't have to.

Any chance we can still see the session contents y...

2006-04-12T13:52:00.000-07:00

Any chance we can still see the session contents you had planned?

could be for any reason though....anyways, i've de...

2006-04-12T13:27:00.000-07:00

could be for any reason though....anyways, i've decided i've had enough of oreilly too.....java has almost always been their #1 seller, so biting ther hand that feeds it seems...well...stupid.